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Theladyisaminx
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Quote by Trevaunance
I didn't know Churchill fought in the front line. I thought he was tucked up at night.

Churchill was not on the front line during the Second World War. However he did fight on the front line in India, Sudan, the Boer War (where he became a PW and escaped over 300 miles back to friendly forces), and of course he also fought on the Western front during the First World War.
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Whom incidentally you said joined a war that wasn't our war, you said we went to the aide of Poland. We joined as Churchill warned Hitler prior if he went into Poland war would be declared. If we never then joined forces we might have lost that battle.

Churchill did not lead us into the War, in fact he continued to advocate preparing for war while the Government appeased Hitler. The government was led by Neville Chamberlain. It was Chamberlain that warned Hitler that Britain would ally to Poland if he invaded.
Churchill became Prime Minister eight months after Chamberlain declared war on Nazi Germany.
The only way we can learn from history is to know it correctly in the first place wink
The point I was making is that star said we went to defend the poles earlier and they should be forever grateful.
I think I am much nearer the facts than he is even being 8 months out. :wink:
Quote by starlightcouple

So first you claim that people don`t know what they are talking about because they don`t live in the areas affected and then when somebody who does live there comes along, you say they are blind !!

Did I? I live in an affected area, and so does Minx. I am not going to detail in what area she lives in, but hence to say a hugely under developed area of South London, and I am sure Minx will say it is diverse in it's culture and old knackered buildings. It is like the areas that I have already mentioned, underdeveloped and under privileged, but when someone lives there all their life it is hard for a person to see that as they know no different.
Quote by flower411
None so blind as those who will not see.

Not blind....honest.
I live in an area similar to where Minx is so I live it every day. I went to her area for the first time in around 22 years, and I saw for myself. My area is run down and a bit of a shit hole but I am open to being honest about my area and the people who live there. I do not paint this picture of flowers blooming and birds a singing, because it simply is not like that. Minx's area was never like that and certainly is nothing like that now either. Three miles one way and three miles the other way to where Mix lives is no different. Run down inner cities and nothing has changed there for fifty years.
Eyes are for seeing Star, three miles around me brand new community schools have been built on the site of old run down Victorian ones that were falling down, we have some state of the art schools now. Victorian hospitals too rebuilt. One we are fighting to keep open as you know. You and I wouldn't be able to buy a house in Peckham now. A friend of mine invested on one 10 years ago and it is now worth Where exactly did you look Star?
All the schools have had investment some from local government but many from a man from Peckham.
Ever heard of Lord Harris star? Who has been invested from his company in the education of the children of SE London?
In case you didn't know his father opened a carpet shop in Rye lane Peckham.
Quote by starlightcouple
Why the fuck should the UK give a damn about the Malians?

To help stop Islamist rebels from gaining ground on the UK's doorstep?
What a bit like Afghanistan you mean GnV? rolleyes
All those lives lost and for what? The pulling out of our troops is a face saving exercise as within 3 years I guarantee Afghanistan will be back to what it was prior to the USA and UK invasion.
Now we are being led down another useless path to nowhere. Still it is not British politicians that will be on the front line, fighting a lost cause. No they will be tucking into their roast fillet of Cornish Mullet in their susidised eateries.

