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jesus what scares me is when people consider a hollywood movie to be a religion and lifestyle guide.......matrix my arse......
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Personally i agree with a lot of the comments above but at the same time you can understand his decision to lie about his sexual preferences. Although as long as he is not involved in anything illegal, I would base my vote upon policies, political history, public presence etc, that is not the case for a large proportion of the voters in this or any country. I spoke with a colleague about this subject yesterday, while we both agreed that the main issue was the fact he had lied in initial questioning was the main issue, when I offered the opnion that quetsions like that really have no place in politics, what peopel do in there spare tiem is really none of our business ( and that goes as far as teh issues of divorce etc because you can never truely appreciate the situation, and therefore should make no comment or pass no judgement) , my colleague said something that really suprised me "well if he's gay who knows what other deviances he mnay have."
I consider this person to be open minded and accepting but although he has no quarrell with the gay community he still feels that it is some way wrong and that his sexual preference would affect his voting.
When in the media refusing to answer a question is seen as an admission, and when you're overall aim is to become voted prime minister by the Uk's public, I can understand the decision to lie considering the underlying and unspoken homophobia among much of the british population.
It's not right but how would you deal with it?
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Personally i agree with a lot of the comments above but at the same time you can understand his decision to lie about his sexual preferences. Although as long as he is not involved in anything illegal, I would base my vote upon policies, political history, public presence etc, that is not the case for a large proportion of the voters in this or any country. I spoke with a colleague about this subject yesterday, while we both agreed that the main issue was the fact he had lied in initial questioning was the main issue, when I offered the opnion that quetsions like that really have no place in politics, what peopel do in there spare tiem is really none of our business ( and that goes as far as teh issues of divorce etc because you can never truely appreciate the situation, and therefore should make no comment or pass no judgement) , my colleague said something that really suprised me "well if he's gay who knows what other deviances he mnay have."
I consider this person to be open minded and accepting but although he has no quarrell with the gay community he still feels that it is some way wrong and that his sexual preference would affect his voting.
When in the media refusing to answer a question is seen as an admission, and when you're overall aim is to become voted prime minister by the Uk's public, I can understand the decision to lie considering the underlying and unspoken homophobia among much of the british population.
It's not right but how would you deal with it?
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Pleased to hear that you are both okay after this incident.
Have either of you broken any mirrors lately ???
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jesus what scares me is when people consider a hollywood movie to be a religion and lifestyle guide.......matrix my arse......
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Don't loose any sleep over it will you..
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.come on I know we are buddies
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but it has to end NOW....here is my farewell kisss.....XXXXXXXX
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This site is bullshit!!!!!
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This site is bullshit!!!!!
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Any matrix fans will tell you that love is a word and the semantics of the definition is based on personal experience and perception. We define our own world from our own childhood experiences and the subliminal conditioning that society exposes us to, however, we are also influenced by a host of other sources such as books, films, friends, ex partners and so on. . The definition of love varies according to the culture, belief system (if any), customs, and social etiquette. For example in some countries a man can have x amount of wifes etc whlst in another the same man would be considered a bigomist. Acceptance of the norm or questioning it would bring you closer to discovering who you are and what you expect from yourself and others.
Love is just a word; what really matters is the meaning that we give by definition based on your personal experience. With love comes expectations, illusions, dreams, comfort, reassurance, hurt, pain etc.
Whilst I am still a virgin to the swinging scene. Transactional Analysis may offer some of the answers to the question initially posted here. Most couples who are into the swininging scene have reached a state of adult consent that brings into play "I am OK You are OK". Isaac Newton would argue that the sum derived from a "positive number" and "a negative number" equals a "negative number". So for a couple to enjoy the swinging scene both partners would have to be in agreement based on the law of action and consequences derived from their personal values, and their definition of love which may differ anyone elses definition.
Love in my opinion is a child like emotion that is experienced through our childhood giving us our sense of worth and self esteem. So the dynamic of two child like personilities giving each other consent to be naughty can also be derived from transactional analysis. As humans we evolve and we make choices that would appear to be the right ones at the time based on our circumstances, environment etc. However, if at any point you begin to question the choices you've made then doubt might just creep in and then there is a danger that you could start to project your doubts on to your partner and that's when things can get very tricky.
As for one group of people with a "label" loving more than or less than another group is pure nonsense..I am afraid that we will never know the answer to that one because it is human nature to feel one thing and reveal a series of smoke screens to the world. Who would question the old couple who are not swingers but have just celebrated 40 years of marriage, and they still walk down the beach hand in hand. Have they loved less or more than a couple who happen to be swingers....That would depend on the dynamics of the relationship. Which brings me to my final point in that "relationship" is yet another word that gives meaning to a set of protocols that differ from couple to couple and does not necessarily involve "love" as habitual conditioning can also be a symptom of being in denial that one's relationship has passed it's sell by date but we continue to accomodate and even agree to certain terms that may not be favourable because of our fear of the unknown
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Communication is the foundation of any relationship and failure to communicate often a key factor in other issues seeming to be irresolvable.
The situation you describe is quite a prevalent one amongst married men who join swinging sites without their partner’s knowledge.
Whatever you feel the problem is – it is a secondary issue to your wife’s reluctance to talk. There lies the issue you should focus on. By refusing to discuss a situation which you are obviously not content with, your wife is demonstrating she has no interest for how you feel within the relationship.
When somebody doesn’t want to talk there is a reason.
Some typical reasons for the ‘shut-down’ behaviour include:
• Your wife has found a new lover who does the business really good.
• Your wife has a suppressed lesbian sexuality and finds just the thought of you fucking her repulsive.
• You just don’t push her buttons and she is sick of trying.
One good thing which you can take from any of the above reasons is – at least she is keeping quiet to avoid hurting you feelings.
There are of course alternative reasons why your wife may have decided to ‘shut-down’ communication:
• She has found out you are using a swinging site and thinks you are trying for sympathy shag by telling a bunch of stranger she is crap in bed when she can be bothered to part her legs.
• A medical condition.
There is only one course of action regardless of the reason – keep trying to open up the channels of communication.
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I've hit 3000 ........... in less than a year :bounce:
So that only goes to prove I am a chatterbox :giggle:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Well....how did you manage to write all that without getting "auto-logged-out"
well done..!!
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You put a post asking....
"So i ask myself is it that people who swing do not love, have not found love, or do they love more"????
And to 1 of my Q's... you replied...
She swings I swing, but not together. We talk about it but not what we have done. She know, she knows I know. The rules seem to have built themselves over the years. She prefers not to know my what, who, where, when. I would like to swing together, we respect each other wishes.
And then you accuse people of "getting personal".... because you didnt like my follow up answer to this..
Nobody is getting personal... and Yes...I don't know you.... But you chose to put this up for open discussion... and I voiced my opinion... Just like everybody else that has replied to this....
