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16 hours ago
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whats taking place in libya is the looting of its wealth and genocide of the inhabitants by cia qaeder and it's airfoce nato. every line of news in the mainstream media is lies, propaganda and psyops that himmler and goring could only dream of. next is probably syria but dont be suprised if another african country is bombarded into the stone age to frighten the african union into recognising al qaeder as the sole legitimate government of libya while the n.t.c. carries out mass murder of black migrant workers trapped in libya. described by nato as mercenaries to justify no action to protect civilians.
the excuse to murder tens of thousands of libyan civilians was to protect civilians through sanctions and a no fly zone. what a load of bollox.
now we hear in the press that megravi (lockerbie bomber) should come back and be tried again. for what ? he did'nt fucking do it. evon fletchers murder ? for fucks sake, has everyone forgoten the despatches programme that proved beyond all reasonable doubt that the bullet that killed her DID NOT COME FROM THE LIBYAN EMBASSY.
further, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that the gaddaffi regime used its airforce against peaceful demonstrators. there is absolutely no evidence that gaddaffi was buying viagra to give to his troops to carry out gang as a punishment to women. it is all crap, lies and bullshit to confuse the libyans and carry outside world opinion along with the recolonisation of an independent free state that used its wealth to improve the living standards of its people. the overwhelming majority of libyans will never accept the proxy rule of the u.s. and nato alliance countries through the self appointed rebel national transitional council who's leaders will assist in the of libya for their own personal gain and carry out mass murder to achieve it.
world war 111 is underway.
yes, imprison children and their parents for stealing widescreen tv's, burning and looting shops, but let blair, brown, bush, obama, pearl, rumsfeld, cheney, wolferwitz, cameron and clegg free for bombing and invading afghanistan, iraq, pakistan, yemen and libya. destroying schools, hospitals, universities, power stations, bridges, roads, sewarage works and all manner of infrastructure and kill civilians by the hundreds of thousands all based on lies and deciept. yes, excellent hipocracy here. lay waste our industrial heretage and throw millions out of work with no future, training or education while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
take away all pensions and benefits and blame the disenchanted have nots for criminality and opportunism. like i said a couple of years ago "there is a steam train headed are way" and "you aint seen nothing yet". doo doo
Quote by deancannock
thing we have to remember is this did start with dissaffected youths.....unfortunatly this was overtaken by pure greed and criminality. people saw a chance to get something for nothing and the greed factor kicked in.
Starlight you will find so many of those convicted will not be from the backgrounds you suggested.......but from strong, moral, white, middle class families. we have already seen a primary school teacher, ex-soldier and university graduate in court etc.... this was just the me me me society...where people are greedy and want more and more !! Maybe we need to address this need for greed as much as we do any moral parental issues.
In reality the causes of this are many and varied....and most definatly changed as the days passed. Once the dust has settled, do not think it would do any harm to try and investigate them !!!

it began with the shooting of an unarmed young man who the relatives and friends of did not believe the police explanation which has since been proven to be a pack of lies.
thereafter the least educated, excluded, disenfranchised took advantage. a bit like the phuckers who stole billions upon billions really except politicians (in there pockets) would rather we did'nt bash. yes, bring in tougher laws. arrest all them looting phuckers but lets have some equity and arrest the mega looters as well.
Quote by GnV
what links all these incidents together?