I didn't know Churchill fought in the front line. I thought he was tucked up at night.
Whom incidentally you said joined a war that wasn't our war, you said we went to the aide of Poland. We joined as Churchill warned Hitler prior if he went into Poland war would be declared. If we never then joined forces we might have lost that battle.
What you don't seem to understand is in history threats have always been caused through religion extremist and dictatorship they can become a real threat. We believe education and democracy is the way forward within countries where this doesn't happen there is never a balance of fairness to the people. That is why we join forces with like minded people no matter what country they come from. You hype on about culture and language being your focus why europe shouldn't be joined.
We all choose our friends through mindset at least I do anyway.
They problem joining I believe is balance of the economy thoughout, lets not forget what has caused the problems we are in now which I believe is shielding judgement. It was caused though the banks loaning money on high risk debt. This started in America and had a rippling affect. Being Cynical maybe the Americans let that happen as they might see a joined Europe as too strong. So destroyed the wealth to cause us problems of joining or working together to find a way to join Europe.
We can carry on blaming the people that look for work if you wish, I shall just have my own views.
To find a happy medium between socialism and capitalism and to support democracy I believe there are many reasons to join Europe. It is finding a way forward for the future not wanting to stay and stagnate for our future generations that to be fair are a complete mix of all sorts. That is something I am proud of this country for we have allowed it to happen, can you really say it is bad that it has happening?
Being in South East London (where many of the immigrants first settle) all my life born in the 1960's. I have lived, went to school, work, socialise with these people. Chatting befriending many different people from different cultures has taught me we are all human at the core. We all have a heart, thought, feelings, and fight to be treated as Humans. We learn from each other. When I had children I never wanted my children bought up in a safe leafy suburb where I believe many are ignorant to what happens at grassroots level. I wanted my children to have a diverse education to work it out for themselves. Many warned me I was putting them at risk living in what is known as one of the most deprived areas in London. My children have thanked me in feeling they are rich with knowledge.
On the ground we want to work, trade, educate, and live together. Leaders cock up not people.
So Star when you ask if people live amongst what is going on, I live in the center of it all.
Funny how two people living amongst it see it all so differently. As you have said to a few here, live amongst it before making comments.
Maybe I have made an effort to befriend, Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians. I am white and English so were my parents and theirs, prior to that are Italians and French whom settled here. Nobody within those I know have sponged off the state, and most of all I know work and integrate into society.
I have never seen Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians hanging about street corners drinking and swearing. I have seen many English men do that in my time living here.
Sorry was there a point to that? :roll:
You really need to look at the wider picture. Have you heard of Plumstead at all? South East London as well, but with a very large Asian community that does not integrate. There are huge areas of the UK where integration does not exist at all. Their own shops, their own communities, and their own ways of life. It happens and to deny it does happen is propaganda by the Labour party.
I know what area you live in and I know of it's origins going back to the 60's. Were there not riots there Minx? What about New Cross or Peckham, or Stockwell. You paint such a rosy picture of your area but you have lived there too long to see what is going on around you. I only went to your area three weeks ago. I saw with my own eyes the problems that are in that area, and you make out all is fine and dandy Minx. Sorry minx those rose tinted glasses of yours certainly need no adjustments at the local opticians.
I give up.
Do you know why intergration has always been difficult?
Blame the government they house these people in pockets to control them, peckham being a prim example. You blame the people not intergrating. But you have already said who houses them.
You make me laugh star. You say one thing then blame another as many do.
Ignorance is bliss hey, as long as it doesn't affect you and yours.
Quote by starlightcouple
Why the fuck should the UK give a damn about the Malians?

To help stop Islamist rebels from gaining ground on the UK's doorstep?
What a bit like Afghanistan you mean GnV? rolleyes
All those lives lost and for what? The pulling out of our troops is a face saving exercise as within 3 years I guarantee Afghanistan will be back to what it was prior to the USA and UK invasion.
Now we are being led down another useless path to nowhere. Still it is not British politicians that will be on the front line, fighting a lost cause. No they will be tucking into their roast fillet of Cornish Mullet in their susidised eateries.

