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Quote by starlightcouple
The Govt wont be happy until they control every aspect of our existence, they want us tucked up in our homes in an evening where they can snoop on our internet actvity, monitor our mobile phone calls and see what we're viewing via our subscription services ( sky , virgin ) , they'll know what we're spending our money on via credit ref agency computers talking to their computers, they'll know how much money we have to spend with bank computers talking to their computers and they'll know who we're emailing and what we're discussing.

Higher fuel prices will eventually keep the majority of us at home, just what the Govt ordered.
Some of those responsible for the fuel protests from a few years ago have had their lives picked apart since by way of investigations by Hmrc to keep them busy and presumably out of the way.
Conspiracy theory? possibly but one thing is for sure, something will eventually have to give.
Andy


he knew as he predicted did'nt predict it. he was in on it. read huxley
Quote by Bluefish2009
Hands off whose land ? are the government planning to input compulsory purchase orders to build whatever it is they plan to build ? they do this a lot in the towns and cities so I just wondered if this is what this thread is about, or are they just planning to relax planning laws and utilise the land owned by ALL the taxpayers of the UK to make more room for our expanding population.
Has anyone living in the Countryside ever objected to the masses of building, compulsory purchase orders, land fill or anything else that happens in our urban areas, why if we need the land for other purposes should we not be allowed to use it, is there a law that says it is only for those in that area to dictate what is done with it, don't get me wrong I love the countryside and would love to keep it as it is, but needs as must and I am a realist, if we need it then we need it just as things are used in urban areas. Lately there are a few threads about those living in sparcely populated areas, well those living in urban areas have problems too, take fuel, it may cost more in rural areas but when it's in the tank you get to use it moving around not use it like urbanites do stuck in traffic jams for hours on end, slow crawling to and from work everyday, changing gear and stopping n starting every few minutes making consumption higher for like for like distance journeys. We have health hazards in pollution and germ transference abounding.
People in the countryside have the option to move to the urban areas, people in urban areas do not have the option to move to the countryside unless there are new planning laws as are being implemented now. Food for thought perhaps

Build away then until your heart is content, short sighted in my view though.
The population can not continue to expand for ever. I was born in the countryside but sadly unable to afford to live there now, had to move to a more urban area, but I would still not support short sighted planning laws just to get a house in the countrysideblue, the population in europe is not expanding, it's contracting. there will be no building expansion until the creators of credit, banks, begin to lend again at a greater rate than the contraction of credit. your/our land ? the countryside ? soon, none of us will be able to afford to go there.
good way to blame the workers for economic woes. government may want the tanker drivers to strike ?
iran has never attacked another country
according to the international watchdog, the international atomic energy authority and the c.i.a., iran is not creating the nuclear ability to create atomic weapons but solely peaceful electricity productive capacity.
iran is surrounded by nuclear powers. america in afghanistan and every other bananistan, india and pakistan but most of all israel that reportedly has 300 nuclear weapons and refuses to sign up to the non proliferation treaty which iran has.
israel has bombed gaza many times, bombed and invaded lebanon many times, bombed syria and bombed the uss liberty during or rather at the beginning of the 1967 war. it even attacked and killed people on an aid ship delivering vital humanitarian aid to gaza.
deliberately, haveyourdinnerdad was misquoted. he never said anything of the sort about wiping israel, i mean palestine, off the face of the earth.
the war mongering and arab springs are products of psyops created in tel aviv, wall street and the city of london to overthrow existing regimes in the middle east to secure oil, gas and minerals for the west but more importantly, to prevent india and china from obtaining the same.
the figure of 9 thousand dead in syria as a result of the syrian regimes crack down on peaceful ? protesters is pure fabrication. the syrian free army is the priduct of western intelligence and special forces.
the danger does not come from iran, but western agression that the whole of the world can plainly see because the are not so inundated with with the propaganda and media control that exists here.
the greatest danger comes from a false flag (gulf of tonkin) incident perpetrated by the west/israel. not iran.
when america nato and israel attack iran, petrol and diesel will be £5 a litre if we are lucky. anyway, more tax is needed to cut family allowance and invalidity beneft, cut pensions and drive up the cost of food and energy. we never had it so good.
dave says iran has got missiles that can hit london so we gotta send them peace bombs. obama (barry soereto) says they gotta bomb syria to create safe havens for the rebels and he is going to arm them ?
v.a.t. is only 20% income tax and national insurance only comes to 30% ish and carbon tax on gas and electricity is only 1.5%. my local authority is only putting up the community charge by !0% and inheritance tax is only 40% and me road fund licence (tax) only goes up 20 quid or so a year. and bankers who from off shore holding companies pay no tax and enjoy record bonuses for fucking up the international banking system have had to be bailed out from us taxpayers cos otherwise the whole system would come crashing down. mmmm scrachin me ed, how does all that work then ? must be them pesky foreigners agen.
as i said before. you aint seen nothin yet.
i think farting in lifts, front and second row should definately be made illegal. i played eight and i can tell you all, it's worse than being stuck in a lift full of vegetarians.
without reference to any statistic other than cash in circulation, it must be that the general quality of life of the vast majority is falling and the vast majority of assets are falling in value. to the powers that be, people are assets too. mmmm ?
Quote by GnV
One has to ask HnS, who regulates the regulators?
S&P have got it wrong before, it seems.