Mindless violence, simple. Nothing to do with the original shooting of a known gun toting drug dealer who all his mates call a 'nice guy'.
I read elsewhere comments that they should read the riot act to these mindless morons and bring in the troops to shoot looters on sight. No need for troops these days, the Police have weapons enough. Can't use water canon, of course, because the poor little blighters might get wet and die of pneumonia!! How sad.
The big problem with this for the UK is that they have been condemning Gaddafi and Assad for doing just that, so batten down the hatches UK and accept that you are going to be robbed blind - either by the looters, your insurance company in increased premiums or by the Government in increased taxes to pay for your 'security' (or any combination of all three).
It was also suggested that the safest place in these 'hot spots' is probably the Benefits Office. I can't think why.
Gulson will no doubt provide a link to the Governor of the Bank of England's brand of toilet roll in his office toilet in the Palace of Westminster (which he doesn't have, of course).mmm yes of coarse. gulson talks a load of tosh about increases in food prices, energy prices, taxation, unemployment, bank profits and banker bonuses. yes its all the fault of the underclass with no education, no jobs, no future etc. lets cut all their benefits and lock em all up that will get the world economy back on its feet.
and while we are at it, lets take away all your benefits, pensions, jobs and health care and if you respond by violent protest, lets have martial law to crack your heads open. yes, excellent critical thought here, brilliant. that will get the country back on its feet. just what the doctor erm sorry, banker ordered.
oh and lets hope the u.n. does'nt call for a no fly zone over the u.k.
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I think this example goes some way to explaining the cynicism of myself and others.......here we have a government who are more than happy to write off 1 billion of unpaid illegally avoided tax in favour of clawing it back from benefits claimants. And Vodaphone are far from alone in their efforts to tread the line between legal and illegal
I have no doubt the majority will be found eligible for the benefits they claim, I have no doubt some will be found to be borderline cases lose their benefits and suffer,I have no doubt many will suffer a great deal of stress and have their conditions exacerbated by this....I have no doubt that many would be found eligible for benefits they do not claim if anyone cared to investigate that (they wont)
This government (they are not the first) are fishing for minnows in order to feed the sharks that they are so afraid of upsetting.
im always interested by the fact everyone seems to look at the banks as the masters,
when it was normal people and the high demand for thier money that caused the ultimate collapse of northern rock

Benefits cheats are smoke and mirrors waved at you to hide the real leeches cheats thieves and scumbags who will take any action to avoid paying their dues to the society they bleed dry...they are the real scum not some bloke down the road who gets fifty quid he shouldn't .And the real joke ?? the real tragedy.....nearly every other poster on this topic thinks the government are being reasonable......absolute fucking joke.....I'd be pissing myself if it wasn't so pathetic
lets hope that the banks and the likes of vodaphone are next then.
but on another note anyone who buys cheap baccie or knock of dvd`s and fake goods are no different to the banks or such like


Once more with feeling........altogether nowstaggers, northern rock collapsed because it was lending long term and borrowing short term (overnight) from other banks and when other banks could no longer lend because they were insolvent, northern rock collapsed. ponzi comes to mind. just a point but like you, i cannot understand why so many people fall for the con. make the scrounging poor poorer and waive taxation for the very rich making them richer. bit like peace bombing of civilians and infrastructure really and support for al ciaqader in libya. the world is upside down. oh and lending countries more money at interest to reduce their debt ?
food and energy costs rising by 20% making inflation only 4% while incomes are falling. bang goes the age old myth that workers wage demands cause inflation and make us uncompetetive. still, the bankers are only going to pay themselves 14 billion in bonuses instead of the 16 billion they earned ?
there will be a deepening of the crisis felt by all (the 98% of us) this autumn and winter as gas and electricy costs soar beyond the reach of the average family and particularily those on any kind of benefits as the cuts bite. everyone should go to their m.p.'s surgeries and give them a roasting and demand to know which way they voted on particular issues, wars, cuts and austerity etc.
i'll make a couple of points although i'm sure i'm gona get attacked for them. whistle blower journalist found dead and the police dont think the cercumstances are suspicious, (second one in this hacking case, the other died of a heart attack at glastonbury). i wonder if they were related to dr. david kelly ? second point, gas prices to rise by 16%.
i wonder if this hacking business has been going on for a while ? i'm sure there was a "sqidgey" case some years ago to do wiv sum big shot in royalty. oh, and was'nt gchq tracking two cars and the mobile phones within on there way to carry out a bombing in n.i. it's all o.k. tho cos the police will investigate the police and the public will believe whatever they are told, wont they ?
Quote by Max777
to who and where did they get the credit to lend that became our debt