I didn't know Churchill fought in the front line. I thought he was tucked up at night.
Whom incidentally you said joined a war that wasn't our war, you said we went to the aide of Poland. We joined as Churchill warned Hitler prior if he went into Poland war would be declared. If we never then joined forces we might have lost that battle.
What you don't seem to understand is in history threats have always been caused through religion extremist and dictatorship they can become a real threat. We believe education and democracy is the way forward within countries where this doesn't happen there is never a balance of fairness to the people. That is why we join forces with like minded people no matter what country they come from. You hype on about culture and language being your focus why europe shouldn't be joined.
We all choose our friends through mindset at least I do anyway.
They problem joining I believe is balance of the economy thoughout, lets not forget what has caused the problems we are in now which I believe is shielding judgement. It was caused though the banks loaning money on high risk debt. This started in America and had a rippling affect. Being Cynical maybe the Americans let that happen as they might see a joined Europe as too strong. So destroyed the wealth to cause us problems of joining or working together to find a way to join Europe.
We can carry on blaming the people that look for work if you wish, I shall just have my own views.
To find a happy medium between socialism and capitalism and to support democracy I believe there are many reasons to join Europe. It is finding a way forward for the future not wanting to stay and stagnate for our future generations that to be fair are a complete mix of all sorts. That is something I am proud of this country for we have allowed it to happen, can you really say it is bad that it has happening?
Being in South East London (where many of the immigrants first settle) all my life born in the 1960's. I have lived, went to school, work, socialise with these people. Chatting befriending many different people from different cultures has taught me we are all human at the core. We all have a heart, thought, feelings, and fight to be treated as Humans. We learn from each other. When I had children I never wanted my children bought up in a safe leafy suburb where I believe many are ignorant to what happens at grassroots level. I wanted my children to have a diverse education to work it out for themselves. Many warned me I was putting them at risk living in what is known as one of the most deprived areas in London. My children have thanked me in feeling they are rich with knowledge.
On the ground we want to work, trade, educate, and live together. Leaders cock up not people.
So Star when you ask if people live amongst what is going on, I live in the center of it all.
Funny how two people living amongst it see it all so differently. As you have said to a few here, live amongst it before making comments.
Maybe I have made an effort to befriend, Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians. I am white and English so were my parents and theirs, prior to that are Italians and French whom settled here. Nobody within those I know have sponged off the state, and most of all I know work and integrate into society.
I have never seen Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians hanging about street corners drinking and swearing. I have seen many English men do that in my time living here.
Sorry was there a point to that? :roll:
You really need to look at the wider picture. Have you heard of Plumstead at all? South East London as well, but with a very large Asian community that does not integrate. There are huge areas of the UK where integration does not exist at all. Their own shops, their own communities, and their own ways of life. It happens and to deny it does happen is propaganda by the Labour party.
I know what area you live in and I know of it's origins going back to the 60's. Were there not riots there Minx? What about New Cross or Peckham, or Stockwell. You paint such a rosy picture of your area but you have lived there too long to see what is going on around you. I only went to your area three weeks ago. I saw with my own eyes the problems that are in that area, and you make out all is fine and dandy Minx. Sorry minx those rose tinted glasses of yours certainly need no adjustments at the local opticians.
I give up.
Also star do you mean the asian community that cook me sri lankan down a club I belong to. Ever eaten home made food. Or the west Indian men that cook jeek chicken curried goat for everyone. Ever tried that Star?
The most gentle men I have met, that don't drink swear or put down others and serve ladies first.
I even kiss and hug them and say thanks star.
We respect each others cultures. Many of which come from plumstead actually as I hold details about them.
Anything else you like to ask?
I can back what I have said by facts star not from news papers, new items or politians.
I am ashamed of people too.
Quote by starlightcouple
Why the fuck should the UK give a damn about the Malians?

To help stop Islamist rebels from gaining ground on the UK's doorstep?
What a bit like Afghanistan you mean GnV? rolleyes
All those lives lost and for what? The pulling out of our troops is a face saving exercise as within 3 years I guarantee Afghanistan will be back to what it was prior to the USA and UK invasion.
Now we are being led down another useless path to nowhere. Still it is not British politicians that will be on the front line, fighting a lost cause. No they will be tucking into their roast fillet of Cornish Mullet in their susidised eateries.

