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mazandden
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Female, 43
Straight Male, 48
UK

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OK, there was a 'just' missing from my last post- I meant that I'm a swinger, and not here 'just' for the heated debates of the forum, otherwise, I would go elsewhere.
But as a swinger wanting to get to know lots of people and the different views that they bring, I usually enjoy these debates, and i want to take part in all the forum posts, not just the 'fluffy' ones, but not when they're monopolised with dribble and one line digs.
If the posts actually were healthy debates, I would enjoy them, but at the moment, they're not. They're a playground battle zone between two people.
Where's the fun in that for everyone else? dunno
Instead, we have to weed through the arguments to get to the posts that don't have a hidden agenda.
Quote by jaymar
Maybe this can be a thread for the two of you to get your issues out and move on from the bickering for once? Seeing as you have a thread for free speech- let rip...

I have been involved in many threads without any bickering at all, it is only when others who are hell bent on causing problems, do these very problems occur.
Lets just keep to the original subject.
No, you're both as bad - six of one and half a dozen of the other. And I think it's very fair to say that it's annoying the hell out of a lot of members. Free speech notwithstanding, you're both spoiling the forum.
I agree, and in turn keeps those members in the 'can't be bothered to even read this shit anymore' frame of mind. rolleyes
Believe it or not but I have had over 40 mails from people asking me not to stop posting. What is really funny is there are 15 from people who I have never seen post a thing.
So whilst I agree there are some that get the arse, a lot of others dont....Can't please all of the people, all of the time.
If people can find forums where there are not heated discussions, then maybe that is the way to go for some? dunno
That was NOT aimed at you either Mar. x
I'm not aware of anyone being asked to stop posting, I haven't bothered looking at many of the threads lately and this one is one of the reasons why, but I have to add, it's the same 'very intelligent' people arguing all the time, it's long since past the stage of just heated discussions, it's now about scoring points against each other.
Everyone loves heated debates and discussions, but this is now beyond ridiculous.
Get over yourselves and have a Happy Christmas! wink
freck n jm, well said,
Kent n peanut- sort it out.
Kent, although i tend to disagree with a lot of your posts, I usually really enjoy reading them. Normally, you put across a well worded, coherent argument that gets me thinking, but of late I have to say it has come down the 'oneupmanship'.This means that the majority that want to join in with said 'heated discussions', don't because they're fed up of being stuck in the middle of the playground.
And no, i won;t go elsewher, i'm on this site because I'm a swinger, not because i want to spend my evening having heated discussions, the forum is just part of the community- it's that that i want to be part of, not the heated debates, and i feel not many people are getting that at the moment.
Our first was unplanned, and very spontaneous and in a hot tub in a very random place in edinburgh- and - WOW!!!! We won't forget in a hurry!!!!
Our next was an arranged meet, and I am trying very hard to forget all about it... oh dear....
sorry to hear that sass pm box always open... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
But just why do the public like them and want to vote for them? Because that's precisely the reason they were chosen for the show.
They were headhunted by producers long before, who already had the show planned out.