Would you care to be a little more specific as to who the "who" is that you refer to?
roger daltry and pete townsend of course. the lenders of course, the largest bond holders being the federal reserve amongst many other financial institutions, banks (commercial and retail) central banks and insurance companies, soveriegn funds etc as well you know max.
i have never said the end of the world is nigh and it aint. and i have total optimism that the world will continue for another millenia. i am not depressed either and if i sound like a broken record to some, i care not as reality is on my side regardless of the naysayers.
tell me there is light at the end of the tunnel and give me some evidence and i will consider it. green shoots if you like. the world economy is in a death spiral of mounting debt. to who and where did they get the credit to lend that became our debt ? mars ? they created it out of thin air and charge it at interest. FRAUD
then they transfere the debt to us via their puppets and steal all our money and assets and drive us into penury and send us off to war to kill and steal more for them based on lies. this is not depressing, it is the truth. it is.
no amount of down banding, reductions in pay, redundancies, cuts in benefits, cuts in public spending or increase in taxation will make uk plc any more competetive to save jobs, pensions or benefits or repay an unrepayable fraudulent created debt that all countries are facing.
in attempting to try and repay debt by cutting the standard of living and thereby consumption, revenue falls correspondingly and consequently creates the need for more debt. a deflationary spiral unless the central bank creates more credit and lends it into existence at interest (increase in the money supply)inflation. the interest alone on all the debt that has now been created is greater than G.D.P. planet earth. it is unrepayable and was created by fraud.
how can greece repay hundreds of billions of euro's it never recieved. how can ireland, portugal, spain or italy ? how can we repay 200 billion that was given to failed banks in the uk (and thats fuck all to whats coming). impossible, so repudiate the debt and arrest the fraudsters and their politician puppets, put them on trial and ivestigate where the debt came from. or starve and freeze to death this coming winter.
take a look down your high street or city centre, notice the reduction in traffic jams and trust your own senses and not the headlies of the media. latest one, "unemployment has fallen but increase in jobless allowance seekers" tosh.
there is no coming out of this recession, double dip or green shoots. thats all media hype and bullshit. retail fuel sales are down 30% over the last 2 years. what does that tell you. "this is the mother of all crisies" and you aint seen nufin yet.
wrong blue. the government, banks and hedge funds are gonna steal everyone's pension private and public. their gonna steal your taxes, health care, education, welfare and benefits that your taxes pay for. you are on the same side as the public sector workers wether you choose to be or not.
Quote by Lizaleanrob
which side are you on ?

You first
Dave_Notts
the side of truth
It is a pretty answer guls............but not really an answer is it? It can be taken a number of ways.
In all the writing you have never stated what should be done differently. Do you have an answer?
Dave_Notts
guls answer dave was to WAKE UP!! as he put it
does this mean guls is just a bad dream ??
i had a dream last night that many government ministers and heads of corporations and banks met in st moritz from thursday to sunday last week to formulate policy for the illuminati ? nah, load of bollox
Quote by GnV
which side are you on ?

You first
Dave_Notts
I thought you knew Dave... he's on the posh side of Kenilworth Road throwing tasty scraps otherwise destined for the pedal bin in his lavish gaff to us poorer phuckers on Cheapside :lol2:
the side of truth
Quote by Max777
and other fuels and energy goes up 20% ?
and food goes up another 20%
and the domestic rates go up another 20%
and the pensionable age goes up 20%
and unemployment goes up to 20%
and interest goes up 20% from .5 to .6% base rate
and taxes go up by 20%
and the money supply goes up by 20%
last one a trick question foxey

Another totally illogical rant.
If it could be guaranteed that interest rates would ONLY inccease by 20%, there would be a lot of very happy people out there. Of course savers would not be happy and I'm sure that you on your £120K salary and £750K house fall into this category.
totally illogical rant ?
pure unadulterated hostility on your part. gotta live somewhere, might as well be here on the kenilworth rd i've lived on for the past 18 yrs and fortunate to be on 120k plus bonus but have my feet on the ground caring for others less fortunate. expected better from you max. totally illogical rant, i thought i was a conspiracy theorist or autistic trotskyist, leninist, communist, something phucking ist delusional rantist who should pedal his wares elsewhere. question for you :- which side are you on ?
Quote by foxylady2209
Conspiracies - my take.
There will never be decent proof.
There are theories, theories and more theories - many more fantastical than the last and precious few providing any facts.
IF there are things like the Illuminati I'm sure they are perfectly capable of hiding facts or blowing their own smokescreens.
They are unlikely to have spring up in the last 5 years so (assuming they exist) life so far has managed a) with them and b) without proof of their existance.
In othere words - why fret?
My Grandfather, Great Uncle and Uncle were all Masons. Specifically a branch formed by men who worked together in London but were also musicians/composers. There are all sorts of documents on the web recording Masonic acitvities. I have no idea - nor do I care - if there were other, hidden, activities and silly handshakes and such like.
Seriously - there are far more serious/important things to worry about - like how am I going to heat my house if the gas goes up another 20%?