I didn't know Churchill fought in the front line. I thought he was tucked up at night.
Whom incidentally you said joined a war that wasn't our war, you said we went to the aide of Poland. We joined as Churchill warned Hitler prior if he went into Poland war would be declared. If we never then joined forces we might have lost that battle.
What you don't seem to understand is in history threats have always been caused through religion extremist and dictatorship they can become a real threat. We believe education and democracy is the way forward within countries where this doesn't happen there is never a balance of fairness to the people. That is why we join forces with like minded people no matter what country they come from. You hype on about culture and language being your focus why europe shouldn't be joined.
We all choose our friends through mindset at least I do anyway.
They problem joining I believe is balance of the economy thoughout, lets not forget what has caused the problems we are in now which I believe is shielding judgement. It was caused though the banks loaning money on high risk debt. This started in America and had a rippling affect. Being Cynical maybe the Americans let that happen as they might see a joined Europe as too strong. So destroyed the wealth to cause us problems of joining or working together to find a way to join Europe.
We can carry on blaming the people that look for work if you wish, I shall just have my own views.
To find a happy medium between socialism and capitalism and to support democracy I believe there are many reasons to join Europe. It is finding a way forward for the future not wanting to stay and stagnate for our future generations that to be fair are a complete mix of all sorts. That is something I am proud of this country for we have allowed it to happen, can you really say it is bad that it has happening?
Being in South East London (where many of the immigrants first settle) all my life born in the 1960's. I have lived, went to school, work, socialise with these people. Chatting befriending many different people from different cultures has taught me we are all human at the core. We all have a heart, thought, feelings, and fight to be treated as Humans. We learn from each other. When I had children I never wanted my children bought up in a safe leafy suburb where I believe many are ignorant to what happens at grassroots level. I wanted my children to have a diverse education to work it out for themselves. Many warned me I was putting them at risk living in what is known as one of the most deprived areas in London. My children have thanked me in feeling they are rich with knowledge.
On the ground we want to work, trade, educate, and live together. Leaders cock up not people.
So Star when you ask if people live amongst what is going on, I live in the center of it all.
Funny how two people living amongst it see it all so differently. As you have said to a few here, live amongst it before making comments.
Maybe I have made an effort to befriend, Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians. I am white and English so were my parents and theirs, prior to that are Italians and French whom settled here. Nobody within those I know have sponged off the state, and most of all I know work and integrate into society.
I have never seen Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians hanging about street corners drinking and swearing. I have seen many English men do that in my time living here.
Sorry was there a point to that? :roll:
You really need to look at the wider picture. Have you heard of Plumstead at all? South East London as well, but with a very large Asian community that does not integrate. There are huge areas of the UK where integration does not exist at all. Their own shops, their own communities, and their own ways of life. It happens and to deny it does happen is propaganda by the Labour party.
I know what area you live in and I know of it's origins going back to the 60's. Were there not riots there Minx? What about New Cross or Peckham, or Stockwell. You paint such a rosy picture of your area but you have lived there too long to see what is going on around you. I only went to your area three weeks ago. I saw with my own eyes the problems that are in that area, and you make out all is fine and dandy Minx. Sorry minx those rose tinted glasses of yours certainly need no adjustments at the local opticians.
I give up.
Having lived in Kennington from 1971- 1978 and went shopping weekly with my mum to Brixton. I also went to school in Peckham from 1974 -1979. Then worked in Peckham from 1979 - 1992. My grandparents and hubby lived in peckham and many of my friends.
I know the area a tad. Have you ever lived there star as you seem to know so much, maybe we grew up and worked together there at some stage.
I have even taken my children to the cinema in peckham, ever been there Star. In is now on the foundations of the building where I worked for years. If you know peckham that well you would be able to tell me the lay out of the high street and Brixton for that matter. Have you walked the streets there?
Do you know why the riots started star as I was amongst them working.
Do you really have any idea star????
Quote by starlightcouple
Why the fuck should the UK give a damn about the Malians?

To help stop Islamist rebels from gaining ground on the UK's doorstep?
What a bit like Afghanistan you mean GnV? rolleyes
All those lives lost and for what? The pulling out of our troops is a face saving exercise as within 3 years I guarantee Afghanistan will be back to what it was prior to the USA and UK invasion.
Now we are being led down another useless path to nowhere. Still it is not British politicians that will be on the front line, fighting a lost cause. No they will be tucking into their roast fillet of Cornish Mullet in their susidised eateries.

