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Quote by flower411
As long as there are certain safeguards in place, I can`t see anything wrong with this

Had to have a quick Google on this to get up to speed, on this I agree with you. It's their home, they should have a right to invite whoever they like for whatever reason they like into it so long as that presents no risk and doesn't impact on others, and I'm pretty sure sexuality doesn't suddenly switch off when you hit a certain age or fall victim to some kind of disability. Having worked in a care home in my time I can assure you that is very much not the case with some of the dementia patients we had, who were a bit of a handful. I'd have concerns there but for individuals sound in mind and body ( mostly, their reasons for being in a care home notwithstanding ) enough to consent properly some kind of sex life is a right I would have said.
Only concern I would have here is if carers were in on the profits in some way, or the residents were being exploited but otherwise, fine. Prostitution is not illegal, no harm is being done, basic human drive that needs expression in some way is being fulfilled, there is no breach here of the home's duty of care it would seem. No problem.
Doubt you're gonna have any problems there livelife_cpl! ;)
I've enjoyed MMF and very rarely FFM in the past, though most of the scenarios I've experienced have involved more bodies than that most often. :mrgreen: I think generally they work much better every which way if all parties are bi. I get that being pretty much the focus of attention for two others to go at you can just surrender yourself to is great, very horny, no question, but even better if you can switch up which of you is gonna be that individual as things develop. More possibilities aren't there. Gives everyone a bite of the same cherry, chance to experience both the physical aspects and the differences in headspace as to whether you're playing a more active or passive role, attender or attendee so to speak. Happy days.
Jealousing big time about all you southerners having nuddy beaches to go to. Only ever been to Slapton Sands in Devon, would like to have one available here too but East Yorks Council have gone out of their way with local bye-laws and such like prohibiting it on the couple of beaches that do have a history of naturism on them AFAIK, so ignore Foxy, she doesn't know wot she's on about that one. DO NOT MOVE to bloody Scarborough, it's rubbish! sad
If I was gonna move ( and could find work, and could drive, and afford to run a car up to the roads, all very big ifs ) I think Devon would probably edge out Brighton these days. Not sure I'm up for the Brighton pace, maybe ten years ago, the rainbow thing would suit me down to the ground but Devon is more my speed. Think they even have swinging clubs down there these days and everything, as well as Slapton. Happy days.
Profiles covered only with pics of flaccid cocks. What is the fucking point, I ask you? Profiles covered in cock shots and nothing much else generally are bad enough, but a flaccid cock is neither use to man nor beast. Not all that attractive either quite often, especially those in need of a good bit of a groom and better personal hygiene standards. If you must at least sort your shit out before turning the camera on FFS! lol
I don't go in much for anything that could be used as demonstration material in a gynaecology class either. Don't really wanna be seeing what someone's had for their breakfast any which way, or what someone else might have given them for their lunch, so to speak, if you catch my drift. My general preference is for the erotic, rather than the intimately close up and personal pornographic quite often.
Likes: face pics, body pics, clothed, partially clothed or nude, but something that generally leaves a little to the imagination while still showing the full package on offer, and demonstrating a little imagination on the other's part in their turn. Imagination counts for a lot every which way in this game I find.
p.s. I am aware that having only a pic of me driving a chuffin' boat on my own profile might make the whole of the above seem somewhat hypocritical. You know what? So shoot me! I loved that bloody boat I did. :lol:
Quote by jandotherj
I note that most of the respondents to this thread are of godlike or similar status. The danger there is that they generate a cosy ‘club culture’ where you only see things from you own well-worn perspective. No offence meant just an observation that it is a VERY steep learning curve for the newbie, and most old timers have forgotten that. The site is littered with uncompleted profiles where I can imagine that the member has just lost heart and doesn’t really know how to begin. If you are new to swinging than you probably have enough on your plate justifying this new and unusual approach to life, without also having to hack through the timewasters who on occasions seem to be 95% or the membership.
This post was meant as an illumination, so I hope nobody takes offence.