would this be the standard and poors who rated, sliced and diced sub prime mortgages as triple A rated containing some form of secure value, that were sold to banks and bondholders around the world, that were not only worthless but toxic debt ? the same rating agency that rated lehman brothers and bear stearns to be sufficiently capitalised to meet there liabilities ? the same rating agency that earned millions in fee's from goldman sachs for auditing greece as having met the conditions to enter the euro ?
not the same rating agency surely ? not a rating agency downgrading sovereign states so that with the increased risk the interest on bond sales would rise giving a higher return to bondholders like their client goldman sachs surely ?
banks and rating agencies are not corrupt are they ? they would'nt force countries in the eurozone into debt just to steal germany's reserves would they, by forcing germany to underwrite that debt ? not the agency that rated M F Global as AAA or long term capital management as AAA ?
surely banking and finance is not that corrupt that it would make crazy bet's knowing that politicians who's election costs they fund would pass all their private debts onto the taxpayers at cost of austerty so they could enjoy the greatest of bonuses for failure ?
standard and poors, fitch, moody's and all the rest of them are stoolies of banking and finance who pays them and are just as corrupt as all the other fuckers in banking and finance. it's all a con.
the city of london who will finance hs2 at interest and those that can afford to use it will get past the soup kitchens on the way quicker.
it has nothing to do with improving infrastructure or competetiveness or has to do with creating credit, lending it at higher than market rate of interest, to the taxpayer for private theft while neglecting schools, hospitals, roads, bridges and needed repairs to existing infrastucture for PROFIT for the few.
not just goldman sachs. banks rule the world by owning politicians left and right. as i have said before, the palace of westminster is a theatre full of lying, cheating theives on the bankers payrole. they will vote for cuts and wars and blame the people for their failures setting people against people.
and its true, everyones pensions and savings will disappear. get off watching x factor football and coronation st and wake up.
the russians have stationed nuclear weapons in syria to protect their intersts in the med, the chinese have warned the americans to stop attacking pakistan and iran has put its military on a war footing to defend itself from western attack which is already taking place.
cameron is not interested in the well being of the british people and europe, only the interests of the financials in the city. his masters.
neither. glass steagal imediately. a firewall between retail and commercial banks. ban and refute all derivitives imediately. outlaw fraud imediately.
get out of afghanistan, iraq, libya, syria, pakistan imediately or perish in austerity or thermo nuclear war. ban bankers from taking over governments imediately.
nah, the profitable part given away ! where did virgin money get the money from ? like the glaziers at manchester united, they mortgaged it against the bank's assets and left the taxpayer with the debts. it's a con but dont worry, your pension is still safe ?
Quote by Max777