and other fuels and energy goes up 20% ?
and food goes up another 20%
and the domestic rates go up another 20%
and the pensionable age goes up 20%
and unemployment goes up to 20%
and interest goes up 20% from .5 to .6% base rate
and taxes go up by 20%
and the money supply goes up by 20%
last one a trick question foxey
football is so important. lets have lots more of it. lets make britain great again and respected while we bomb the capitol of libya to protect civilians and tell the stupid british that gaddafi supplies his troops with viagra to commit gang as a punishment to rebels so we will bomb the bastards more. (its not about oil)
oh and them rotten iraqi's as i recall were throwing babies out of incubators. bomb the bastards i say (its not about oil)
gaddafi was bombing and straffing his own people with aircraft so we gotta have "no fly" and bomb his land army, his compounds, his relatives, his water and sewerage works, his power stations, roads, bridges and canals, ports and general infrastructure of modern civilised life, to degrade his ability to kill our troops training, guiding and arming the rebels er sorry, civilians (its not about oil)
meanwhile, the libyans sit back and enjoy the heat watching football and their favourite team manchester united (or have they gone off them now since their humiliation by barca) while the world watches and listens to the crap justifications and propanda being put out by nato led by BRITAIN and AMERICA TO STEAL LIBYA'S OIL.
fifa in its wildest dreams could never be as corrupt murdering bastards as the lot we got here
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mmmm, well obama will be reselected and endorsed by the primaries now (god he was at a low ebb) the oil and gas contractors have reached northern pakistan and nead a corridor due south of helmand clearing to the sea. "the grand chessboard". oh, and now osama has used up all nine lives (he has been declared dead from kidney failure nine times in the past ten years by many top international government figures), we need a new percieved threat to continue waging war, controlling natural resources and denying the chinese, indians and russians those resources to maintain our primacy.
quick, roll out anwar alawaki, number 2 or 3 in al qaeder and beat the drums of a retalitory strike, oooh fear, fear. blame the pakistanis and invade on the pretext of securing their nukey weapons that might end up in the hands of "the data base" of the mujahadeen.
oh my god, we have dropped a bollock. we have to change the story again because the majority of dumbed down fat pizza eating coke swigging superbowl idiot americans dont believe our story. but dont worry, there is a small minority that will believe that osama bin laden, member of the wealthy saudi carlton group members and family who led the cia financed, trained and armed mujahadeen to expel the soviets out of afghanistan, changed sides in the late nineties and attacked america with 18 saudi and one syrian led by mohamed atta (passport found at ground zero) with commercial aircraft hijackings while the airforce and missile defence systems of the most powerful nation on earth stood down on the direct orders of richard cheney. (9/11 commission report). consistent tho innit max.
the whole story of the killing of osama bin laden as outlined by the president of the u.s. and the subsequent changes in the story by various state department and congressional members are pure theatre and propagander.

