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neilinleeds
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Male, 56
0 miles · West Yorkshire

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1) John Barrowman, in Torchwood Cap'n Jack mode, obviously. Enough already with the Dancing On Ice shit though FFS. As for the Sound Of Piggin' Musicals, are you determined to ruin this for me, or wot? Stop it John, just stop!
2) Johnny Depp
3) Johnny Depp
4) Johnny Depp
5) Anyone who'd care to join us really, I'm not arsed. Got three Johnny Depps and a John Barrowman to play with, what do I care? dunno
5½) Oh FGS David Tennant, thought you were out with the RSC this weekend? Oh, OK, yes, I suppose we could squeeze you in somewhere, if you insist? Don't mind us, will you?
*tosses head*
Such a prima donna he is. Thinks it's all about him! rolleyes
Like a French Tickler, but in chocolate form? I can see that working actually. Might wanna have a good suck on it first to smooth out the bumps a bit before going for yer G-Spot orgasm with it mind, being careful with the potential for dental injury, obviously. T'would be self-smoothing after a bit, though, wouldn't it? Less effective as time wears on. lol
I was actually going more for the slut image, than the tart image... Darn it...

Ah. Well yes, I suppose the slut vs tart thing is a subtle distinction and sometimes difficult to pull off. Or I may have misread. Keep practising. I found tarting and slutting, blatantly or otherwise came quite naturally after a bit. You'll get there.
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Anyone fancy a shag...?? lol

You've always got to lower the tone havent you LB lol Anyone would think this was a sex site the way you go on rolleyes
A sex site...!!!! What's one of those, then...?
MultitudeOfMackerel or whatever it's called? confused That's a sex site. This is a swinging site. We do things differently here. I highly doubt your blatant attempt at a tart is gonna work on here, oh no.
*wanders off muttering something about the subtle approach or some such gubbins* :roll:
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So people are not allowed an opinion then?

Of course, you're allowed an opinion, even when it's so plainly wrong.
I simply made the point that on a swingers site you have to be naive not to realise that some will be perturbed if others will not meet.

Why? Who are these people so perturbed by the fact other users might not be meeting right now but still use the site? Maybe they should revise their expectations, and their definition of what constitutes an 'actual swinger' ( your words ). I'm not meeting at the moment but I have done in the past, I may do again in the future. Whether that makes me a swinger in your eyes matters not one iota, because SH is not just about arranging meets. I would argue that swinging is as much to do with mindset as it is to do with the physical acts engaged in. SH provides a focus for a community of like-minded people who share a common interest and to some extent a similar mindset, varied though that is. I would argue that it is that mindset that more accurately defines who and what a swinger is than any number of meets and any number of physical acts.
Anyways, for the avoidance of all future doubt, until I decide I might want to try and start meeting again I'll stick this in me signature, how's that?

On second thoughts I won't cos it's turned out a bit too big and doesn't scale very well as a gif, and I can't be arsed photoshopping it again! lol
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Thing is this is supposed to be a swingers site not a place for old mates to chat and keep up. That is what facebook is for. Unless you are upfront all the time about the fact that you are not meeting at all then you leave yourself wide open (and rightly so) to the charge of time waster.
And the fact you fail to realise this and think those that get annoyed with you are in the wrong perfectly demonstrates the cliquey nature that has now greatly damaged the credibility of the site as a place for actual swingers who meet rather than just a chatroom.

And who made you the SH police? confused You're aware I take it that many, many users ( if not most in fact ) go through stages where they're actively looking for meets, periods where they're not looking to meet at all, and periods where they're just generally open to the possibilities SH occasionally offers and will see what happens to come their way. How do you suggest they should go about things, not that your opinion on the subject is of any concern whatsoever as far as the way other people choose to use the site goes, you understand. rolleyes
I'm getting a little tired of hearing the expression "time waster" on this site. It seems to me to be a term that's banded about by frustrated and impatient people as a way to justify to themselves why someone they've talked to once or twice hasn't shagged them yet!!

