Must have plenty of upper arm strength in order to move me up and down on top of Mars until we both reach orgasm.
We are both too sick to do it ourselves :huh:
Considering I`m physically incapable, he is physically incapable, but, apparently, given the stiffy Mars is still capable of achieving, his penis isn`t, we figured out that if he just lays there, and I lay on top, with the help of a third person, we could still actually have sex! :bounce:
Thankyou in advance for the flood of interest. :mrgreen:
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<--------- VenusI was very lucky in the sense my counseller was blind. It was much easier for me to communicate myself to someone who couldn`t see my expression at the time. What I couldn`t bear was all the ego stroking.......I`m not that easily bought! Lots of cliche approaches! We got there in the end though 
Venusxxx
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If you look up on the net about the negative side effects of Seroxat and some other ADs, you will find a large body of people in one place who have had bad experiances with the drugs and are vetting against it. Seroxat can be a particulary difficult one to have problems with. However, if you find an area on the net which has a broader brush of people taking this medication, you will also find that many more people are finding it a very useful medication. It is a medication which needs to be monitored carefully, as should all medications, and most people, if managed properly, can wean of of this drug with the minimum of problems. I once joined a support site to get a broader picture of what people experianced, and this is what Iearnt.
1. Anti-depressents are not happy pills you can pop like smarties, as some media articles would have you believe.
2. Most ADs take around 6 weeks to take effect
3. All ADs are different. A bad experiance with one will not mean that all ADs will also be bad by default.
4. Different people need different ADs, it may take a while for you to find the one which suits you.
5. You take medication for a cold, why not when your brain is unwell?
5. Some AD`s can be addictive, but if weaned off correctly, very few people have enduring problems with this when compared with the amount of people who take them overall.
6. Doctors won`t always let you know which ones can be addictive, if you want to try out the less addictive ones first then make sure you talk to your doctor about this
7. Taking AD`s is not a sign of weakness. You may have a very physical tangible chemistry inbalance happening in your brain. When it gets to that point, you cannot simply `think` your way out of it! You may as well be staring at a broken leg, willing the bones to mend by themselves!
If you had a broken leg, and needed physiotherapy to help it get stronger, noone would criticise your need to use pain-killers inorder to help you to do this. In fact, directly after an accident, noone would expect you to be able to undergo physio at all, unless you were extremally lucky. Most people would need the medication to get them to that point depending upon the scale of the injury. With the help of meds, determination, and physio, the leg will eventually get better, but it is hard to achieve this without all three. After some time the need for painkillers is reduced.
The leg is your brain, the physio is your counselling, and the determination is.......well, your determination! Sometimes people need permanant meds, or can do without counselling, but they will always need that determination. Sometimes you may feel that your determination is almost non-existant, and this will be most likely due to your brain chemistry, meds can help a great deal in sorting this out so you are in a place where you can take more control.
Venusxxx
1. Anti-depressents are not happy pills you can pop like smarties, as some media articles would have you believe.
2. Most ADs take around 6 weeks to take effect
3. All ADs are different. A bad experiance with one will not mean that all ADs will also be bad by default.
4. Different people need different ADs, it may take a while for you to find the one which suits you.
5. You take medication for a cold, why not when your brain is unwell?
5. Some AD`s can be addictive, but if weaned off correctly, very few people have enduring problems with this when compared with the amount of people who take them overall.
6. Doctors won`t always let you know which ones can be addictive, if you want to try out the less addictive ones first then make sure you talk to your doctor about this
7. Taking AD`s is not a sign of weakness. You may have a very physical tangible chemistry inbalance happening in your brain. When it gets to that point, you cannot simply `think` your way out of it! You may as well be staring at a broken leg, willing the bones to mend by themselves!
If you had a broken leg, and needed physiotherapy to help it get stronger, noone would criticise your need to use pain-killers inorder to help you to do this. In fact, directly after an accident, noone would expect you to be able to undergo physio at all, unless you were extremally lucky. Most people would need the medication to get them to that point depending upon the scale of the injury. With the help of meds, determination, and physio, the leg will eventually get better, but it is hard to achieve this without all three. After some time the need for painkillers is reduced.
The leg is your brain, the physio is your counselling, and the determination is.......well, your determination! Sometimes people need permanant meds, or can do without counselling, but they will always need that determination. Sometimes you may feel that your determination is almost non-existant, and this will be most likely due to your brain chemistry, meds can help a great deal in sorting this out so you are in a place where you can take more control.
Venusxxx
Quote by neilinleeds
we'll leave the pretty piss poor lack of counselling options there for another time! ;)
neil x x x ;)
Or to somebody else ;)
The problem here (and we will ignore piss poor doctors for now) is the lack of resources. Many people see doctors to be handing out AD`s like smarties, but in many cases they are necessary, but in too many more it will be because a doctor knows it can be at least six months before a patient has access to counselling to help pull them out of it. I wouldn`t like to conjecture where I would have been six months down the line with no support whatsoever. Of course it can be very helpful to be somewhat stablised before counselling, as it can open up a can of worms, but it is somewhat necessary if a person is to get to the root of a problem so that thier issues do not repeat themselves. Yes it can sometimes be done by acheived by introspection without the help of a counseller, but this can sometimes be worse, because a person will still be opening up the same can of worms, but will have no shoulder to support them and no badly needed outside stability (unless they have a very understanding support network elsewhere) whilst they do this. Having the awareness to be able to say, `I`ve dealt with enough for one session` is invaluable, but not always it`s not always that easy when it all too often comes back and bites you on the arse later.