I didn't know Churchill fought in the front line. I thought he was tucked up at night.
Whom incidentally you said joined a war that wasn't our war, you said we went to the aide of Poland. We joined as Churchill warned Hitler prior if he went into Poland war would be declared. If we never then joined forces we might have lost that battle.
What you don't seem to understand is in history threats have always been caused through religion extremist and dictatorship they can become a real threat. We believe education and democracy is the way forward within countries where this doesn't happen there is never a balance of fairness to the people. That is why we join forces with like minded people no matter what country they come from. You hype on about culture and language being your focus why europe shouldn't be joined.
We all choose our friends through mindset at least I do anyway.
They problem joining I believe is balance of the economy thoughout, lets not forget what has caused the problems we are in now which I believe is shielding judgement. It was caused though the banks loaning money on high risk debt. This started in America and had a rippling affect. Being Cynical maybe the Americans let that happen as they might see a joined Europe as too strong. So destroyed the wealth to cause us problems of joining or working together to find a way to join Europe.
We can carry on blaming the people that look for work if you wish, I shall just have my own views.
To find a happy medium between socialism and capitalism and to support democracy I believe there are many reasons to join Europe. It is finding a way forward for the future not wanting to stay and stagnate for our future generations that to be fair are a complete mix of all sorts. That is something I am proud of this country for we have allowed it to happen, can you really say it is bad that it has happening?
Being in South East London (where many of the immigrants first settle) all my life born in the 1960's. I have lived, went to school, work, socialise with these people. Chatting befriending many different people from different cultures has taught me we are all human at the core. We all have a heart, thought, feelings, and fight to be treated as Humans. We learn from each other. When I had children I never wanted my children bought up in a safe leafy suburb where I believe many are ignorant to what happens at grassroots level. I wanted my children to have a diverse education to work it out for themselves. Many warned me I was putting them at risk living in what is known as one of the most deprived areas in London. My children have thanked me in feeling they are rich with knowledge.
On the ground we want to work, trade, educate, and live together. Leaders cock up not people.
So Star when you ask if people live amongst what is going on, I live in the center of it all.
Funny how two people living amongst it see it all so differently. As you have said to a few here, live amongst it before making comments.
Maybe I have made an effort to befriend, Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians. I am white and English so were my parents and theirs, prior to that are Italians and French whom settled here. Nobody within those I know have sponged off the state, and most of all I know work and integrate into society.
I have never seen Europeans, Asians, Chinese, West Indians hanging about street corners drinking and swearing. I have seen many English men do that in my time living here.
Quote by Lost
I have put this message on both forums just to make others aware if not all ready
I have Just been asked if I have heard about the discovery of fake condoms and just read this news item and thought others should be aware.

Luckily we haven't met for years now.
I wonder if others here know?
People look for bargains but do we always get the standard we expect?
Could sh as a site try and help warn people about these, taking into account what the site is used for?

Not sure that would be in SH's remit Mimx. lets face it bareback pregnancy rooms are not discouraged within the chatrooms and there are no visible unsafe sex warnings anywhere.

I just meant to warn people about the flood of fake ones about. Not to tell that choose unprotected sex that it is wrong. Just to put a notice up for those that want to choose safe sex to be aware fake one are about. People here might think they are safe when they are not. Wouldn't making people aware just show the site cares for the people that use it and pay their money?
Least people armed with the knowledge can be aware, doubt many would know. I never knew until someone told me and I looked it up, the fact they are training sniffer dogs to detect them at customs and a haul with a street value of 1.5 million pound has been siezed.
They are proven to leak and split surely we would want to just tell people to be aware as there are health risk and pregnancy issues at stake.
I have put this message on both forums just to make others aware if not all ready
I have Just been asked if I have heard about the discovery of fake condoms and just read this news item and thought others should be aware.

Luckily we haven't met for years now.
I wonder if others here know?
People look for bargains but do we always get the standard we expect?
Could sh as a site try and help warn people about these, taking into account what the site is used for?
I have Just been asked if I have heard about the discovery of fake condoms and just read this news item and thought others should be aware.

Luckily we haven't met for years now.
I wonder if others here know?
People look for bargains but do we always get the standard we expect?
Could sh as a site try and help warn people about these, taking into account what the site is used for?
Quote by starlightcouple

GNV it is no use trying to help educate some people.
Seems this country for some seems invincible standing alone without any support from others, you can't make people see what they don't want to see. Some want to think this country became great and won our freedom just by the English man.
I just hope some never have troubles and need others to help and support their unfairness and injustice and can fight alone. wink

By educate I suppose you mean me Minx?
Did I not say already about the Americans?? I would presume that your memory is not that bad that you have forgotten the American flag I posted? rolleyes
Poland and France fell before the first hurdle, as least Britain got around the final bend.
Star I have two questions for you.
Why did Britain get involved in the war in the first place?
What or who were the British defending?
Hot I am sorry I have somewhat hijacked this treat that wasn't my intention.
Quote by flower411
So on that basis I think that Britain was there at the end in 1945 victorious. Or is history not correct?