It would seem you have a firm grasp on how things work on here, yes. ;)
I think anyone tempted to run around labelling people as time wasters needs to calm down, take some time to make an effort and see where that takes them - it's likely to be a damn site further than getting pissed off and moving on just because you don't get a guaranteed fuck after saying "hi" in the chatrooms!

Alienating half the forum and a good chunk of those who read his ad ain't likely to progress things much either I wouldn't have thought? confused Luckily for him hardly noone reads the bloody forum any more, but might wanna think about changing his ad. About as appealing as a wet weekend in Cleethorpes at present. ( No disrespect meant to lovers of that fine seaside town, wet weather or otherwise, obviously. lol )
Would any other time wasters like to unite with me?

Don't have SHREP enabled here Minxy which makes me a timewaster by definition it would seem. rolleyes lol Seems I'm in your club whether I like it or not. As it happens I do like it, and sign up gladly.
'Wasters of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your time', as a bloke with a big beard could have very nearly once said.
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Morning neilinleeds, were you up early or just to bed late ;)

Morning Greenbook. smile A bit of both fella, a bit of both. My sleeping pattern's a bit to cock at the moment. Be getting on time for a snooze before long. rolleyes lol
sorry Neil these generalisations ain't posted to offend sadly its how we have found the differences in the two scenes, and also why we treat the two scenes very differently and feel that for most there would not be a crossover as such

Fair enough, and no offence taken whatsoever. ;) I guess what I was driving at is that there are, or can be broad similarities as far as mindset and approach go between the two ( AFAICS from the very little I know of the BDSM scene or the very few people I've met who are into it ) for a good few of us I think, that aren't related to the actual practices engaged in. In that sense I think there's more of a cross-over than has maybe been suggested.
I'd take you up on the visit BTW. Planned a few times to get to a local munch and club night in Leeds, always bottled out thinking they might be a bit hard-core for me being somewhat sub and I'd be out of my depth! rolleyes lol
I am not trying to say one is better than the other, my post was asking if there is a crossover, it was not meant as an attack at either the fetish or swinging scene.

Nor did I mean to imply anything of the sort. ;)
The point I was trying to make is that I have only heard about this kind of thing happening once or twice in my 10 years in the fetish scene but I have spoken to at least 3 people in the last year who have experienced it at swinging events. I realise this is only 3 people out of the many thousands who enjoy the swinging scene but I can only go on what people I have spoken to have told me.

Is it perhaps that the swinging scene has had lots more publicity ( SH has had loads of media attention: Stan Collymore, referenced in the red tops, etc ) so inevitably draws more idiots than the BDSM scene, the BDSM scene being perhaps a tad more underground, and not so well understood? ( or indeed, marketable? ) The BDSM scene is perhaps a little harder to wrap your head around for most, myself included, and so attracts less of the quick lay brigade, likely to get it wrong? confused
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we also found that swinging was about sex /shagging and the body, where as Bdsm was a complete discovery about someones body and mind and senses with zones being found that where far more erotic than could ever be imagined , would i bring it into a swinging meet NO is the answer as most would not want to understand let alone try

No! Swinging has always been primarily a mental thing for me, and I like to think some of the people I've played with. A mutual exploration of the erotic possibilities our minds, and bodies when put together enable. Quite how they're put together physically is neither here nor there? confused I don't for one minute imagine I'm in some way an exception that proves a rule. Sweeping stating that doesn't stand scrutiny IME.
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Sadly what you say about respect and etiquette and the differences between the respective scenes I have been told by others. I would have to say that most Fetish events I have been to are some of the safest club environments for women. From my first time visiting a fetish event etiquette, respect and consent were drummed into me as the most important thing and non consensual touching is very rare to the point than when it does happen it causes a huge cafuffle.

