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Onthebeach_1
Over 90 days ago
Straight Male, 69
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Quote by Aladdin
I'm fairly certain that valentines day will fall during the kid's half term holiday, which means I'll be with my young uns and unable to attend:

I'm sure that you won't be the only person who might have difficulty in attending owing to half-term or school holidays - ideally, we should choose a date that works for parents if we can.
How would Saturday 28th January 2012 fit into the parental calendar? It's sufficiently past Christmas that everyone should have recovered from their festive excesses.
Sounds far enough ahead to be OK with me. Other takers?
Quote by Max777
Only just seen this but must add I've been a public sector worker now for nearly 20 years and in that time I've had many chances to move to the private sector but felt for many reasons the public sector may be more stable and the pension was one of these reasons.
Some people may be interested to know some of the fact that go along with the pension debate that's going on at the moment.
1. The extra we are being asked to pay will not go into the pensions. it will go to help pay off the sorry state that we fine this country in at the moment caused by greedy public sector workers and their gold plated pensions ...........I think not.
2. the '' tax payer'' contributed over £35 billion last year towards private sector pensions in tax relief. so to everyone in the private sector that thinks we should all be in this together ........come join us.
3. working longer for public sector workers will have an impact on us all. who wants to be dragged from a burning building by a 66 year old fireman???? and how will a 66 year old binman walk the 20 or so miles a day that they do now?? a 66 year old teacher trying to control a class of 15 year olds and so on.
To end my rant this government came into power with the promise to cut the number of MPs, whom we pay for, it will be another 2 years before the report is out on that and another 1 to 2 years before they actually do cut the numbers, hey ho just before the next elections. Shame it only took them 12 months to cut thousands of public sector jobs and there are only 600 or so of them........ you do the maths.

Depending where you work in the public sector, your pension payments do not go into a pension pot now. So there will be no difference there, although I'm sure the contributions of those in funded schemes will.
I think you need to check your figures re the £35 billion you claim taxpayers contribute in tax relief. The figure is nearer £20 billion, see chart:

I believe that the current cost of public sector pensions is in excess of £30 billion. Quite some difference. Your "employer" will no doubt be paying contributions of 14% of your salary towards your pension, unless you're a civil servant then it could well be 19% of your salary.
You may be right about 66 year old firemen, not so sure about schoolteachers but why shouldn't public service "pen pushers" retire later as those in the private sector will have to?
So your assumption is that public sector workers "pen pushers" should retire later than the private sector?
It never ceases to amaze me the perception that the private sector has of the public sector, so naive.
Who do you ring when your bins are not collected, when you have an accident,when you want housing,When you get food poisoining from an dodgy restaurant, when theres a fire, or a noise nuisance,when you need an ambulance or dare i say the police, all those pen pushers!
Quote by Aladdin
For my tuppen'th :
I'd agree that an informal group of up to 30 in an appropriate pub would seem the way to go, and that the right choice of pub would not necessitate hiring a function room if the numbers aren't excessive. What most want, I believe, is just a chance for an informal drink & chat with like-minded relatively local people.
Having said that, I'd hazard that a weekday (except friday) might discourage attendance due to lateness-to-bed on days when they might need to get up early in the morning. Similarly, as Skinny has pointed out, some people might want to extend the event, and a weekday evening will presumably make this less of a likelihood, again, discouraging attendance.
For my money, I'd say a large, relatively quiet pub in Brighton on a saturday evening.
Could anyone who is reading this thread please offer their view?

As i said previously, i am happy with the concensus. but my view would be, i could do a "local" pub, weekday if it was Eastbourne area, Brighton would probably be a fri or sat. It may still be worth thinking about interested parties to meet for a quiet drink first, see if a larger arrangement would really be a goer.
Yes? No? Thoughts?
Quote by Bluefish2009
Government makes 'improved' NHS pensions offer

Looks very good to me!