They didn't do it single handed.
The French Resistance, the Americans, The Poles (yes, they were there too) to name just a few....
And Poland was simply handed over to another tyrant ...... I`m sure they should be eternally grateful rolleyes
GNV it is no use trying to help educate some people.
Seems this country for some seems invincible standing alone without any support from others, you can't make people see what they don't want to see. Some want to think this country became great and won our freedom just by the English man.
I just hope some never have troubles and need others to help and support their unfairness and injustice and can fight alone. wink
I think like many fantasies, some feel comfortable in acting out, for others it would always remain a pure titillating fantasy.
Quote by flower411
The reality is that Poles along with the other European immigrants contribute more than they take which simply highlights the fact that looking to blame Jonny Foreigner is simply wrong. Little Englanders, unfortunately, have become a dumbed down species in recent years and have been bombarded with a blame culture all too visible on tv, radio, SMS and email adverts. It seems clear to me where the need to apportion blame has come from, particularly in people that seem unable to formulate an opinion based on actual research as opposed to becoming so easily hoodwinked by specific single interest propaganda.
As for the war .... Bit of a thread diversion.

I suppose it is possible that it may be in Camerons mind to supply facts about Europe and immigration from Europe and the rest of the world . But it remains to be seen whether or not the likes of the Daily Mail can be persuaded to print facts rather than just pander to prejudice.
As I said earlier in the thread some sort of test could be mandatory before people are allowed to vote. It would give people the chance to show that they have taken the time to actually consider the implications. Being unaware that, on balance, immigration is economically advantageous to the country should exclude people from having a say.
This is the point in my first post highlighting facts that I was trying to make flower which seemed to go over heads.
Most seem intent on making the vote in or out based upon the political power that runs this country who seem to all cock up the economical running of this country in one form or other and not always the people who generate the income and growth of our developed country and how we got here and from whom in the first place.
Although what do I know, I could be living in my own made up bubble being totally failing in the education system this country offered me or the media could teach me.
Hi wave
When I heard this on the news, it made me laugh. Then I thought it made some logical sense to me. The slower the thaw the slower the trickle. The only problem is there isn't any snow about here anymore. :sad:
Quote by starlightcouple

Star I see you keep referring to the polish working here, I want to ask you did you know the polish air force fought the battle of Britian with us to save this country?

To save this country Minx? I really do not mean to be rude but have you any knowledge at all of the second world war at all?

I know how the war started Star, do you know how the war was won?
Errrr yes I do Minx.

I can also find no reference of the Polish Air Force being involved in the Battle of Britain. Can you show me this please.
I added this link once star on this thread which shows you don't read all posts.

Read through it Star you might get educated and then travel to North holt and then you can pay your respects to Polish Squadron 303, the best performing squadron in the Battle of Britain.
By the end of the war there were over poles in the RAF so they can help fight for our country but not work here. I think that is double standards if you ask me.
Some of the poles here could be descends from those that served this country and the forces I believe you honor.
Quote by starlightcouple

Star I see you keep referring to the polish working here, I want to ask you did you know the polish air force fought the battle of Britian with us to save this country?

To save this country Minx? I really do not mean to be rude but have you any knowledge at all of the second world war at all?

I know how the war started Star, do you know how the war was won?
Quote by starlightcouple
Blimey if we go back far enough into our history, we may as well give these UK passports and work visas as well. loon We have all come from the same cloth so to speak if you really wanted to be silly.

That image is from Photobucket as well, I would presume that does not offend you in any way? rolleyes
As for the Poles in WW2 I think these people have helped the UK much sooner than 1939-1945, and a Ms Lumley had to use every trick in the book to get the British Government to change the rules on their ability to settle in the UK. So if you want to use the Polish as an example of a time of over 60 years ago, the Gurkas are much nearer than that.

Forgive me if I am wrong but didn't Ms Lumley fight for the rights of the Gurkas and not the polish?
Quote by Too Hot

much snipped..........
Star I see you keep referring to the polish working here, I want to ask you did you know the polish air force fought the battle of Britian with us to save this country?
Before the cotton trade came about, wasn't it the French huguenots that built part of London you know today?
Did we not pilfer from many countries to earn our Status as you often put it of Great Britain?
Do you believe we did it all yourself?
Do you not think that many of us already have european blood line?
Do you think we did everything ourselves to get where we are?
Do you not believe united we stand, divided we fall?
Saying this I believe we should be part of europe, I believe we should have migrant workers which is controlled. we have done the same, people for years have traveled to live and work in other places.
I don't believe our laws and polices should be dictated.
I am not dead against a combined currency but I can never see how that would ever work.
If we can make our own polices, Law and keep our own currency, at present I see no other reasons not to join.
I have no claim to this land only the bit my house stands on. After all I am proud to say I and my children have all sorts of bits and pieces of blood line within us including French, Italian, Greek, Irish.
I am sure if you delve back you might just find the same applies.