Mutual respect and etiquette were drummed into me on here too. Not that I'd ever have thought anything non-consensual without previous permission until someone explained that to me was ok you understand? Only an idiot would imagine for a moment you could invade someone's space, sexually or otherwise, so struggling to understand the distinction made? The fact there are idiots about who don't understand that does not change what swinging is.
In the shower, or in the bath? Going to work, or going to meet someone?
If in the shower going to work: whatever's the cheapest half decent shampoo in Morridogs the last few weeks. Start with more than's strictly necessary in the palm of me 'and, brisk rub all over the 'ead, transfer lather to armpits, rub again, transfer newly lathered up hand to pubes, ass crack, then rub briskly all over. Rinse off. Job done.
/how to shower like a man blog
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To be fair, I believe "broken" was used to denote a possible technical issue rather than the efficiency/value of the rep system.

Probably got in with the edit as you were typing? See above! :P ;)
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Oh and just to add. We always thought you were more gay than you are
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Hahahahaha! Piss off! kiss
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Quote by mincepie
Oi you, out of context how?

By leaving out the natural progression of the discussion - OP asked a question, they got an answer, they took the new information in and reconsidered their approach... You chose to disregard this learning process and pick two lines from two separate posts to make it appear that the OP were contradicting themselves - when in fact they were thinking aloud, and deciding to adjust their use of the facility.
Or alternatively, I was simply trying to reinforce an argument they'd already made in answer to their own question re: the brokenness or otherwise of SHREP ( for the record, I think it's plain that if people use it that way, repping people they don't even know, it will inevitably be broken. That's all. ) but I take your point. Having re-read the thread I also now understand it was probably more of a technical question than a philosophical one. :doh: rolleyes
DM, apologies for being an arse. Not my intention.
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:therethere: But then don't they say bald is sexy?

They do say that Nola, they do. It's what I keep telling meself anyways. Stop patting me head though. That's another clump wot's just come out! :P ;)
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quoting out of context

Hang around, it's an art form you'll see used quite often in forum lol
Oi you, out of context how?
DM, you asked why doesn't SHREP work for you, then you told us how you were using SHREP, then I subtly ( or as subtly as I can get! ) tried to suggest in the nicest possible way how the way you were trying to use SHREP was meaningless, and useless, as per your own discovery, so not sure how I quoted anything you said out of context? If it seems I was stating the bleedin' obvious, well, a little tiny part of me says 'ask a silly question, get a silly answer' but I'm not about to feel bad about it, cos:
1) you asked a question inviting a reply, and we are being adult and having a conversation, aren't we?
2) see above
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What's the problem? You fall about laffin' in a 'Check me out being all manly and stuff' kinda way, or is it more the 'Me Mam would chuffin' kill me if she heard this coming out me mouth' that really ruins it for you? It's the 'me mam'll kill me' thing that ruins the dom thing for me mainly. Hard being brought up a feminist when you're a bloke, innit? ;)
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On men grey = distinguished.
*sigh*

I've been proper looking forward to going all salt'n'pepper distinguished so I have. I'm like, there's got to be some consolations to getting old, and stuff, eh? Alas, seems not. The double crown I've been sporting for, oh, a good decade or so is now officially a bald spot and thinning at a ferocious pace. Can't get all vehement about it any more, the evidence is there for all to see.
Ain't life a bitch? :mad:
Lots. Oh, waaaaaay too many things to go into in any real depth. It's been a voyage of self-discovery and a half and no mistake. Some of them:
I'm not nearly as gay as some of my 'mates' once thought I was ( who oddly have mostly turned out to be gay / bisexual themselves, thereby confirming the old saw about the homophobic! ), or nearly as gay as I once wondered meself. Turns out I'm just bi, exactly as some on here said I was long before I got there all by my little self and was able to admit that to anyone. Probably a bit more bi than they reckoned though, so ha, ya boo sucks!
I'm too trusting, and still quite naive, but you know what? I like that. Better than being the cynical cunt I was turning into, despite an occasional cynical tendency.
Following from the above, a cynical thick skin is sometimes a useful thing to have. Where once I might have cared what people who didn't care about me thought, these days I have a better grasp on the whole giving a flying fuck thing. smile
That some people think I'm really quite fuckable. Still don't quite get that, but hey, I'm not arguing.
Most importantly, that some people like me, almost in spite of meself at times. :)
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You said:
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This system seems very unfair or it's broken?

