Oh no its bound to be the unvailing of an orange rose at Chelsea Flower Show that has petals that taste like Tango!!
The point is it will be bad for morale in the England dressing room (not so much Chelsea) of the England team half could be Terrys mates and team mates and the rest Wayne Bridges mates, as in all things in life sides will be taken an opinions spouted, this will inevitably cause a split in the dressing room,Terry the team captain will then not be able to raise morale as he is to blame for the said split.
England will then play far worse than normal, get knocked out of the world cup as normal, Terry will get the blame and end up an English hate figure like Beckham etc for a short while, the manager will get sacked and get shit loads of compo, the players will keep earning 120k a week to kick a bag of wind around a field and then the next overpaid over rated wind kicker will get caught with his dick inside something he should not be, or snorting aspirin off a hookers arse hole (or John Terry same thing as an arsehole)and then it all starts again.
I don't think he has anything to be forgiven for. He along with America and most of Europe, allocated troops to remove with, most thought was a threat to the western world. He took decisions of what he thought was right. Thats what leaders do !! The fact that the aftermath has not been as easy as they had planned for....is what people are really complaining about. The biggest mistake and lesson to be learnt as he said himself, is that the after war planning, was inept !! Don't forget the people of this country that voted Tony Blair in three times !!![/quot
Very good reply Dean and well put, i agree with absolutely everything you say.
There are many many lazy people about and i have actually seen people in Sainsburys here asked to leave because they were still in pj`s, its usually the 5 kids by 5 dads brigade or the chavs here though.
Well done Tesco and i so hope you go on to rule the world!!
Did you know that 4000 chavs a year die from alchohol abuse from cheap booze bought at Tesco`s............................ every little helps!!!
Cassie
It has been on the news today that "punishment" attacks or "knee cappings" have increased in the past year in Ireland.
These attacks are apparently carried out by "terrorist groups" on people who have misbehaved within the community as a warning to them and the rest of the community.
Figures also show that the areas and communities where these "attacks" have been known to occur that crime is at a very very low level and in particular youth crime is nearly none existent.
Now call me heartless but to me this is a much better punishment for the "chavs" and youth of today than any ASBO and although extreme works well, and just proves that although less extreme the now long gone good telling off from the local bobby and a clip round the ear, instead of all this mamby pamby shit we have nowadays should have been left to carry on and then maybe "respect" would not be a "chav" tag line and Britain would not be as "broken"?
Cassie
I can`t believe my favourite Stones song has not got a mention, even though i am too young to remember it on release i love "Mothers Little Helper" don`t know why i just do.
I notice a little sub thread started about people should get paid if they can not get into work and that people should not take unnecessary risks to get to work etc so i ask you to consider this.
1)If a survey was done asking all employers in the country about who got to work and who did not, then it would show a massive per centage difference between those people who got paid and those who did not attending, is this down to loyalty or the fact that the people who do get paid think it is there right to have the time off and take the piss at there employers expense regardless of wether they can get in due to weather or they just fancy a day at the beach cos its sunny as has been shown in the past.
2) What if all the nurses and firemen etc took the opinion of why should i risk myself slipping and falling on the ice just to get to work, (i actually know of 1 nurse who worked a night shift and because the day staff were delayed worked on an extra 3 hours until they arrived) but wouldn`t we be in the shit if they shut up shop cos its too cold or snowy?!?!?
3) Just cos you have not seen a gritter does not mean it has not been there, these things do move you know and the grit only stays visible for a short length of time so just because you can not see it does not mean its not there, and again why is it too dangerous for some people to get to work yet they expect the council workers to be in "risking there lives" to grit roads and paths? last year i actually witnessed a gritting wagon go down an embankment and tip up because it skidded on the icy roads it was trying to grit.
4) As pointed out road grit is only at its optimum for upto 90 minutes after being spread, how many thousands of miles of roads are there in the Uk and how many gritters and drivers and loaders would be needed to grit all the roads all the time to stop people moaning that they have not seen a gritter in there area for the sake of maybe 4 weeks of weather every 2 years or so?
Alot of the comments regarding this are very selfcentered and the "why should i put myself out" aspect is very clear, yet the expectations of other people putting themselves out to make there lives easier are extremely high.
How many of these people who could not get to work because it was too dangerous then went out sledging,snow balling or just general messing about in this oh so dangerous weather!?!?