afracom is designed to militarily prevent china from obtaining minerals and energy/fuel from trade with africa. when you increase the amount of money, you deflate it's value. elementary fiscal principles max. all currencies are falling in value correspondingly with there increasing volume. china is therefore already under attack. that's what the occupation/wars/destruction of eurasia is all about.
but not to worry, i dont know what i'm talking about, just make it all up or troll it off the net or from those web sites you claim i adhere to.
Quote by GnV
snip...
Also, a huge portion of the West's debt is owed to China and I don't see the West taking China on anytime soon.

Interesting thought there.
When 'dubbya' was standing for re-election (his second term) there was a great deal of controversy in the States (I was there at the time) about his ability such as is the discussion now about Obama.
The general consensus at the time was that the American people never vote a President out of office if there's a war going on.
Currently, (other than few bits left over from the last Administration) there is no war going on so BA is exposed.
He has 12 months to start one - hands up with suggestions as to where he might decide to start one.
North Korea? That would get the Chinese going somewhat :grin:
john McCain recently added china and russia to the list......
no wars going on at the moment in afghanistan, iraq, libya, syria, yemen, somalia, northern pakistan....drums beating over israels green light to bomb iran....i must be dreamin.... the west's indebtedness to china and the brics is being inflated away, thats why china is buying gold to preserve is dollar reserves.
interesting script but poorly stage managed. beware greeks bearing referendum (democracy). highly unlikely unless it's just part of the blame game. must watch the next episode of "the contrived world economic monetary crisis unfolding". it will be on every night from now on. i do like the characters being played by the selected politicians, they do make me laugh, especially when they forget their lines and drop things out of the bag.
lazy phukin greeks, irish, portugese, spaniards, italians, icelandic's, belgians,french and british. they all borrowed too much money (must have got it from mars) and now cant pay it back to whoever lent it them wherever they got it from. musta bin mars or anuva planet. give em all cuts and austerity. that'll teach em to live within their means.......i feel anuva war comin on..... ah yes, keep watchin that telievision, the way outa this mess is to av anuva war and destroy all that debt (and the debtors). ....lets blame the fussiewussies cos they is sittin on oil......
oh and just a post script, you phuckers av gorra av austerity to pay for the international monetary crisis created by design by a small number of international banking families. as the gaff blown by the b.b.c. "governments dont run the world, goldman sachs does" in the interests of it's profit not you, you debt slaves. now shut up and watch the telievision and when we need you to pay for the destruction of syria, algeria and iran or any of the coming wars we have already decided upon, we will programme you to believe it's a good idea to bomb the bastards and pay for it with your taxes and young blood.
but i dont know what i'm talking about so dont take me seriously.
Quote by kaz_allen
its not just unison on strike on that day, im on strike that day for a different union. what are u saying here, that us people who have paid our pensions for years should just say, oh yea pay more, work later in life, n get less? somehow dont seem fair to me!
Allen.