The audition process is really just to find the stupid funny awful singer acts etc, and all of them audition in front of producers first, and then are selected for the TV appearance in front of the 'real' judges.
The votes don't need to be rigged, they are rigged long before by clever TV editing and clever choice of participants and clever media write ups. The audience will always vote for the ones the producers want.
I'm sure this series had the outrage over a contestant being voted off- I can't think of a better way for the producers to pull in a bigger audience that to manufacture such a drama!
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Obama to win! :bounce:
What are you all talking about?
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Blonde you crack me up! lol
I don't think there was ever any doubt these shows are a fix?! They're planned from day one, the winners sourced well in advance.
Having been asked to do similar via dancing, I would never participate and don't bother watching for that reason (well, apart from strictly!)
M xx
Maybe this can be a thread for the two of you to get your issues out and move on from the bickering for once? Seeing as you have a thread for free speech- let rip...
I'm with you on the drunk thing- I would never get myself in such a state, or i would hope i wouldn't.
What I find appalling is that someone can laugh at this.
Yes, she was stupid to get in that state, but does that mean she was asking for it?
As i said, I don't know the girl, i don't know the situation or any other facts other than in the original post.
What I do know is its an all too common occurence.
I think it often comes down to the 'lad mentality', another notch on the bedpost, with as little effort as possible to get an easy shag.
Silly drunk girl gets what's coming to her?
Would anyone thinkit fair game to sleep with someone that drunk that you couldn't be sure of consent?
Would anyone sleep with someone that clearly that drunk?
It worries me that a lot of lads think a drunk girl is an easy target...
Have you ever been so drunk that you regretted something like that?
Luckily, to my knowledge i have never been that bad, but i know plenty of friends who do have regrets and also memory blanks from nights out...
Well, just glad that this is how everyone else sees it- I couldn't believe it when i heard someone thought it was funny!
I hope to god nothing else happened to her, but i have heard of much worse than this!
M xx
:shock: I have just been told a story by my friend, about her friend.
The girl in question had been at a party and has since discovered a picture of herself on her camera phone, that she has no recollection of being taken.
In the picture she appears as if she has passed out in a dark room, and she has her top pulled down and her skirt pushed up.
She has absolutely no recollection of this, no idea of who could have taken the picture, but knows that she was so drunk that she couldn't remember most of the party. At best, it was folk messing about, at worst, well, she doesn't even want to think about it....
Although i don;t know her, I'm told she's a very shy girl, who would never willingly have so much on show, which i think is what makes this worse.
So what do you think?
A comment from another male particularly shocked me, who laughed, and said 'that's what she gets for getting in such a state'
IMO this is a form of assault not a prank gone wrong.
I can't understand how anyone could laugh.
Did she get what she deserved for getting so drunk?
Quote by Garfield1
are you aware that under the new Sexual Offences Act 2003 this is now a criminal offence
The following activities are criminal under the Act and liable to prosecution:
a. Two consenting young people (gay and straight) who engage in sexual activity under the age of consent. Sexual activity will include heavy petting and most public displays of affection.
b. Parents who allow young people the privacy of their own rooms and consenting sexual activity occurs - this includes heavy petting.