I was one of the most self-aware people I knew when I started my counselling (which meant my counseller actually had to do some work, because she couldn`t just hand me the easy answers on a plate, I`d already done that bit by myself) but when we discovered the gravity of how deep-seated my behaviours were, it kicked the living shit out of me. I wouldn`t take it back for the world though, I might have carried on living like that indefinately if I hadn`t have snapped and confronted it. I had a breakdown because I am a strong enough person who on some level couldn`t accept living with a half-measure for any longer. It had nothing to do with being weak.
Venusxxx
I recently joined another site, totally different subject, where most of the members are US citizens. I had a look around, started my intro thread, and asked....
Don`t you guys ever swear?!
I was directed to an area where I could let rip if I wanted to, and started a thread entitled:
And received one reply out of the many which cracked me up
What can I say?!
Venusxxx
Don`t you guys ever swear?!
I was directed to an area where I could let rip if I wanted to, and started a thread entitled:
Fuck fuck shitty shitty wanking bollocking arse-burgers....
It`s a thread because I want one.
And received one reply out of the many which cracked me up
That was great, and you know what? It also made me smile a little (no offence) because I got such a GREAT visual picture of an ARSE BURGER!!! hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Btw, are you British by any chance? This doesn't say a lot for my country that I am guessing you could be from that post, hahaha, it's just, when I get really annoyed, I also say things like bollocking bastard shitty wanking buggering twatting arsehole knobheads. Kinda similar, no? :0)
What can I say?!
Venusxxx
Quote by neilinleeds
Isn`t there some evidence of addictive behaviour linked to the genes, eg gambling, alcoholism, drug abuse? All these can lead to depression. So many different factors.
Venusxxx
well yeah, i'd tend to agree that there's such a thing as an addictive personality, and i'd probably agree there's maybe a genetic disposition to certain addictive behaviours becoming actual addictions, so disregard my earlier comments, cos i was generalising on depressive illnesses, and it's confusing me now!
yeah for some specific illnesses i'm sure there is a physical cause.
neil x x x ;)
Sorry Neil, what I am trying to say is, that I recognise that there are possible genetic links involving Manic depression, addictive personalities, and other specific mental disorders which can all lead to depression, but I also people can succumb to depression without these factors. The latter can happen to anyone, depending upon which events it takes to break a person. Everyone has their Achille`s heel.
Venusxxx
I`d really urge the anonymous benifactor to identify himself still. I cannot think what is holding him back considering Libra`s discomfort. It is the only right thing to do. He wasn`t the one to give out her address etc, he merely received it. So I should think gratitude not anger would be his reception.
What we have here is a single mum with a child. A child who is now receiving gifts, which although I`m sure he meant with the best intention, does indicate to Libra that her kid is now part of the focus of a guy she has no idea about, and who also has her personal details.
And no, I am not trying to add to her worry, she`s a mum, and as such I know she is already there. (((((((Libra)))))))
No person should have to endure this kind of insecurity, and much of this could be rectified if this person simply makes himself known to Libra.
Noone is saying you are a git mate, but you will be if you don`t do the right thing.
Do what is right. Really really THINK about how Libra is probably feeling right now, and do something about it.
Venusxxx
What we have here is a single mum with a child. A child who is now receiving gifts, which although I`m sure he meant with the best intention, does indicate to Libra that her kid is now part of the focus of a guy she has no idea about, and who also has her personal details.
And no, I am not trying to add to her worry, she`s a mum, and as such I know she is already there. (((((((Libra)))))))
No person should have to endure this kind of insecurity, and much of this could be rectified if this person simply makes himself known to Libra.
Noone is saying you are a git mate, but you will be if you don`t do the right thing.
Do what is right. Really really THINK about how Libra is probably feeling right now, and do something about it.
Venusxxx
Thankyoufor sharing that MQ
I think I should add at this point thatswinging was something we looked at years before my breakdown, but it was definately the breakdown that gave me the huge wake-up call to help me to turn my life around on ALL levels, and do think that I am getting so much more out of it as a result.
Venusxxx
I think I should add at this point thatswinging was something we looked at years before my breakdown, but it was definately the breakdown that gave me the huge wake-up call to help me to turn my life around on ALL levels, and do think that I am getting so much more out of it as a result.
Venusxxx
Quote by onlyher
hiya venus
iam really sorry i didnt mean to get your back up or ne thing
sorry i should have said that my mum is a manic depression
and my brother was only put on AD meds after a really bad car crash . where he had to have is leg taken off the doctors say that the ad med would help.
Oh gosh, no you didn`t get my backup at all!
It`s was simply a healthy exchange of opinion, that`s always welcome.
There is only one opinion which would crop up on this thread which would get my back up, and if it does appear, I can, and will crucify it! :twisted:
And it certainly wasn`t yours, or anyone elses so far!
In fact if it`s manic depression you are referring to, then you are almost certainly correct. I don`t know what the exact stats are, but there does seem to be an increased chance of this being handed down through families....that is not to say it would happen, it might just mean a 1 in 100 chance, as opposed to a 1 in a 1000. (just pulling random numbers out of a hat to give an idea of a theory, not necessarily a truth)
I`d say that your brother`s depression isn`t related though, he sounds like he has enough crap on his plate for his depression to be standing alone (((hugs to him))). Manic depression is something else entirely.
Venusxxx
Quote by onlyher
hiya all
depression is a very dark thing and did you know that it runs in FAMILYS.
I think you`ll find the jury is still out on that depending upon which professional you read up on. There is increasing evidence that Bipolar (or Manic depression which ever term you prefer) can be passed down through families, as can a variety of geneticmental health disorders. Those who have lived difficult childhoods due to living with a family member with depression may also be effected in later life, which could go a long way in seeming to support that theory, but I don`t *think* you will find that those who have simply had family members with your usual run of the mill depression are more prone to suffer themselves through this fact alone.
Somebody with more knowledge than I might know of a proven clinical study though?
Venusxxx