Its time people just got on with it and stopped moaning and stopped pointing the finger at other people because they have overly high and sometimes ridiculous expectations and are un willing to adjust there lives even slightly for a short period of time, as someone quoted the councils all had prior warning of the weather, well so did we, so get out of bed earlier and set off to work earlier, or stay with a work mate who lives nearer to work instead of expecting others to sort you out and make your life easier when you can not be arsed!!!
Nice post Kenty and welcome back you were missed!!
I must say i agree in most parts with your post especially the bit about the "softy South" it is very very noticable that the only time bad weather here in the North ever gets mentioned on the "main news" is when the South has got it too.
I live in the Yorkshire Dales in the middle of nowhere and have to travel 25 miles to work every day (new job now) and i must say that our local council guys have done a fantastic job both ploughing and gritting the roads and i have not missed a single day yet and nor have any of the 100+ staff i work with because of the snow.
Our gritters have got ploughs on the front and grit from the back but many of our roads are either too narrow to fit the plough or too narrow due to the "Range Rover Crew" that cant drive there 4x4 in any weather having dumped them at the side of the road!
My little ones school did close but because the heating was not good enough to raise the temp sufficiently after the nights had been -12 to -15 so understandable.
Our supermarket staff though because of where they are did struggle to fully staff as many of the checkout ladies are farmers wives etc who really and genuinely could not make although i did see one lady who works at the local co -op being dropped off on the back of a quad bike so good effort!
I thought this was a tip for "sports person of the year award" and was aghast that you thought Ryan Giggs might win 2 years on the run, twas a big enough shock last year!!!
He must have decided at the beggining to keep count for the number to be so precise, so was it like a hobby and where did he keep track of it cos he cant have much headboard left!
Right i quote " its about control plain and simple" what is?
How is a body scanner controlling us?
How are anti terrorist measures controlling us?
How does cctv control us (apart from making the crims and scallies think twice about the next crime they are gonna commit)?
Some of you are always spouting about how we are being controlled and ruled how exactly? Nothing has changed in my life in the last 10 years no one is controlling me i still go where i want with freedom, i still do what i want with freedom, i am still supporting who i want with freedom, saying what i want with freedom and no one is trying to stop me or control me to do otherwise cos i have a mind of my own and i am law abiding, ok i may be recorded doing it, so what i am still doing what i want when i want how i want and all legally, if i was doing it illegally and they catch me on cam then thats job done and i should not have been doing it in the first place.
What would happen if all the security measures and anti terror measures that are "controlling us" were removed? i sure dont want to be here to find out!!!
The body scanner may or may not have worked in this case but in how many other cases would it work and i am sure it will be adapted to show more now that the weaknesses have been shown up, or maybe if its not working and everything else is also a failure we should just bring in full strip search with internal inspection for everyone!!!!
I have a mind of my own and opinions of my own and even in the job i do i am only "controlled" by the rules and confines of that job, or are you suggesting we should not have any rules at all because they are controlling us, we need rules we need regulations and no matter what you think,and if we did not have them the place would be a much bigger mess than they are now!!
Now all i will add is i hope Kenty and Flower are back soon cos the place is dull without them, and this place needs livening up by people with opinions instead of the sheep who all form the same opinion and then systematically gang up on the one person who dares to question them.
Nah no spin i know it as fact and can you prove otherwise?
So GNV come on then you are always so anti government and anti this and that, you say there are so many better ways to stop the threats and terrorist attack (although it appears to me something must be working or else we would have had some more major incidents) let hear your fool proof ideas that are so much better for us????
Thought this was a discussion about body scanners but obviously i am mistaken, its a get at the governments for trying to keep us safe thread.
Of course those of you who think there is no threat will do so until you or a family member is maimed or killed in either a bombing or chemical attack, just because the so called terrorists have not managed to do anything thank god (or allah or whoever you follow) does not mean its not happening or going to happen, there is an awful lot our security prevent or stop that we will never know about.
In the last 10 years my life has not been changed just because of cctv or better security at airports or any other measures brought in to help look after us, all its meant is that i have to arrive a little earlier at an airport and as for cctv if your not doing anything you should not be doing then whys the worry??
Body scanners are a good idea and the only people who should be complaining about them are the people with bad intentions, so what if someone sees an outline of our naked bodies or even more detail, we are all the same to look at just some bigger or smaller we were all born naked and given the chance we would all get naked either with one person or a group for recreational purposes at the click of a finger.
Hi Kaz on facebook you maybe get loads of friends requests from people who are also on cafeworld or farmville because the more neighbours you have the bigger the cafe or farm you can have.
However i am sure on swinging heaven you get loads of friends requests cos your as sexy as fuck and everyone wants ya !X!X!X!X
Andy
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