I actually can't believe this! :shock:
Surely all this is just part of growing up?
What about kissing your first boyfriend on a park bench (again, not what i did, but typical stereotype!)
Teenagers are going to experiment whether the parents like it or not.
At 14 people will have sex and will not have their childhood innocence taken away because of this.
I didn't sleep with anyone until i was 16, but i might as well have done. It's funny, because of what i thought was the law, at that age, i did pretty much everything BUT have sexual intercourse until i was 16.
ooooooo i love this thread!
I think I'm pretty much nearly always happy!
1. I just dropped den off in town and all the christmas lights are on! wow! Edinburgh looks soooo beautiful!
2. To feel even more Christmassy, my absolute favourite song was playing- Fairytale of New York, The Pogues- i was singing along with it playing full blast!
3. I'm on holiday! No work till Thursday!
4. I go back to work on Thursday!! (i love my job biggrin )!
oooo i could write sooooo much more!
xxxxx
Quote by Dawnie

The 22 year old really wanted to have sex with a young girl knowingly in these circumstances and thinks its acceptable???

What if she lied about her age initially? I certainly know i did when i wsa younger, and i know so many young girls do to, what a status symbol to have an older boy, perhaps who drives etc etc (not why i ever lied about my age btw)
Yes, I still can't understand why on earth a 22 year old could want to date a 14 year old, but perhaps he didn't initially know?
Perhaps they got a bit cosy in their relatinship and then she admitted? Then what is he expected to do? I would imagine him being pretty torn, or perhaps thinking 'fuck it, it's done now' .
There was a programme on this week (Hollyoaks later) where a girl (15) was in a club and pulled an older guy, went back to his and lost her virginity to him. He didn't know (was he supposed to ask her for id?!) her age, it was a one night stand to him, until the girls family got involved and phoned the police.
Is he a ?
In my eyes (whether the correct 'dictionary definition' or not) a peadophile is someone who sets out with intent to destroy a childs innocence. In this case, I don't believe the guy did this.
In terms of the mother, i would not even call her a parent- she is the one that is in the wrong for openly letting them.
M xx
PS can people please take their petty argumnets to pm rather than here? Just for once maybe?
I can only wish!.....
Quote by Lost
Wunderhorse. I'd like to add that the longer you have been on the forums then the more often you will of seen topics and issues raised, and maybe become to familiar with how they progress, thus adding to your feelings that since you first started things have changed. They have'nt but you have.
I have delved every now and then back into the archives of the forums. They most certainly have not changed other than people who have come and gone and the topical news issues obviously. The biggest noticeable difference is in the amount of posters. There seem to be more now.

:thumbup: Think this is exactly the reason!!!
M xx
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Pretty much sums up my views.
I have to say that at 13, I felt ready to have sex, and I would have, had the opportunity arisen.
At 16, I did, for the first time, with someone who was 18.
I then at 16 did, with someone who was 28 (he thought i was 20!)
This was my choice, (and yes I was at the legal age, so not quite as bad as the op example, but he was 12 years older than me) if he had come along 2 or 3 years before, then i might well have done it then. It didn't harm me, and I know that at a younger age it wouldn't have either.
I waited until i was 16 because I was too much of a scardey cat to break the rules, that's the only reason. I was desperate to from a very early age, I didn't stop thinking about sex.
Like it or not, for a lot of under 16s, it is ALL they think about, talk about, want to do, which I can see is very difficult for parents to think about.
You still want to cling on to your childs innocence, but they are most likely far from innocent (well, I certainly was redface lol )
I often feel its such a subject to talk about, but i was first in primary seven when i discovered masturbation, and that certainly did not rob me of my childhood or make me weird etc etc.
However, I certainly wouldn't have shagged in my parents house- in fact den is the only one i have and would (and thats v v quietly, if at all! lol) and it was probably down to my respect for them and the way i was brought up that i never, and that i waited till i was 16, but i really dont think waiting a couple of years would have added any extra maturity to my decision making or made any difference to my attitudes.
If this makes me a namby pambie lefty then so be it, but it also makes me a very horny teenager once upon a time, who doesn't think sex in earlier teenage years for SOME is all that bad (note some- so many of my friends haven't even reached the maturity now to be shagging sensibly!)
It did make me think when someone mentioned re what is the 22 yr old doing?! I would never have thought at that age to sleep with anyone aged younger than probably 18 at a push, so i do think it a bit strange that he is aware of her age and still going ahead with it, knowing that it's illegal.
The guy that I slept with that was much older never knew i was 16 (we met in a club- he's not exactly gonna get me to produce id to prove anything, is he?) and especially in that case the guy could never be in the wrong about sleeping with someone underage.
wow! also an essay!
m xx
Quote by Dirtygirlie
Killer heels! :mrgreen:

A camera so we can have some more pics of her bum :twisted:
There's more pics of you know where to look! wink
Nipple tassels! :rascal:
Oh and sat nav for blondie up there! :wink:
smackbottom I was sticking to the below £20 rule!
:wink:
Quote by TanKinky
I'm in between Maz and Tan :rascal:

Ooh how fun :rascal: i bet im on bottom to :twisted:
This has only ever happened in my dreams.....
I'm logging on to check you're for real!!!
:inlove: :inlove:
Hopefully you will get an answer sooner rather than later, i can't believe it's taken so long, it does sound like the school is failing and surely they have to do something about it, and i can understand why you would be thinking about home schooling, you would feel more in control of her learning.
I think for me though it would be a very very last ditch option if there was absolutely no other solution!
In edit: I know home schooling is definately not for me and hopefully not ever for my children, but i also know it must be a very difficult decision to make, so it's difficult to be critical of it without knowing the full scenario!
xx
m xx
Quote by kentswingers777
I still am having trouble understanding how a parent with limited educational knowledge, can offer anywhere near what a school can.
Our local school whilst not being the highest in the exam tables has a fantastic array of benefits for the kids. I am finding the whole subject rather baffling. Still it is only my opinion. :shock:

I'm thinking the same as you!
I'm also remembering my mum n dad trying to help me with my homework as a child- it was a nightmare.
Whether it be simple primary school sums, they just simply weren't trained teachers so i had great difficulty understanding them!
I don't think it's just what you know about what you teach, it's how you teach it! this is what teachers are trained for.
It's sad that sometimes ( or a lot of the time) in life that the teaching part is taken over by controlling the class, but i just think that's life, and again, another part of the learning process!
Is there an option of gettin extra after school tutors in if its the learning of the subject matter thats the issue? xx
Has the scrummiest looking 9lbs worth I've EVER seen!!!
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I think if your daughter is happy where she is, then you should be thinking more along the lines of what the school should be doing to help the situation.
m xx

I've taken all those points on board Maz and thank you smile
The one above is the one I am following for the time being. However if I don't get help from the school, I don't have a choice of schools to send her to and homeschooling may well be my only other option.
I am finding out though that there are loads of children who it is working for and has worked for so I'm definitely keeping a very open mind.
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Yes indeedy!
I suppose you need to work out what you all think are the most important things your daughter should get from her education (involving her) and then work out where she is best going to get these things, be that home or school. I also think it's important to remember that not everyone is good at learning in general, are you , or the school for that matter, the best to cater for the differing learning needs?
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I would never choose home schooling, either if it had been for me, or if we ever have kids.
School and learning are about so much more than just the knowledge that you absorb and about how well you can do in exams.
School provides children with life skills that I just don't see how you can get from staying at home and learning with a parent/ small group.
When you start to think of all the extras at school that are such a big part of growing up and learning, be it interaction in the lunch hall, interaction with authority figures, being part of the school community, school sports day, assemblies, walking with you mates to school, break time, drama classes, team working etc etc etc I have never felt it's right to home school.
I think children need time away from their parents and vice versa, and children need to start to learn responsibility for themselves, rather than relying on their parents to teach them everything.
I think if your daughter is happy where she is, then you should be thinking more along the lines of what the school should be doing to help the situation.
As for me, I hated school, I'm a terrible learner and hate being stuck to schedules, timetabled in. But i need to like that or lump it in my job now, and i know i would've been a very different person had i been homeschooled, and not in a good way!!
m xx
Sorry forgot to qoute but,
Staffcple said this:
'Unless of course child protection becomes the absolute priority it should always have been. In which case people will have to accept over-protectiveness, which it seems the various agencies involved get villified for as well.'
I think this is very true, I have noticed that some of those who want the witch hunt here, have been those that in past threads have displayed their horror at Britain turning into a 'nanny state'.
Yes indeedy, you can't have it both ways....
I don't even have a scooby where i am now
Bastard Burglars!
After they pinched our laptop, it meant i couldn't get onto FF, but den could at work so i (stupidly) left him in charge of my transfers.
Big Mistake.
I've gone from 2nd place with my awesome team to Godknowswheremiddletableobscurity (to pinch someones team name!)
Thankfully, we are back online, so hoping that i can remember to log on this week, then methinks i'll be using my wildcard!
Dunno if there's any hope in hell of me bringing it back but i can but try!
GRRRR to den! evil
Remember, it's ok to feel hungry!
I think so many people have forgotten what hunger feels like!!!!
Just because you feel a wee bit hungry, does not mean you have to eat!
Anyway, for loosing weight- ditto the others-
EAT LESS, DO MORE.
Simple!