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WibblyWobbly
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female, 66
Straight Male, 57
0 miles · South Yorkshire

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Quote by sparky230
i'm a scorpio Nov 14th

I believe that is you, pepps and myself who share this birthday! I can only think that February weather ensures a lot of shagging! smile
Quote by macman_uk
ooooooohhhh god its been sooooo long since I had a decent kiss. wife HATES it :cry: :cry: :cry:

What does she say when you ask her about her reluctance to tonsil tango? Maybe it is a dental hygene problem... she must have kissed you before you were married...
Quote by KitKat
Computers? 1920's? WTF? :shock: It turns out that those who compiled statistics were called computers at that time. A sign of how the interpretation of language changes.
Now - on to my point. I honestly think that the concept of swinging is currently undergoing a change. In the past, swinging was seen as 'wife swopping' - couples who exchanged partners.
I think that understanding is changing, and swinging is becoming a term applied to anyone who is able to enjoy sex as an enjoyable physical and emotional exchange without the burden of expectations.
Further, if it is not too pretentious, I would say that Swinging Heaven IS at the forefront of that evolution, it attracts all sorts of people, but keeps those with the healthy and open attitude it takes to be a swinger.
There are some that appear on here whom I am happy to say to: 'you are not a swinger' It is nothing to do with age, sex, sexual orientation or marital status, it is purely based on the attitude they display.
lhk
Kat

I completely concur with your thoughts Kat... I was thinking exactly the same - that definitions change over time... Look at the usage of the word 'Gay' for example... Thanks once again for your positive contribution and helping me sort out my thoughts! I hope we meet one day... smile
Quote by Ice Pie
More bloody labels. rolleyes
The site info refers to "recreational sex". |That's a good enough description for me. It doesn't say that single people need the permission or approval of the attached.
Those of you who consider yourselves "real" swingers according to your personal definition are welcome to your label, but stop pretending that it makes you superior because it doesn't, OK?

Hiya Arnold... I don't think anyone is taking a superiour position here... and if I personally gave you that impression it was certainly unintended and am sorry...
Or are you just trolling..? xx ;)
After reading Kat's definition it seems to match yours and that is recreational sex with no egos, headboard notching etc...
Sincerely yours,
Myrtle Higginbotham (Spinster of the Parish)
Quote by Sexysteph
Wibblywobbly & the utterly gorgeous GT Afters Party Confirmed

Awwwwwwww Steph you should have seen GT's face when I showed him this... he went kind of pink in a very manly way...
Quote by KitKat
I do like this thread - it makes people think about WHY others are here.
Fabio said it is about a state of mind. I would agree with him. Swinging is sex without the ego, jealousy and bed post notching. It doesn't matter what the combination is really, as long as it is a case of mutual enjoyment of the experience, and not just a shag for a shags sake.
lhk
Kat

Sincerely thanks for that input Kat... you have done what I hoped would be done and that is give me a definition to Swinging that I could appreciate and embrace. I said I was open to persuasive argument! smile
Thanks guys for this discussion... you've helped me with something I was wrestling with! I feel like doing something effusive in a Dick Emery kind of way and shout ... and I love you all!
Sadly only those born in the sixties and early seventies will get that... *sigh*!
Quote by fabio grooverider
oooh... so where do that leave me???
i am a single guy but i condsider myself to be a swinger.
but i suppose by your terms anyone single is just after casual sex... which i think is grossly unfair and a generalisation...

I do sincerely take your point Sean... I used the term casual sex - perhaps a better term would be recreational sex... is that less offensive to you? xx
Quote by fabio grooverider
so if the partner is playing (with permission) with a single person..... by you defination the attached person is "swinging" while the single person is having "casual sex"

I did define my thoughts in an earlier post Sean... I did state that if a single person was engaging in recreational sex with a married/partnered couple then he/she too was swinging...
Quote by fabio grooverider
i only have sex if i like the person i am doing it with... if i have built a friendship over time and it feels like a natural extensidn to whatever we all have........
sean xxxxxxxxxxxx

Of course... I understand that... and if it is friendship with no long term commitment then that surely is recreational sex..? Like I said earlier though... not closed minded on this and I am open to persuasive discussion.
Wendy
xxxxxx
Quote by manofmuchfun
if I met a female off here can I define that as swinging ? in a sense that we have both advertised ?