well must admit if I was a nurse or doctor I would be well pee'ed off with the so called offer. there is no actual change..they are still being asked to pay more ...for longer.. and get less at the end !!!
Basically they said they will hold back the increase for a year...and then implement it !!! Do you really think this will do the trick ??????
Is that not like every service we get though, I pay more for my fuel now and get less for my money, I therefore have to work more hours to buy it.
I pay more for my electric, more for my gas and more for my council tax..... If I could afford a pension I suspect I would have to put more in that also.
i think it should also be made clear that the increase quoted are based on an annualised salary, so if you only worked part time and earned £15,000 the govt would assume a full time salary 0f £30,000 so you would still have to pay the increases.
Is anyone interested in visiting to the Andy warhol exhibition at the De la Warr Pavillion Bexhill one weekend?
If so PM me.
Thanks
Hi guys,
I dont post a lot in the forum but I reeling after last night, I guess I should have heeded the warning signs.
I was messaging a couple back and forth as they wanted to meet in central London. There were some alarm bells, namely it was the first time I'd seen a profile with a bad rep and he asked me to text my age and what I was into at the meeting time, now surely they either agree to meet you or not so I don't see why this was necessary. Anyway slightly dubious I sent one final mail asking is this meeting definitely confirmed to which they replied yes. Due to being let down before, I will normally only meet when Im given a confirmed address and time and I'll show up as agreed. However as they were getting a hotel room I gave them the benefit of the doubt.
So after making my way into London from Kent in terrible weather I text at 2130, he replied 2230, suspicious I asked for the location now and I would be there at 2230, he just replied ok. 2230 comes and goes and now there is no answer to my texts or calls. I wait till 2300 and reluctantly trudge home.
Finally at midnight still on my way home I get a text saying they had broken down on the motorway. Now as a driver myself I know these things happen but this does not make sense. If they text at 2130 saying 1 hour then they must have been on the motorway, now given the nearest motorway to central London is 45min - hour surely they would not have planned to meet in 1 hours time.
i must say, i am bemused by some of the profiles that i have read reflecting the comments above. i am sure there must be on some occasions extenuating circumstances to a no must be my naivety or something, but i have read a number of profiles that talk about men pretending to be women, men pretnding they are couples, it is quite bizzare!. Perhaps there should be a group called. I like to pretend i am going to meet you!
There's a bar hall queen
down in Charlotte town.
I'd sure like to see her
when the sun goes down.
I swear her hair
is midnight black.
And I can't wait
till I get back.
Carolina queen,
She's a walking love machine.
I'd like to make her scream,
When I bite the bullet.
Bite the bullet.
Born and raised
at the top of the South.
You know she knows
what it's all about.
Good old boys are coming
from miles around.
Wanna watch that bullet
lay 'em down.
Quote by Staggerlee_BB
When I was born it was Mothers day .... there are no other significant facts about that year

How marvellous!! Beats Chocolates and Flowers.
Perhaps a "quiet" drink at a pub's function room on a weekday evening would do, at this stage? I would definitely stick to the informal at this point, just to see what interest is there and who shows up... If there is an interested core group that would be happy to meet semi-regularly, things can snowball. Brighton being the place it is, I am sure lots of people from London etc would be interested to attend a well-organised weekend social here. But it won't be me organising that one! :shock:
So people, what do you think?
I think the informal, "quiet" drink is about the right pitch. A pub with a function room would be great, depends on mnumbers obviously.I am sure we all have thoughts on where we would prefer it to be, i would go with the concensus. We appear at present to have contingents from Hastings, Eastbourne and Brighton, from what i understand.
Thoughts?
Quote by skinny
Are there any events in East sussex going on in the coming months that would be open to single older male new to this site?

Getting known in the chatrooms and on face cam is worth lots if you wish to meet people on the site, socially or otherwise....in fact I can say in all honesty that over 90% of my "play meets" have been in response to being on cam ..... and it aint cos I look good...or have a big willy. :sad:
Haha, i am sure you look great. And as for your willy, that's not what it says on the toilet wall in the ladies loos at the Brighton Centre, so i'm told!
I find thae chat rooms a bit of a mystery!
Quote by skinny
In response, I'd be delighted to join a sussex social, as indeed I have in the past..... the thing about single guys is multiple if:
a : you cannot accomodate
b : you haven't shown your face to other members
c : you are generally unknown to other members
but good luck with it, if it happens outside of school holidays I'll almost certainly put my name down, and I'm quite a laid back kinda guy, so I fit in easily.

Point taken, always happy to send a pic, and being unknown to other members! There lies the rub, bit of a catch 22 that one.
If anyone does organise one, let me know please.
Would do organising myself but I've been advised that socials which are organised by single males tend to get cold-shouldered. Don't know if it's true but it came from a pretty reliable source.
Aladdin.[/quot
i am happy to help with organising where i can.
Quote by Dave__Notts
just to confirm there is no guarantee that the rich will always be rich :doh:

You are right.
I look at recession as a redistribution of wealth. While some lose money, others get it. For example, I have seen some big high street names bite the dust but in their place comes other companies selling the same products and making money.
Dave_Notts
Sometimes the same company in phoenix (as in 'rising from the ashes') form wink
That is very true, but quite often at the expense of all their creditors. often ensuring that many people lose their jobs, and plunging smaller hard working businesses into receivership.
That's business for ya I am afraid.
Their business model was set up as a gamble if all their eggs were in one basket.
Dave_Notts
Nope! not disputing that, however to let your company go bust surely indicates their bad business model?
I was thinking more along the lines of the the large busineses that know their going to the wall, and deliberately carry on screwiing the smaller businesses because they cannot pull out. Again "f*ck you jack, i am alright" a sad attitude to have and by all accounts now more prevelent than ever, and people wonder why society is like it is!!
I often sit alone up in a tree Waving to the ones that wave at me I think well just how stupid can they be Waving to a man up in a tree
What they don't know is I am counting them I even count the ladies and the men I put the numbers in my little book And only me can ever have a look
All I ask is a piece of mind Which I lost somewhere down amongst the mess All I want is for people to be kind And walk slower to be counted when they pass
I think well just how stupid can they be Waving to a man up in a tree
I know that I will have to stop my fun When I meet a girl who I can not count on Maybe marry her and happy we would be Not counting but a-sitting up a tree
I put the numbers in my little book And only me can ever have a look I think well just how stupid can they be Waving to a man up in a tree
Quote by GnV
just to confirm there is no guarantee that the rich will always be rich :doh:

You are right.
I look at recession as a redistribution of wealth. While some lose money, others get it. For example, I have seen some big high street names bite the dust but in their place comes other companies selling the same products and making money.
Dave_Notts
Sometimes the same company in phoenix (as in 'rising from the ashes') form wink
That is very true, but quite often at the expense of all their creditors. often ensuring that many people lose their jobs, and plunging smaller hard working businesses into receivership.
Quote by Dave__Notts
Depends on ones humour. If it needs explaining, then you didn't get it.
As for being unsympathetic to suicides...........how do the big religions look on suicide? One faith says that you will go to hell..........how is that sympathetic?
I feel pity for suicide victims but my opinion is that it is selfish. Especially selfish if they do it publically like throwing themselves in front of the train. The poor driver and passengers will be traumatised over it.
Dave_Notts

i agree that suicide can be a selfish act, for those who experience the aftermath no matter how it is acheived. i have known more than one person to have committed suicide, the sad part is how one can be driven to do it.i would assume that if you are that ill to throw yourself under a train, take pills, drive over beachy head, your not going to be thinking will i upset someone.
The question is are JC's comments funny? Well i have read them, and no, i dont think they are funny, in fact most of what he says and does is not funny, unless you call being a self opinionated, patronising twat funny! Now, i will probably be criticised for saying that, is that not funny also?
Quote by Bluefish2009
Public sector workers use pensions strike to go Christmas shopping
I would not have been so hard on people if I had known it was all for a jolly kiss
Shopping centres up and down the country were “absolutely heaving”, with up to seven per cent more visitors than usual. At the same time there were paltry turnouts at many picket lines, despite two million teachers, health workers, civil servants and other public sector employees taking part in the biggest mass strike since 1979.
Far from bringing the country to a halt, the protest over pension arrangements had little or no impact on travel across most of the country, and almost four in 10 state schools remained open in England.
While tens of thousands of striking workers took part in marches, at least as many seemed to have made a beeline for the shops. They included Tracey Hammond, 50, a teaching assistant from Essex, who used the opportunity to visit the Westfield shopping centre in Stratford, east London. She said she had voted against the strike, but decided that when her school in Hornchurch, Essex was shut by the walkout she “might as well make use of it”. She added: “I got the last Christmas pudding in Waitrose so it is worth having the day off.”

i thought it was funny that there was all the outrage by Mr Cameron, about all the disruption and inconveniece, major problems, air ports a nightmare. All done to build up the anti Striker propoganda. When it was not like that at all, it was a "damp squib" according to Mr C, methinks Mr Cameron wants it both ways.
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All very basic info
People strike they dont have to pickett
Of the schools open how many had class's shut? Ours was open my kid was in but it was one of the few class's open.
There was a huge march in Bristol, police advised avoiding the city centre.
Strikers were not the only ones at the shops. We were out and saw plenty of the hard done by had to take a day off work and loose money so must spend more money today club out with their kids .... shopping.
All rather pointless. You strike to withdraw from work thats it.
A club most would rather not have joined
Quote by MidsCouple24
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Does anyone think the term swinger is dated along with the pampass grass?
Anxiously awaiting your and others alternative titles
So am i? Its just curious to think that the term may still be usage in say another 50 years time?
The first time ever I saw your face
I thought the sun rose in your eyes
And the moon and stars were the gifts you gave
To the dark and the empty skies, my love,
To the dark and the empty skies.
Roberta Flack version.
Quote by natandh
there's nothing I hate more than nothing
nothing keeps me up at night
I toss and turn over nothing
nothing could cause a great big fight

wow obscure! Edie Brickell
Quote by Dawnie
I know I won't be self-identifying as a swinger anytime soon, no matter how deeply I get sucked into it.