Very sensible post and totally correct. Just to further the Polish wartime reference. The Battle of Britain could not have been won without the Polish fighter squadrons. This is completely irrelevant to the current debate but of course but worth remembering as we approach Holocaust Day.
I just added it as a thought of how we got here, where we are and how we can move forward with all considerations taken into effect. wink
Not just political gain and media hype.
I could add more that have contributed to this country in the past but shall leave it there for now. :wink:
Quote by GnV
I am sure if you delve back you might just find the same applies.

More likely to be just a hint of German in there minx, given his hate of the French and the Poles :grin:
I wouldn't be surprised. lol
What makes me laugh is he hypes on about polish workers but doesn't complain that around poles served in the RAF by the end of the war.
Take a look this link star and read the words.
It is RAF Northolt, if you care to go and pay your respects.
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A test of an ability to hold a pencil and identify the sharp end dunno

Now your being rather silly GnV.
I think us being out of Europe will have a zero affect on our businesses who trade with other European countries. I want Britain to remain free from Europe's constant interfering in our laws, made by our own elected Government in our democracy called an election.
I am tired of allowing other Europeans entry into the UK, just by purely being a member of the European Union. Free to travel or to work but I do not see many British workers going to Poland to work. Will there be any British workers looking forward to working in Bulgaria or Romania next year I wonder? What will those countries bring to the table of the European State?
This is all leading to Germany and France in the end wanting a European super state, where either of those two countries run the show. That is what this is all alluding too in the end. The Euro was and is an absolute disaster and where are all the British politicians now who thought Britain's entry into the Euro was the single most important thing in our history? Where are all these people now, the experts themselves apparently? Luckily we did not listen to these pro Europeans who would have had us sell our souls to have been part of the Euro , and had we of been I wonder what state this once great country of ours would be in now?
No secret that for me I want Britain to be able to make it's own decisions on it's own policies without any interference from Europe. I do not want Britain to be part of any Super State run by Germany and I would suspect that when the referendum does happen, we will see that a majority of people do not want it either....even the thick ones.
Star I see you keep referring to the polish working here, I want to ask you did you know the polish air force fought the battle of Britian with us to save this country?
Before the cotton trade came about, wasn't it the French huguenots that built part of London you know today?
Did we not pilfer from many countries to earn our Status as you often put it of Great Britain?
Do you believe we did it all yourself?
Do you not think that many of us already have european blood line?
Do you think we did everything ourselves to get where we are?
Do you not believe united we stand, divided we fall?
Saying this I believe we should be part of europe, I believe we should have migrant workers which is controlled. we have done the same, people for years have traveled to live and work in other places.
I don't believe our laws and polices should be dictated.
I am not dead against a combined currency but I can never see how that would ever work.
If we can make our own polices, Law and keep our own currency, at present I see no other reasons not to join.
I have no claim to this land only the bit my house stands on. After all I am proud to say I and my children have all sorts of bits and pieces of blood line within us including French, Italian, Greek, Irish.
I am sure if you delve back you might just find the same applies.
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Regarding the picture above...
"10.3 Further to sub-clause 10.1, by submitting your contribution to the Company's websites you:
(a) Warrant that your contribution is your own original work, is not defamatory and does not infringe any law;"
I would possibly say that the picture is defamatory and whilst I would say that Mr. Blair is not inclined to pursue Symbios for damages but better safe than sorry.