Sorry I should have responded to this part as well...
The example you give here is, IMO, casual sex... nothing wrong with it... this is not a morality debate... An unattached person advertising and getting hot 'n horny with another unattached person is casual sex... pure and simple... smile
Quote by manofmuchfun
so if we have 5 males an 5 females in a room some married an some not then whats that definition ?

Then that is swinging because presumably everyone is getting a piece of the action and they all know that some of them are married/partnered... :twisted:
Quote by manofmuchfun
Then how do we define a single person who wants an does play with a sort of regular partner ?
I meant as attending odd nights ?
maybe single but is that still casual sex ? could define prostitutes as casual sex ?

Currently I'd say yes, that is casual sex unless you considered that regular partner in a loving and romantic light but I am open to persuasive argument though...
With regard to sex workers... that is a profession and, in my opinion, is not part of this discussion. smile
Thanks for the reply. smile
Having been on this Forum for nearly a year now I've come to feel that there are two distinctive categories... and I wondered if others thought I was correct, or not, in my assumption.
My current definition of Swinging would be an attached and committed couple engaging in sexual relationships with A N Other/s. All involved would be swinging... I'd also extend the term to a married couple/partnership who had sex individually as long as their partner/spouse was aware and approved.
Casual sex is sex between two unattached people or partnered, when their partner is unaware of the infidelity.
Does that make sense or am I wibbling? and to be honest does it really matter... ;-)
Wendy (prone to rambling - cos it's *that* 'bee in a bonnet' week... poor GT smile
xx
Quote by Red(RHG)
Have got Green Mile downstairs but haven't plucked up the courage yet to watch it. Fav old film which would see me bunking off school and curling up to was Cary Grant - Bringing Up Baby - god I loved Cary Grant! (One of my first crushes along with Rod Stewert and Annie Lennox.)
Bestest other film has got to be Shawshank Redemption - tissues puurlease......
Cathy x

The Green Mile is deffo a film to be watched with someone else and plenty of cushions/pillows and hankies...
Agreed with you 100% on Cary Grant... one of my faves is 'A Touch of Mink' with Doris Day... hilarious! Another one is starring with Ingrid Bergman... drat what is the name of that film... a very lightweight comedy too... Just Googled and the title is Indiscreet...
Somebody else mentioned Young Frankenstein... so funny in its day... 'What knockers!' 'Oh, zank you Docter'... Frau Blucher... NEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHH... If you haven't seen it then that will mean bugger all! ;-)
OOOOOOh what a great topic for us today of all days 'cos today is the 2nd anniversary of the first time we met in real life... I saw this bloke dancing with his internet handle on his t-shirt... so I thought... hmmmmm that has to be GT... so I went over and introduced myself... I'd forgotten something... he flicked my hair... said it was cos I was blonde and then smiled the most gorgeous smile at me... my tum did a flip flop and then I walked away in a bemused state...
We saw each other every month at a dance and became increasingly drawn to each other till we got to June and he asked to meet me for a 'walk and a talk'... where he told me how he felt about me... and I said i felt exactly the same way...
The following June we were married... Life is very good! smile
Quote by Ice Pie
What I was thinking was we each decide whether to be an attacker or a defender and create temporary IDs to assume the role of some kind of magical or mythological being, be it Roman, Greek, Norse, LOTR, whatever or just invent one.
As long as we got roughly equal numbers of goodies and baddies, I think it could be a blast! biggrin

I like this one... but how do you go about creating a temporary ID? I haven't been involved with masquerades etc so not sure how you go about it...
TIA...
smile
Congratulations to you both... you look like we did on our wedding day... and hopefully, like us, you'll get happier and happier as time goes by... You looked gorgeous in blue babe... smile
Woo hoooooo GT and I are so looking forward to this smile :bounce:
Anyone fancy meeting up for a curry?
Quote by pepps
EWWWWW PRINCE CHARLES LOL
though im not as old as him lol
love peppsxxxxxxxxx

High five! So is mine! 14th November, 19** blah blah ;-)
lol
Quote by Alexandra
Can I make it a 4some and include Harrison Ford too?