but, the muppets, sorry puppets (selected politicians) borrowed money created out of thin air at interest from the private bank of england and gave it to the private banks to stop them going bust and pay record bonuses.
to pay it back from tax revenue, there will not be enough to pay pensions as was contractually agreed when the contributions were taken. this applies to the 98% only. you are too small to save you slave. now carry on working or unemployed till your 99 if you dont die first, then you might get a pension, whatever it will be worth by then.
but dont worry, i dont know what i'm talking about.
i wonder what jesus would have done in the place of worship ? would he have thrown the bankers (trustees) out of the city ? or would he throw out the debt slaves ? diversions of health and safety, well heeled do gooders or not, lazy bastards and dale farm activists or not is deliberately, like the servile mainstream media does, avoiding the issues being raised by whoever the protesters are.
i thought, obviously mistakenly, that foxy initiated the thread for discussion about the issues being raised by the "occupy movement" ? perhaps i got it wrong again as i dont know what i'm talking about.
Quote by Bluefish2009
While I agree that man made global warming has been massively over egged, I do think the rate of human population growth and enviromental degradation is unsustainable in the long term. The issue requires more urgent attention than global warming and climate change which has acted not only as a distraction but also a smoke screen.
I am not going to be getting deeper involved in this one, a debate where people simply quote the dailymail and americandaily is not somewhere I choose to be.
The mail does not even have a reference to the full text of Osbournes speech anywhere on its site, in its little rant it even uses points he raises in it without attributing the comments to him.
I do get involved in discussions on current affairs, philosophy and politics elsewhere, I always forget what happens on SH. People quote newspapers at each other.
Newspapers are mostly full of shit, evidenced by the fact this article was written by richard north, he thought this was a good idea to add on a blog, despite having used the same rascist terms before:
The starkest fact of the week – according to Booker – is that, while the stoods are being stuffed for £2.9 billion to keep the education budget down, £2.9 billion is precisely the sum we are being forced to dole out to the jungle bunnies so that they can buy windmills, solar panels and new Mercedes cars for their rulers and their entourages.

He was caught because after he edited his text after one vile rant in an online discussion people started to take screenshots and quote his posts imediatley to prevent him hiding it again.
I do like reading the apologies newspapers have to make when they base articles on his work though ;)
Have a search - they are not hard to find.
I sign off from the CA forum and stick to the cafe, discussions on the serious I will have somewhere serious.
waveglobal warming or climate change due to mans activity is hocus pocus bollox just like swine flue epidemic and weapons of mass destruction in iraq and gaddaffi is bombing and straffing peaceful protesters. oh, the ice will melt and the seas will rise. how unscientific is that ?
overpopulation ? the worlds population is falling and humanity's ability to increase in numbers is soley due to man's ability to raise his energy flux density
Quote by Big_Fraser
The only route to a sustainable future is population control, it doesnt matter how 'green' we go, the worlds population is increasing at an unsustainable rate.
I have no answers regarding how this can be done, but if we dont control growth nature might do it for us - with potentially catastrophic results.

