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VenusnMars
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Quote by neilinleeds

soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter? dunno
neil x x x ;0

This would be impossible to ascertain statistically, but I have the impression of having encountered a slightly higher than average occurrence of people who have had serious illnesses (physical or mental) among the swingers I have met. I have wondered before now whether there is a connection of some sort, whether an encounter with a one's own mortality leads to people becoming more daring, deciding to go ahead and realise their fantasies (sexual or other), not putting off the things they have dreamed of for any longer. I don't know if this strikes a chord with anyone here.
Mike.
yep that was what i was kinda getting at, and roger's thoughts about being self-aware and accepting of yourself maybe feeds into being more open and accepting of others, rather than the swinging to fulfil an unfulfilled need thing. i've kinda formed the same impression at times too mike, and rings true for me anyways, so maybe some truth in it.
neil x x x ;)
Quote by VenusnMars
All better now, and making up for lost time due to carrying a lifetime`s worth of unrecognised behavioural issues.

What, like the^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ above quote?
Nope, doesn`t strike a chord with me at all! rotflmao :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by HungryP
I've often wondered about whether some people who are suffering with other problems, perhaps tend to use swinging as a way of addressing some sort of deep seated need. Two ladies, with whom I have separately had some fun over the past year, have both suffered some sort of nervous breakdown (and no I don't think meeting was the cause rolleyes wink ). Each seemed to be under a lot of pressure, & seeing more & more men up until the point at which their lives "crashed". I have wondered whether this could be categorised as some sort of self-abuse.
It was a real shame for both, as I got to know each separately via MSN over a period of time, & they were both lovely people. From a selfish point of view, it was very frustrating as they were not just good friends of mine, but great fucks as well!!!!! dunno

I think it`s very frustrating when people with issues are seen to be doing this. I`m not saying some don`t, and the impression people get is wrong, or even that people who are behaving in this way are at `fault`, but it does make me wonder if after encountering such people it encourages others to feel it might be irresponsible to swing with someone with a mental health issue. Spoils it for the rest of us nutters! :mrgreen: wink
I also think that after having to deal with living with something which carries so much stigma, that it makes people think twice about prejudicing other groups. Perhaps, like me, having dealt with something like that, some are just more inclined to hang out with more open-minded people?
Venusxxx
((((Ant)))) You can call me an intellectual snob anytime you like hun kiss
I hope things improve for you really soon :rose:
Vix, as far as I know, Bipolar is for life, and quite often genetic. It`s treatable, and does come with highs as well as lows though, but I expect you already knew that. :rose:
Venusxxx
I think it might have a great deal to do with the fact those who have experianced it first or second-hand are just more likely to be interested in the topic Roger, but still, I think the amount of people who are comfortable to admit it since the thread has been here is encouraging. Personally, I am just as comfortable posting on this thread as I was the `have you ever broken anything` thread. I`d like to see a day everyone can feel that relaxed about it, but given the ignorance which is still rife out there, it is certainly something I wouldn`t have wanted to expose myself to during my illness, so kudos to those who have been able to post about it, especially those with current issues. worship
Venusxxx
Quote by honeyriderx
Someone very close to me has had Post Traumatic Stress Disorder for the past 4 years, They have found it very diffficult to live with, and indeed their marriage broke up because of it. People often think you only get PTSD from fighting in the wars etc, sadly no. This was triggered by a series of events i.e physical trauma, and mental shock. They will recover. But it will be a long process. It helped a great deal, to have the feelings labled instead if thinking she was going mad!! which of course she wasn't. But to know that she wasn't the only person tn the world to be going through it also helped.

My counseller suggested I had a touch of PTSD due to being constantly bullied as a child at school. I recognised a great many of my behaviours stemmed from this, but hadn`t actually understood the definition of `triggers`..and had quite a few of em! It`s very fascinating looking back at it all now I am out the otherside.
Venusxxx
Quote by neilinleeds
long answer now!
when we've had depression threads before, i was a bit taken aback how many contributed. now in the grand scheme of things, it was actually very few out of the whole membership, but still seemed a lot.
soooo . . . i wondered, is there anything about deep emotional things like depression, that links with deep emotional things like swinging, or would any forum have a similiar number of sufferers onboard , regardless of the subject matter? dunno
neil x x x ;0

Good question. I`m not sure really, I do know that although noone is immune to the disease, it is a popular opinion that quite often it`s the deep thinkers who succumb more often, whether this has ever been proven I don`t know, but I do know it`s the more profound side of swinging which appeals to me as it does to many others here. What I don`tdo, is use swinging as some desperate unfulfilled desire to be loved rolleyes ...which would be the `cliche` reaction of some!
Venusxxx
Quote by warwick
I apologise for my earlier flippancy.
the answer is yes .after my son had beaten cancer i had a bit of a breakdown, actually it was a lot of a breakdown but I m recovered now

Now don`t be getting paranoid everyone! If you didn`t laugh you`d cry! Flippancy has it`s place, as long as the acceptance is there too! wink
Me- breakdown three years ago, diagnosed with agrophobia, severe depression, and social anxiety, on meds for a year, very intense counselling. All better now, and making up for lost time due to carrying a lifetime`s worth of unrecognised behavioural issues.
Xxdevil69...bummer. sad
Venusxxx
Quote by Scandal
It`s a serious thread smileVenusxxx