Same old, same old...........................
watch and listen to the truthful free press and our honest politicians as they talk up retaliation on pakistan and connections with gadaffi and syria. the chinese know full well what britain, america and nato are up to and will mobilise appropriately.
bin laden would have to be resurrected from the grave to be killed again, with or without proof. no such proof will be forthcoming as well i think you know. watch as the downturn continues and austerity abounds. mervyn king has let the cat out of the bag on that score this week.
I'm still waiting for your proof that the Bank of England is a private bank.....and also your advice on how to safegauard our salaries and homes in light of the fact that it is now "the big one".............. i dont need to prove anything and you certainly will not find proof or evidence on the bank of englands website. the bank of england, (for your benefit, in my opinion) is a private bank with private shareholders. it has sole rights by royal charter to issue the currency. upon creation of credit (sterling), it lends it to the treasury (government) AT INTEREST. if things are the other way round i.e. the government through it's proxy (the bank of england) creates credit (sterling), then who do the phuck do we (the taxpayer) owe it to ?
as far as "the big one" is concerned, the dramatic collapse has been postponed by the inflationary increase in credit supply being available to banking institutions for market speculation at .5% interest from the bank of england. but the effects in rising energy and commodity prices, increases in taxes (vat), cuts in spending and theft of pensions and rising unemployment are "the big one" to most people.
funny how the guilty get bonuses and the innocent get austerity. the effects of reducing the spending power of the population by wage cuts, unemployment and cuts in government spending will be an increase in the rate of collapse. you dont have to be joseph stigliz or a rocket scientist to work that out.
this bunch of politicians will increase spending on themselves and predatory wars and increase the tax take from those whose services they will cut and it makes no difference whether they be liberal, conservative or labour. these phuckers will take us to the brink and beyond of all out nuclear confrontation whilst driving us into penury.
note the words from the chinese foreign ministry may 19th following the bullshit osama capture/killing. " the world MUST observe pakistans sovreignty " the chinese know full well that america and britain are cutting them off from mineral and energy supply. they are the biggest investor in libyan oil infrastructure in the last five years and know very well that the attack on libya and the rebel alliance is wholly western backed to prevent them from gaining access to libyan oil.
Quote by Max777
mmmm, well obama will be reselected and endorsed by the primaries now (god he was at a low ebb) the oil and gas contractors have reached northern pakistan and nead a corridor due south of helmand clearing to the sea. "the grand chessboard". oh, and now osama has used up all nine lives (he has been declared dead from kidney failure nine times in the past ten years by many top international government figures), we need a new percieved threat to continue waging war, controlling natural resources and denying the chinese, indians and russians those resources to maintain our primacy.
quick, roll out anwar alawaki, number 2 or 3 in al qaeder and beat the drums of a retalitory strike, oooh fear, fear. blame the pakistanis and invade on the pretext of securing their nukey weapons that might end up in the hands of "the data base" of the mujahadeen.
oh my god, we have dropped a bollock. we have to change the story again because the majority of dumbed down fat pizza eating coke swigging superbowl idiot americans dont believe our story. but dont worry, there is a small minority that will believe that osama bin laden, member of the wealthy saudi carlton group members and family who led the cia financed, trained and armed mujahadeen to expel the soviets out of afghanistan, changed sides in the late nineties and attacked america with 18 saudi and one syrian led by mohamed atta (passport found at ground zero) with commercial aircraft hijackings while the airforce and missile defence systems of the most powerful nation on earth stood down on the direct orders of richard cheney. (9/11 commission report). consistent tho innit max.
the whole story of the killing of osama bin laden as outlined by the president of the u.s. and the subsequent changes in the story by various state department and congressional members are pure theatre and propagander.

Same old, same old...........................
watch and listen to the truthful free press and our honest politicians as they talk up retaliation on pakistan and connections with gadaffi and syria. the chinese know full well what britain, america and nato are up to and will mobilise appropriately.
bin laden would have to be resurrected from the grave to be killed again, with or without proof. no such proof will be forthcoming as well i think you know. watch as the downturn continues and austerity abounds. mervyn king has let the cat out of the bag on that score this week.
mmmm, well obama will be reselected and endorsed by the primaries now (god he was at a low ebb) the oil and gas contractors have reached northern pakistan and nead a corridor due south of helmand clearing to the sea. "the grand chessboard". oh, and now osama has used up all nine lives (he has been declared dead from kidney failure nine times in the past ten years by many top international government figures), we need a new percieved threat to continue waging war, controlling natural resources and denying the chinese, indians and russians those resources to maintain our primacy.
quick, roll out anwar alawaki, number 2 or 3 in al qaeder and beat the drums of a retalitory strike, oooh fear, fear. blame the pakistanis and invade on the pretext of securing their nukey weapons that might end up in the hands of "the data base" of the mujahadeen.
oh my god, we have dropped a bollock. we have to change the story again because the majority of dumbed down fat pizza eating coke swigging superbowl idiot americans dont believe our story. but dont worry, there is a small minority that will believe that osama bin laden, member of the wealthy saudi carlton group members and family who led the cia financed, trained and armed mujahadeen to expel the soviets out of afghanistan, changed sides in the late nineties and attacked america with 18 saudi and one syrian led by mohamed atta (passport found at ground zero) with commercial aircraft hijackings while the airforce and missile defence systems of the most powerful nation on earth stood down on the direct orders of richard cheney. (9/11 commission report).
the whole story of the killing of osama bin laden as outlined by the president of the u.s. and the subsequent changes in the story by various state department and congressional members are pure theatre and propagander.
Quote by Max777
load of bollox from somebodies interpretation of stats from the o.n.s.
fuel now a gallon. food up 20% local authority workers now recieving 90 days notice. high street sales down. 80 million litres of fuel less now being consumed. taxes up. pensions down. imf warns banks more in the shit than ever. bank bonuses up. war up. spending down. consumer tightening belts. growth in earnings down. financiers meet at bretton woods 11. dollar to lose status as reserve currency. oil prices up. gold and silver up. youth unemployment over a million. RESEARCH THESE NEWS HEADLINES
its a mathematical impossibility for unemployment to be down ! its total bullshit. sorry blue. x