It's a picture in the public domain Stevie, and is frankly no worse than the demon eyes picture used by the conservatives years ago in an election campaign.
Just to clear up a point. When I said there ought to be a law against using certain images, I was referring to the picture of Bliar himself, rather than the context of the picture with the supposedly offensive placard :lol2:
Any image of Bliar makes me physically sick.
Just to clear up my stance on this.
I have no problem with images being created by a person and them using them.
The person I believe that created it is making the statement and point which I can debate and agree with or not agree whichever the case. I would still have a level amount of respect for people that stand up and are accountable for their own actions and create an image to reflect that even if I don't agree with their view or opinion.
To debate if we believe or not Blair was a terrorist is a whole different debate.
If Star thinks that by using an image that suggests that why not start a different debate and create his own image, instead of using something that is there already. I believe this is be, to shunt blame to the creator who's image I believe he has used.
So I would like to know, if it wasn't to incite hatred why was it used?
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But, this is the non-sex aspect of the swingers, off-topic forum minx.
BTW, did you mean 'incite'?
I didn't see star's post as encouraging or stirring up violent or unlawful behaviour.

Thank you for correcting my incorrect spelling GnV.
I thought it would be unlawful to call another human a terrotist without the law deciding it.
Apologies I must be wrong.
The reason I mentioned the swinging bit was because I thought we all saw each other as humans. Which can do things that are stupid and foolish. I just never knew it was acceptable here to call people such names in a derogatory manner. I thought that only happened in a school playground not on an adults swinging site.
Again apologies for being wrong.
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There ought to be a law prohibiting the use of offensive images on the internet.
I thought this was a swingers site, not a place to insight hatred. I am no Blair fan but I found that utterly appalling to be honest.
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Well Minxy . . . .
Oh, never mind, it's really complicated and probably wouldn't make any sense, I wouldn't want to bore the forum with it . . .

I think I have worked it out.
You are really AlbertinAmsterdam
Quote by Lost
My suggestions
10 posts = What the f*ck do I know
50 posts = Still know f*ck all
100 Posts = Why am I still doing this
250 Posts = Still here you know
500 Posts = Probably got too much to say
1000 Post = Definitely got too much to say
2000 Posts = Addiction is a bad thing
4000 Posts = Damned if i'm stopping now
8000 Posts = Missed out on shags because of forum
16000 Posts = Missed out on life because of forum
32000 Posts = Who am I what am I why am I here and nurse please get me my medication
lol

That sounds more real :lol: :thumbup:
Are men not aliens?
I thought that were from mars or does that make them martians?
Are martians aliens?
I think the term "We're not hardened Swingers" generally means they have a life away from swinging and don't necessarily live, eat and breath swinging. We might all term the level differently I am guessing so best to find out from the people themselves how often and active they are.
When you realise you have said the wrong thing?
Recently I sent a email to all the members of a committee I am on, me being the only female the rest all men. I wrote "please bare with me" and never realised my mistake until I got responses back asking if my hubby would mind if they did?
I am pleased they couldn't see my blushes and that none of them know I come on this site. A few did have to mention it at the next meeting, I just said I asked hubby and he said he didn't mind lol
Have you ever had an embarassing moment?
How did you get out of it?
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I often look at user names and wonder what made you choose the name you use.
When I joined I thought for a second when registering and thought what reflects me. Although we registered as a couple hubby said he wouldn't really use the site, so I never gave much thought that he would be called Mr Minx or worse Mr Lady.
Was there much thought that went into your user name?
Did you want it to reflect something about you?

OMG !!
This has been done so many times before !!
There have been loads of threads like this ......if you want to know just use the search button rolleyes
bolt
You sod bugger off :fuckinghell::gagged:
Or better still get back here and answer the thread Mr Flower lol What kind of name is that petal?
I was an internet virgin when we decided to sign up ....
Set up the account and got asked for a username ....
I thought it was some kinda password !!!! Never knew it was the fuckin name everybody would end up calling me !!!
So here I am mr flower :roll:
:laughabove::laughabove::laughabove:
Thanks for clearing that up. kiss
Quote by flower411
I often look at user names and wonder what made you choose the name you use.
When I joined I thought for a second when registering and thought what reflects me. Although we registered as a couple hubby said he wouldn't really use the site, so I never gave much thought that he would be called Mr Minx or worse Mr Lady.
Was there much thought that went into your user name?
Did you want it to reflect something about you?

OMG !!
This has been done so many times before !!
There have been loads of threads like this ......if you want to know just use the search button rolleyes
bolt
You sod bugger off :fuckinghell::gagged:
Or better still get back here and answer the thread Mr Flower lol What kind of name is that petal?