Ok sorry Venus, I certainly wasn't trying to cultivate any stigma, just a little taken aback.
surprised Actually it didn`t occur to me for one minute that you were! I just assumed you were genuinely confused as to where I was coming from on this given the diversity of the bollox I usually spread around the board! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by xxdevil69
Currently suffering sad

Looking at the poll, do you find it a little more reassurring to know that it`s a common illness you have? (((hugs)))
Venusxxx
Quote by Scandal
Hmmmm not really sure about this Venus if it's a serious thread. :shock:
A close friend had some serious problems a few years back and it was a horrible experience to see what they went through.
On a lighter note it reminds me of the OFAH episode where Del Boy goes the Doc and he asks him if he smokes, he says yes, then the Doc says, drink and he says oh yes that's nice of you I'll have a large scotch lol lol
Venus why can't you just do posts like the Funk:
"Hey, what colour is everyone's wallpaper?" lol lol

It`s a serious thread smile
There`s a great deal of stigma attached still. I thought it`d be a good idea for people to see just how many people they are attaching a stigma to! Not that I am accusing any particular individual of doing this, but you can bet your last dollar with the number of people here there will be a few!
butters999999:
I have three times once after my mother died once after my father died and once after I was told I had cancer. The once after my mother died was the worst I had a breakdown. The others were mainly panic attacks.
Everyone handles things differently

If you beat anxiety/depression three times, I`d say that speaks volumes about your strength.
Venusxxx
Quote by MISSCHIEF
You must be one very special lady to have such a profound impact on our Venus ......... you made her lip wobble and everything worship

Quite possibly because she was trying to sit on it at the time :shock: :shock: :shock:
Sorry Jen, Mars logged in this morning so I missed this in my new posts when I logged on!
I could throttle him! evil
Venusxxx
Quote by Parrot
Ahhhh, but if I had had a mental illness in the past and it hadn't been diagnosed as such, how would I know?

I didn`t make it diagnosis only because many people don`t get as far as a doctor. I think there will be enough people awareof past or current issues with depression (for example) to make the poll worthwhile. Was trying to keep it simple. Last time I did a more complex poll I stuffed it right up! :lol2:
Venusxxx
It`s supposed to be something like one in 6 adults (?) within their lifetime, possibly more, I forget. So if six of you in a row vote `no`, it simply means you haven`t had it yet! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
That is very sweet of them, and I`m sure they would be happy to let you know who they are after taking the above into consideration. I`ll expect you`ll hear something soon pet.
If you don`t, have a little word with your neighbours so that they can keep an eye out for you.
Venusxxx
Can`t look down the back of the sofa. It would involve moving.
Can`t drive......but I wouldn`t put it past the bugger to have hotwired a car. No doubt it is tearing around my local village creating havoc at this very moment! :shock: :shock: :shock:
OMG pond ornaments.....scattered around my living room! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ......
no wait, my mistake........those are family members :huh:
Trying not to think what my back would be doing with those poor innocent fish :shock: :shock: :shock: confused
Venusxxx
It`s a lovely post and I`m telling you so it will be bumped! It deserves to be noticed! kiss
Venusxxx
Quote by MrFC
Capricorn women:
Don't need much foreplay - you go from zero to WOW in nothing flat! Not interested in exotic variation; only in staying power. Since you like to dominate you like to be astride your man, set a rhythm, and please yourself. Once into the rhythm, lovemaking becomes a wild contest with orgasm as the prize and you can depend on getting there more than once. Also a scratcher and a screamer. Best sex mates: Taurus, Scorpio and Pisces.

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I`m not sure I should comment on that! :shock:
Venusxxx
Are people talking about OUTSIDE here?..........I seem to remember that place......vaguely. :uhoh:
Venusxxx
Me! Me! Me! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
I can grow a penis honest I can! Especially for you! :mrgreen:
Pick me! :bounce:
Venusxxx
I think it would be fun to try to guess which one Satin didn`ttick!
65% here btw :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Scandal, I always felt there was something special about you :twisted: :twisted: :rascal: :rascal: :rascal:
C`mere you sexy thang! hump
Venusxxx
Ok, well I`m not so soppy as to start two soppy threads in one day.....so I`ll add to this one.
1. We had Christmas presents from America! Including the bag I left out there containing all the photos I took when I was on the Appalachian trail..............17 months ago! Oh, and some kind of dodgy chocolate thing. I`m sat here eating Twinkies! :bounce:
2. Another very dear friend phoned to say she had finally received a diagnosis for a health issue which has been playing havoc with her for ages.......and it`s treatable! :bounce:
3. A wealthy family member paid all of our rent, we don`t have to go to court now on Tuesday! We were up for eviction on 15th Dec, but the case was ajourned....now it`s no longer hanging over our heads at all (although we will of course pay the money back) I didn`t see that one coming at all! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
With the new job, and the new transport, things are beginning to finally look up!
Not bad for a Thursday eh?! wink
Shag anyone?! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
The Art of Debate by Ice Pie
1. Learn everything there is to know about how to approach debate
2. Turn said debate into a debate about debating
3. Knowledge about the subject at hand is optional. It will not get that far.
4. Next!
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Venusxxx