So which theorem would prove this then Gulson?
THE THEORY OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
if you introduce austerity as a policy, which means hardship, a reduction in available credit (money), demand must fall and asset prices must fall. ask the greeks, irish, portugese, icelanders, spaniards et all. even the americans (largest consumer market in the world) are introducing austerity measures, cuts in education, pensions, medicare etc and there are already 40 million americans on food stamps.
2+2 = 4 or join up the dots.....a....b....c
get off the hostility trip and remember the manics....if you tolerate this then your children will be next
I see, no proof of your claim whatsover then, just like I'm still waiting for the proof regarding your claims about the Bank of England.
What was it you said? Ah yes.....load of bollox from someone's interpretation.....
read the times or telegraph financial pages and get all the proof you need or better still just carry on reading the sun and watch east enders. go back to sleep and dont bother engaging me. i have'nt a clue what i'm talking about and just make it up as i go along. we will see. consistent me.
For your information, I don't read the Sun and neither do I watch Eastenders.
As for not bothering to engage you, I will continue to do so as long as you keep coming to this forum and posting the absolute bollox that you do. Consistent? Absolutely, consistent bollox!
yea, i talk a load of bollox just like the warnings from mervyn king of the private bank of england, trichet of the private european central bank, the private bank of international settlements, the private international monetary fund and ben bernanke of the private federal reserve. i talk a load of bollox.......now, but if i'm right and your wrong down the road in time.....what will you say then ? it was a good guess ?
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load of bollox from somebodies interpretation of stats from the o.n.s.
fuel now a gallon. food up 20% local authority workers now recieving 90 days notice. high street sales down. 80 million litres of fuel less now being consumed. taxes up. pensions down. imf warns banks more in the shit than ever. bank bonuses up. war up. spending down. consumer tightening belts. growth in earnings down. financiers meet at bretton woods 11. dollar to lose status as reserve currency. oil prices up. gold and silver up. youth unemployment over a million. RESEARCH THESE NEWS HEADLINES
its a mathematical impossibility for unemployment to be down ! its total bullshit. sorry blue. x

So which theorem would prove this then Gulson?
THE THEORY OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
if you introduce austerity as a policy, which means hardship, a reduction in available credit (money), demand must fall and asset prices must fall. ask the greeks, irish, portugese, icelanders, spaniards et all. even the americans (largest consumer market in the world) are introducing austerity measures, cuts in education, pensions, medicare etc and there are already 40 million americans on food stamps.
2+2 = 4 or join up the dots.....a....b....c
get off the hostility trip and remember the manics....if you tolerate this then your children will be next
I see, no proof of your claim whatsover then, just like I'm still waiting for the proof regarding your claims about the Bank of England.
What was it you said? Ah yes.....load of bollox from someone's interpretation.....
read the times or telegraph financial pages and get all the proof you need or better still just carry on reading the sun and watch east enders. go back to sleep and dont bother engaging me. i have'nt a clue what i'm talking about and just make it up as i go along. we will see. consistent me.
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load of bollox from somebodies interpretation of stats from the o.n.s.
fuel now a gallon. food up 20% local authority workers now recieving 90 days notice. high street sales down. 80 million litres of fuel less now being consumed. taxes up. pensions down. imf warns banks more in the shit than ever. bank bonuses up. war up. spending down. consumer tightening belts. growth in earnings down. financiers meet at bretton woods 11. dollar to lose status as reserve currency. oil prices up. gold and silver up. youth unemployment over a million. RESEARCH THESE NEWS HEADLINES
its a mathematical impossibility for unemployment to be down ! its total bullshit. sorry blue. x