Now you are being greedy... oh, go on then... as long as I get to play too! wink
Quote by Alexandra
Alternatively
Me, Johnny Depp and George Clooney!
(I could think of quite a few involving some SH members too wink )

ooooooooHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Johnny Depp... especially dressed in his Pirates costume... ohhhh I need a cold shower! Yes him and Brad Pitt... drooool...
Oh and I agree about some SH members too... cool
Quote by Clare_Lincs
Righty ho poor old "Im a lady" Steve_lincs has mentioned to me that he hasnt had many pm's lately poor thing :cry: :violin:

Gotta bit of a question for poor Steve... does poor Steve send any PMs out himself... I'm sure there are plenty out there like me who very rarely receives a PM - unless it is a reply to one I've initiated originally... but we don't complain about it - not even to our better halves... confused
Sincerely not intending to be offensive on this... honest but communication is a two way thing I find. smile
Tell him to get off of his arse and send out PMs himself... :twisted:
Quote by Calista
Must admit to giving Valentines day not much more than a second mention. We don't generally bother, but our wedding anni is only a fortnigt before and so we tend to go all out for that more.
Cxx

It''ll be me then being an incurable romantic LOL - thanks for your response! smile
EnglishChris99's thread made me pluck up courage to bring this up...
Now the love of my life has categorically stated, as he did last year, that he will not buy me a Valentine's card... as far as he is concerned Valentine's tokens should be from a secret admirer and not from someone whom you know admires you...
Last year I did send him a card... didn't sign it - to at least pay hommage to his views and was disconcerted not to receive anything back... but he did warn me - he was honest.
This year he is being equally honest and as we walked through Marks and Sparks at the weekend he had that same, hard expression on his face when he mentioned it. Now I know I'm being silly but, in my opinion, he is my Valentine... even though we are married... Hey ho... whoever said life was perfect. smile
I just shrugged and hid my hurt face and have not mentioned it since... he rarely comes on here so he won't see this... smile
Quote by freckledbird
God me too Wibbly.
Then again, skinnier women don't always feel confident either do they?
Bev
xx

Hiya Bev,
Since I've never, ever been skinny it is a difficult question for me to answer. smile
I certainly now recognise that confidence is the key. Before I met GT I'd walk around with shoulders slouched assuming that no one was interested in me. After a few weeks of knowing GT I remember walking to the bank. I was thinking about what we'd done the night before and I must have had a smile on my face. I caught a glimpse of me in a window and my shoulders were back, head held high with a dreamy, smiley look on my face... and as I walked further on at least two gentleman smiled at me. :twisted:
Now maybe they smiled before and I didn't see them... chicken or egg... who knows? confused
love,
Wendy
xx
Quote by freckledbird
Apologies if someone's already said this but no, big is NOT always beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right? So someone might look at me and think 'yuk fat cow' , then look at another larger lady and think 'wow'. It's more than a size issue, it's about perception of a person as a whole. I do think that some women use the BBW label incorrectly sometimes. It's very hard to say that thin people are nicer or fat people are nicer and restrict yourself to one or the other. Some larger ladies do get very defensive when turned down (seen it in chat rooms) and either end up pleading to be fucked or moaning and saying that the person is wrong/don't know what they're missing. Well, they aren't wrong. It's everyone's right to turn someone down on whatever grounds they like. Just because you're fat doesn't mean people should give you a chance because you're calling yourself BBW.
I do agree with you on the whole idea of the media portraying the idea that thin women are better. However, being a large lady hasn't stopped some women from being successful (Dawn French, Jo Brand, Alison Moyet). These women, and others, have the confidence to stand up and do what they do very well and sod what people think of them.
I'd shag Dawn French any day in preference to Kate Moss, but that's because I think that DF is lovely and KM is a bloody ugly cow, not because she's skinny.

^^^^^^^^ wot she said! smile
I'm a large lady and I automatically think people won't like me for being large... I am slowly discovering that it's not the case... but I do admire those women of us with ample portions that get out there and flaunt it! I wish I had that confidence! smile