Later on you said:
we're being over zealous in leaving rep for people we don't really know.

Why are you leaving rep for people you don't really know? D'you think that's useful, for anyone? If so, how? confused
Any thoughts?

Yup. Not being harsh, but I think you've answered your own question?
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Single men seem to be scared of any connection on the whole and prefer married women for that reason...... like they are any less demanding or emotional! :P

I think the whole connection thing is difficult. I don't do random sex with strangers, never have. It's not my thing. A connection was always important to me too. Trouble is in building the connection you come to actually care about eachother, and that inevitably creates an emotional involvement of sorts. Not in a 'let's get married and have babies' kinda way, just in a naturally come to care for your friends sense. We're so used I think to keeping some distance between people we sleep with, and people who are friends that swinging with them is inevitably fraught with difficulties. We have to learn to navigate boundaries we don't ordinarily have as none-swingers perhaps. It's not easy, at all in my experience. I understand absolutely why so many are into NSA one-offs.
Women are usually more open and honest..........

No. Sorry. They're really not. No more than single men / single females / couples are a, b and c anyways. Sweeping statements like that do not hold any water at all.
You cant be a nice and dirty even on here it seems

Yes you can. You just have to learn how. At the end of the day you've only got yourself to please. ;)
You've got bollocks? :shock: :shock: :shock: Gonna need to revise my mental image here, ain't I? ( Somehow always assumed it was Jewl doing the posting? confused lol )
Despite my staunch anti-aristocratic Republican tendencies and antipathy for The Monarchy ( capital T, capital M. ) I have to have respect for the woman ( small t, small w. ). I think she's probably been a force for good on the whole, genuinely driven by a feeling of service, and 60 years of it is some achievement. I like that there's an excuse for communities that might not otherwise have done so to try and get together around a common purpose for a bit cos there's not enough of that these days. Four days of it is a bit much though innit?
I was happy with the extra day's bank holiday, quite enough for me. Half-way through The Times I was today before I found an actual news article and that's meant to be a quality newspaper. Bet you could hardly carry The Express home in a wheelbarrow and it's only day two FFS!
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:laughabove:
:giggle:
God, we must have a bloody juvenile sense of humour between us? rolleyes I'm sniggering like a 9 year old here. lol
Quite pleased with the u-turn on DEFRA's proposal to remove buzzards / destroy nests from moorland used for rearing pheasants. Perfect illustration of the complete lack of common sense at the top: persecute a native species already once driven to the brink of extinction in the UK so a non-native species artificially reared for sport is available to shoots! Only an upper-class Tory could ever have thought that one was gonna fly? rolleyes
The thing with most of the u-turns we've seen of late is that while they will try and spin them as re-thinks following a period of public consultation, which is all excellently democratic and what have you, the fact they could come up with half of the plans in the first place simply demonstrates what absolute fuckwits most of them in Govt are.
I had the very same idea Funlovers and was every bit as pissed off when I discovered the increased cost. It's worse than you suggest. The £2500 is for a module worth 60 credits. An honours degree requires you study modules worth 360 credits, so if you wanted to really apply yourself and do it quick over three years as with a full-time degree it's £5000 a year. I don't quite understand how the fees can be justified given the O.U. must have massively lower costs than even a small red-brick given they've no campus to maintain. confused
Sorting out my new house here too Nola. Been living out of boxes all week but had a productive day yesterday cleaning the kitchen and getting stuff sorted into cupboards there before moving onto the flat pack shelving in the living room. Looking better already. smile Just got the bedroom to do now. Slight problem in that the two halves of the bed base won't go round the corner at the top of the stairs, but will get them up there somehow if it kills me! mad