So which theorem would prove this then Gulson?
THE THEORY OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
if you introduce austerity as a policy, which means hardship, a reduction in available credit (money), demand must fall and asset prices must fall. ask the greeks, irish, portugese, icelanders, spaniards et all. even the americans (largest consumer market in the world) are introducing austerity measures, cuts in education, pensions, medicare etc and there are already 40 million americans on food stamps.
2+2 = 4 or join up the dots.....a....b....c
get off the hostility trip and remember the manics....if you tolerate this then your children will be next
load of bollox from somebodies interpretation of stats from the o.n.s.
fuel now a gallon. food up 20% local authority workers now recieving 90 days notice. high street sales down. 80 million litres of fuel less now being consumed. taxes up. pensions down. imf warns banks more in the shit than ever. bank bonuses up. war up. spending down. consumer tightening belts. growth in earnings down. financiers meet at bretton woods 11. dollar to lose status as reserve currency. oil prices up. gold and silver up. youth unemployment over a million. RESEARCH THESE NEWS HEADLINES
its a mathematical impossibility for unemployment to be down ! its total bullshit. sorry blue. x
Quote by GnV
So then, the World Police set weapons of mass destruction on the Libyan regime whilst they control people in their own Country in order to resist an uprising yet the London Metropolitan Police won't arrest people breaking into banks and trashing shops stealing their contents because it might cause a riot dunno
They stand idly by (as witnessed on SkyNews) whilst people fling ammonia filled light bulbs at them, spray paint all over their vehicles, throw smoke bombs and use sticks to break windows!
What's wrong with getting the biggest ugliest Officers available with big night sticks beating the crap out of these people, pulling off their masks and then breaking their legs?
When they complain that the need an ambulance, tell them it's too dangerous to put Health Service staff at risk and leave them to bleed to death or in agony on the pavement till it all calms down.
Why is it that we can go in hard with Gaddifi but we pussy around with our own version of non-peaceful anarchist demonstrators?
Wouldn't happen in Paris! The CRS would have beating the crap out of them as soon as they left the official route!!
it would happen in paris because like here, the police dont beat up police !
the puppets in westminster should cut all public sector pensions that the public sector workers paid a higher percentage of their salary into and give the balance to the banks who squandered zillions in bad loans, so that bankers can have record bonuses and millions in pensions. (trickle down theory)
all benefits and entitlements, state pensions and armed forces pay should be cut. all state capital projects should cease and there should be an increase in interest paid to the city for existing p.f.i. contracts. (cost and efficiency savings to make us more competitive)
all prisons should be privatised (sold to the city), all prisoners should be organised into work gangs and prison officers put on the minimum wage. (profit centres)
all armed forces personel should provide their own boots and uniforms and employed under private (the city) agency conditions. as and when required to steal natural resources and kill johnny foriegners. (to be notified by e-mail)
all debt, foriegn and domestic, should be passed from the corrupt financial institutions to the corrupt politicians (government) and on to the citizenry, their children and grandchildren. (they never had it so good anyway).
these measures will put the world financial and monetary system (which is broken) right and increase aggregate demand and we will all benefit thereafter.
REPUDIATE THE DEBT. ITS A FRAUD AND NO AMOUNT OF AUSTERIRTY WILL FIX THE DEBT CRISIS.
THESE POLICIES BEING IMPOSED UPON US WILL BRING POVERTY, DESPARATION, WAR AND GENECIDE !
stop blaming your neighbour and wake up.
i think every benefit and entitlement should be stopped, all education should be paid for privately or you dont get any, same for health care, uni fees to be incrementaly increased to 500% higher than now, students to pay 20% interest, state pension to be stopped and all taxed paid to the banks and bankers bonuses to be increased alongside the retirement age.
any country with oil should be demonised as al cia-qader, bombed back to the dark age and taken over. and we should pay a gallon for our blood soaked fuel. other countries like iceland, greece, ireland and portugal, in that order, who's banks lost money, should pass the debt over to their taxpayers and suffer austerity for being so wreckless and their retirement age raised.
as a solution, pauperising people with cuts and inflation should raise demand and get us all back to work. worldwide. great idea of mine init.
there is absolutely no value in criticising someone's verse other than to divert attention away from the issue's being raised and i'm very glad that some of you have pointed this out.
banking and finance institutions created this debt crisis with credit they did not have but now rob from the people, their children and grandchildren.
the sooner people realise, and they will very quickly, that they are being driven into paupery and desparation by a monetary system that is broken and taken to war to die in the names of humanitarian and anti-terrorism bullshit, the better.
it is not joe blogs on 20, 30, 40 or a hundred grand a year that made bad bets in the billions or even trillions that they did not have (margin) that we, the taxpayer, has been made the debtor of this ponzi scheme by both new labour and the libcons.
if the government can instruct the bank of england to print more money, then who the phuck do we owe it to ? the central bank of the u.k., the bank of england, is a private bank, owned by private shareholders and it lends money created out of thin air, AT INTEREST, to the government/treasury/taxpayer.
thomas jefferson wrote :- private banks are more dangerous than standing armies.
hope my grammar is crap !
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i think people earning or getting peanuts should get less so the people earning millions should get more if only to wake the phukers earning peanuts up. we got money for wars but none for us. wake the fuck up will yah.
if you tolerate this then our children will be next.