control growth ? what growth ? industrial activity worldwide has dropped 30% in the last 2 and a half years. climate change (the new catch phrase) was known as global warming until the university of east anglia was caught corrupting the data which proved global cooling.
the earth has always undergone climate change and always will do. "the sun" not murdochs comic is the overwhelming influence not mans activity.
the earth's population is soley dependent upon man's ability to harness and control energy. "energy flux density per square kilometre". if you want to go the route of population control as do the ruling elite, someone has to choose who is to live and who is to die.
the global warming bollox was designed to achieve exactly that. if you reduce the carbon footprint of a continent where the majority of people live at subsistance level, you will kill them by the million. billions will die as a consequence of the global economic collapse as well and that will put paid to all the crap about the worlds population increasing at an unsustainable level. nonsense anyway
Quote by Dave__Notts
So what you state is the truth? If so it would be very easy to prove...........or are you saying everyone and everything lies except you dunno
You state it, you prove it. It ain't me who has to prove your claims
Dave_Notts
listen and hear it straight from the horses mouth of a 4 star u.s. general on youtube :- 4 star general talks the truth major general wesley clark. it has all been planned well in advance. meanwhile i will do your research work for you and find something on libyan civilian casualties
Can't you supply a link? If you wish me to see something then link it.
By the way...........he is a politician. He is a retired 4 star general and has not held a command since 2000.
Once again, supply the evidence of your outlandish claim. I never claimed anything about how many casualties have been caused in Libya, except to see that the casualty reports have not been that high. You have, so it is your own reasearch.......not mine
Dave_Nottsdave, there are thousands of reports in a multitude of foreign press reports from the middle east, china, russia, australia, canada, africa, india and indonesia. i am not puter friendly enough to be able to get a link up on this site. if i could, i would. there is nothing outlandish in my claims and in the course of time it will become apparent to you. the hyped, totally biased media reporting must be obvious to many. even the bbc ran an article one morning showing libyans celebrating in green square in support of the rebels but the crowed shown were flying the flag of india with the wheel in the middle. ABSOLUTE FACT. no reference to it since and no apology for misrepresentation. fact and available from beginning to end on the net.
you have been hoodwinked. wesley clark is an opportunist as is petreaus but sometimes they blow the gaff (cat out of the bag) out of ego and arrogance.
with an open mind, go research for yourself and you will find absolute hardcore material evidence that will prove to you that what has been sold to us as a humanitarian exercise is nothing of the sort and many tens of thousands of libyan civilians have been killed. regards
Quote by gulsonroad30664
So what you state is the truth? If so it would be very easy to prove...........or are you saying everyone and everything lies except you dunno
You state it, you prove it. It ain't me who has to prove your claims
Dave_Notts
listen and hear it straight from the horses mouth of a 4 star u.s. general on youtube :- 4 star general talks the truth major general wesley clark. it has all been planned well in advance. meanwhile i will do your research work for you and find something on libyan civilian casualtiesyoutube...BBC Bombshell: Cameron, Sarkozy & Obama Train, Fund, Arm, Join..... 50 FKIN THOUSAND LIBYANS KILLED BY NATO BOMBING IN THE NAME OF PROTECTING CIVILIANS ! when did our governments give a fuck about civilians ? regards, the tin hat
Quote by Dave__Notts
So what you state is the truth? If so it would be very easy to prove...........or are you saying everyone and everything lies except you dunno
You state it, you prove it. It ain't me who has to prove your claims
Dave_Notts
listen and hear it straight from the horses mouth of a 4 star u.s. general on youtube :- 4 star general talks the truth major general wesley clark. it has all been planned well in advance. meanwhile i will do your research work for you and find something on libyan civilian casualties
Quote by Dave__Notts

55,000 dead civilians in tripoli from nato bombing...associated press, reuters, press tv, rt.

Any link to these sources stating 55,000 died in the bombings, as I done a quick search and found nothing of the sort.
Quote by gulsonroad30664
northern pakistan being bombed by drones, somalia, afghanistan, iraq, libya being bombed. algeria being threatened by the al qaeder nato backed ntc rebels and syria being destabilised by western special forces and western created psyops. yemen being bombed by us drones and iran being constantly demonised in the western media and threatened by america and israel. what is not underway ?

Is this Libya?
Dave_Nottsdo a long search dave. all that we were told by the mainstream media demonising the gaddafi regime and praise for the rebels was lies to justify regime change and theft.
all pensions, private, public and state pension funds have been stolen. by raising the retirement age till after your dead, which, incrementaly over the coming years they will do, will also ensure you will get fuck all and starve if you manage to live long enough and thats without taking account of inflation that will make anything you may recieve worthless.
Quote by Dave__Notts
the excuse to murder tens of thousands of libyan civilians was to protect civilians through sanctions and a no fly zone. what a load of bollox.

Has NATO bombings killed tens of thousands in Libya? Is there a link to any credible source to back this claim?
Or have you ended the statement with what you think of your statement?
Quote by gulsonroad30664
world war 111 is underway.

This made me laugh. Since we have had WWI and WWII then it is an obvious statement that next would be WWIII...............since we couldn't skip it and go to WWIV
Now I would be impressed if you gave a year that this is will happen, as none of your predictions have come to fruition yet.
Dave_Notts
55,000 dead civilians in tripoli from nato bombing...associated press, reuters, press tv, rt.
northern pakistan being bombed by drones, somalia, afghanistan, iraq, libya being bombed. algeria being threatened by the al qaeder nato backed ntc rebels and syria being destabilised by western special forces and western created psyops. yemen being bombed by us drones and iran being constantly demonised in the western media and threatened by america and israel. what is not underway ?