Just curious, if you are being sucked into 'swinging' and I am using that term because this is a swinging site, why are you adamant that you won't be calling yourself a swinger?
Does anyone think the term swinger is dated along with the pampass grass?
Quote by r4jane
Doesn't go up till the 24th

That is so unusual, but what would happen as a child, go to bed, and the housde used to be transformed overnight! Fantastic to wake up to, lot of hard work though!
Mines up, not decorated yet and real.
Quote by pebble
Interesting to see the replies from Mids and Funlovers. I think it illustrates the point quite clearly - a lot of swingers seem to have permament arrangements or contacts they will meet repeatedly, but NSA is the name of the game and everything remains light. Emotional involvement is almost in swinging.
For sure, people that enjoy multiple/parallel relationships sometimes come to swinging tangentially - I am one of them myself. Just by chatting in the chatrooms I have come across a few that had been involved in long-term *relationship* threesomes and foursomes at some point in their life and are keen to get involved again. The shared sentiment I get from them though is that most don't appreciate the more carnal/rutting side of swinging. I can relate to that, for me so far it has been a type of compromise... eg. I would love to be taken in by a couple - but failing that I will settle for a good threesome ;)

Very interesting, i take your point in respect of the carnal/rutting aspect however I assume you would still bring others into the equation if you wanted NSA extras!
Personally, i find it a very attractive lifestyle choice, in the context that it is not a substitute for swinging, but perhaps just another facet of an individuals own and shared lifestyle.
Quote by MidsCouple24
Aye we dont produce much coal anymore eh?

That would be because Maggie showed us the reality of the coal mines at that time, the unions kept them open, the unions ensured that miners had jobs no matter how few we needed they all got employment, she showed us the result was that it cost £20 to get the coal into the sack which we then sold for £5, she thought it was better to stop subsidising the coal industry and import the coal at £3 a bag from abroad, the prices may be incorrect but that was the basic situation, coal was selling for less than it was costing to produce, mines were forced by the unions to employ more workers than needs justified.
My father was a shipbuilder in Barrow in Furness and in the same situation, Vickers were forced to employ him because he was a union member and qualified welder, he hated walking round the shipyard looking for something to do and left to live in the Midlands where the steel industry was at that time booming and welders were in top demand by such companies as TI (Tube Investments) his skills learnt in the shipyards soon rocketed him to Works Manager, the Unions though needed at one time were not only forcing the best of British Companies out of business but stopping skilled labour being utilised in other areas.
Show me a powerfull British Union and I will show you an industry we no longer have as a World leader, Steel, Potteries, Coal, Railways, Education, Car manufacture and many more where once we led the world with our skills, productivity, expertise and innovation.

i may be wrong, but what is wrong with govt subsidies to support employment, does that not go on now by subsidising foreign companies, or supporting large businesses to set up in britain etc. I do not disagree that you can import raw materilas cheaper, but do you support Chinas poor living standards and what is almost slave labour to produce cheap steel? You are criticising the shipyards for employing your father, but then saying the skills he learnt enabled him to progress to a works manager. Subsidies were not only about keeping unions members employed, as you beleive, surely it is about having high employment, and workers who contribute to society, pay taxes, create a work ethic in the young and hopefully create social cohesion. All those things were lost under thatchers Rule. No matter what you say, or what the Telegraph or the Daily Mail espouse, many of the ills of Society that we have now were bought about by her, through mass unemployment and her belief that money and greed is God! What we have now is a society reaping the costs of the second generation of people,through her policies consigned to the scrap heap of society.
Quote by Bluefish2009
Public sector workers use pensions strike to go Christmas shopping
I would not have been so hard on people if I had known it was all for a jolly kiss
Shopping centres up and down the country were “absolutely heaving”, with up to seven per cent more visitors than usual. At the same time there were paltry turnouts at many picket lines, despite two million teachers, health workers, civil servants and other public sector employees taking part in the biggest mass strike since 1979.
Far from bringing the country to a halt, the protest over pension arrangements had little or no impact on travel across most of the country, and almost four in 10 state schools remained open in England.
While tens of thousands of striking workers took part in marches, at least as many seemed to have made a beeline for the shops. They included Tracey Hammond, 50, a teaching assistant from Essex, who used the opportunity to visit the Westfield shopping centre in Stratford, east London. She said she had voted against the strike, but decided that when her school in Hornchurch, Essex was shut by the walkout she “might as well make use of it”. She added: “I got the last Christmas pudding in Waitrose so it is worth having the day off.”

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Good to see the public sector keeping private business afloat! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by Bluefish2009
Satire/joke or a step too far?


I think its a great joke, i know, lets take jeremy clarkson outside and shoot him in front of his family lol
The man has always been a total dick,as well as an arse.
I would be interested to know members views on the above.
I know throughout history this has not been uncommon amongst all levels of society. Given the propensity for 3 somes amongst members, would they consider this as a permananent arrangement?
Are there any members that live this way?