So apart from constantly bleating about this topic on Swinging websites, what else are you doing to wake the "phuckers" up?so i bleat on a site with current affairs as a subject. no, i dont bleat, i am consistent. as for other mediums, i do, frequently.
sorry that in your opinion, "i dont know what i'm taking about" and ramble on consistently about the same subject but if you have evidence other than media spin, hard factual evidence that the world economy is picking up like " marks and spencers sales are up 0.1 %" under conditions where food prices alone are up 30 % and fuel up 20 % then you are cleverer than i.
max, i do not understand your hostility unless it is that you do not want to face the truth, because you know where it is leading to, complete collapse.
i beleive that from your previous hostile attitude to most of my previous post's that you do know what i'm talking about, do concur and are very aware of the processes that are taking place but find it hard to accept. this is the one, this is the mother of all crisies and regardless of media spin, double dips and all that jive, we aint seen nufin yet and you probably know it. so, lets get off the personal hostility and discuss. the bond market is in turmoil, japans industrial capacity is fucked, portugal, iceland, ireland and greece are fucked. states in the u.s. are insolvent. major banks are insolvent. most fiat paper currencies are in freefall while gold and silver head for the moon. there is taxpayers money (more debt) for the too big to fail and war but less for joe public and small bussiness. fact ! we are all in the same boat ! why are you attacking me ? in who's interest's do you serve ? us ? come on. regards.
i think people earning or getting peanuts should get less so the people earning millions should get more if only to wake the phukers earning peanuts up. we got money for wars but none for us. wake the fuck up will yah.
if you tolerate this then our children will be next.
look john, you gotta understand. there is this worldwide terrorist organisation called al quader (data base in arabic, of the mujahadeen recruits used to defeat the ruskies in afganistanbananistan by the c.i.a), who wos on the american side led by osama bin liner (of the wealthy bin liner family of saudi arabia and share holders in the carlise group along with the bush family), who at sum point changed sides and decided to attack uncle sam. from bin liners cave in tora bora (that warren of caves the size of a small town, in the mountains of tora bora afganistanbanistan thats so secret, its never been found, bit like the weapons of mass deception), bin liner, trained and directed 17 saudi's and one syrian to fly commercial aircraft into the twin towers and the pentagon.
whilst norad was on an exercise in canada, these sneaky phukers carried out their evil deed led by mohammed atta. they knew it wos im cos they found his green saudi passport at ground zero and thats why the americans invaded afganistan bananistan and they are still there lukin for er... alawaki ?
there are sum con spiracy theorist who say that a pipeline is being built from the north of afganistanbananistan down through pakistan to the sea but i cant believe it. they say that kissenger and brezinski formulated this foriegn policy in the late nineties but i dont believe it. the west is bringing democracy to eurasia and carrying out a humanitarian mission, not protectin poppy fields. abu grave wos just done by a few over zealous soldiers and not policy from the top down. guantanomo bay prison is for enemy combatants and the patriot act in america and anti-terrorist act in the u.k. is to keep us safe. war is peace and ignorance is strenght.
we gotta ave austerity cos austerity is best for the economy and all of us in the long run. we will find the money (not from bankers bonuses) to flatten libya and protect the civilians just like the americans did when they flattened fallujah.
hope this clears thing up for ya john.
this level of military operation, land sea and air has been months in the planning. we are now aware that the s.a.s. have been on the ground, that a "rebel" fighter was shot down, an american bomber had "mechanical failure" and crashed. its pilots rescued and the rescuing helicopter opened up on civilians, that gadaffi straffing his own was a lie, that journalists being used as human shields was a lie, that gadaffi was on his way to venezuala, on his way to zibawi were lies, that the rebels are supported by al ciaquader. ffs, the first casualty of war is truth. just a note, the tunisian govt forces did open fire on civilians, the police in egypt did, the yemenis and saudis are and so are the bahrainians.
this is not about humanitarian protection of civilians. its about stealing oil and natural resources and imposing another PRO western stooge in control. the chaos in the middle east is a pre cursor to an attack on iran, the prevention of russia, china and india from obtaining those resources and the beginning of world war 111. stop believing everything you read in the papers or see on telivision and start thinking critically. mark these words. this is the one.