None taken whatsoever. That's the second time someone's commented on the Godlike thing in the last week or so. Hmmmmmm.
I don't think we've forgotten the realities or how hard it can be to get started. If anything I understand only too well how it must be even harder to start out now given the growth of the site. When I started you could could count the core, regular membership active on a day in, day out basis in the low hundreds but even then the social route was the route I took ( following from being reg in either chat or on the forum ) as a way to get to know that core better, and the route I have advised pretty much everyone else to take since. Especially single men, but single women and couples also. It's how I got my foot in the door so to speak, and worked very nicely for me as what was then a single male, then as a couple, now a single male again. It's difficult to advise new members do that when there ain't no bloody socials to direct new members to.
I dunno where I stand in respect of the scene at the moment, my profile is completely blank partly for that reason but I know I would struggle to get back into it ( beyond a circle who already exist and are probably too far into the friends stage to consider the benefits with thing most often, I dunno, I've not tried to shag any of them in years! lol ) without a social scene myself, I'd be effectively starting from scratch too so again, don't imagine we don't understand the difficulties. It's sad the way things seem to have gone.
Quote by Lost
Would be fabulous if we could find a way! smile

No, it's no good Losty. Over my 'ead like an aeroplane fella, were you driving at something there? lol ;)
Quote by wideeyedand
Fabulous is a much overrated word in the context of the site I am talking about!

What would be the point? It's a free site ( assuming I understand Losty's clue correctly? ). Are they gearing up towards commercialising then? I don't use it BTW, I wouldn't know. I expect a flood of PMs from hot and horny women responding to my completely blank single male profile on some of the more dubious pay-sites out there I've ever looked into ( cos that happens aaaaaall the time on swinging sites, doesn't it? :lol: ) but a fake profile scam on a free site doesn't make a lot of sense?
UN Security Council resolution isn't it Star, would be quite remiss of us as Security Council members to vote through an intervention and then refuse to chuck some personnel and hardware at it. None-combat role, though I suspect that might well change. For the moment though we're content to wheel out a couple of the usual big guns, see if they can't sort it out. I hear Bono and Bob Geldof are already selecting their hats in readiness for their photo ops. Shame they've just missed their slot for a Xmas single. Still, there's always next Xmas, time enough yet. ;)
Quote by nellie-mwgc
Not all city dwellers know nothing about the countryside !

True Nellie. Couldn't call it countryside really where I was brought up, pit village in greenbelt on the outskirts of Leeds. Still surrounded by fields though, mostly arable, some dairy farming, fair few horse breeders about. Some of the city dwellers round those parts know an awful lot about pest control. Badger population was pretty well eradicated from my area, had to go all the way to Devon to see my one and only live badger, and not because there isn't good habitat there for them. They just get dug up and chucked to a couple of staffies. Pretty good at foxing too, though they don't go in for all that dressing up on horses much. Couple of lads with some lurchers and a torch, that's how they do it round here. Completely illegal too that as it goes, apparently it's cruel. Few would advocate it shouldn't be illegal I think, there's no mass campaign demanding the right to lamp foxes with dogs AFAICS ( though it's still legal to lamp them with rifles, of course ). What's the diff?
Pebble, I love you, and would like to have your babies. I can add nothing to your excellent post really. The advice is spot on, could have written it almost word for word. I don't have to now, my typing fingers thank you! +1 on this though:
Swinging is by definition quite hetero-normative (for example, I remember the first time I looked into it about a decade ago, men's bisexuality was seriously frowned upon and you can still see this attitude present now) and once you get stuck in you may find that in general the scene is not *quite* as liberated as you are dreaming of.

Rose, I like to think we're pretty accepting on here. Certainly those on the trans spectrum with half a brain in their heads ( as per most of them, this shit takes some thinking about, doesn't it? ;) ) have been well received in the past, they were quite well respected. For a while. IRL it's gonna be a bit more difficult. As a bisexual man with very specific fantasies it's not easy finding what you're looking for. Possible though. Good luck!
Quote by dsfrancetoo
Just cannot understand why so many harp on about the Poles who served with the RAF and forget the thousands of Polish Nazi's who served in the German army, including many who served as guards on concentration camps.

Can you blame them? All of them? I think generally speaking there was a tendency towards conscription of civilians into the armed forces whether they were up for it or not? Europe-wide apparently, can you Adam and Eve it? It's my understanding that we were still shooting young men who weren't all that up for it as late as 1918? I think our contintental chums were doing that still later? In those circumstances you'd probably do whatever you needed to survive, wouldn't you?
Welcome back Johnny. smile
Looking at your join date you're nearly as old as me? That's a piss poor post count over the years, it really is. Must. Try. Harder!
Exactly my difficulty Pebbles, nail meets head moment right there. I would want to feel this raw. Common sense tells me that's not a good idea, hence it remains a fantasy.
An interesting thread is being hijacked by semantics. Of course the Polish Air Force no longer existed. The Polish Air Force proper ceased to exist as soon as the Nazis took power in Poland. Squadrons of Polish pilots flew with the RAF ( others had regrouped in France, a Polish squadron flying with the French Air Force up to the French defeat. ) and were referred to as the Polish Air Force ( or PAF ). Their use of PAF there would seem to be a colloquialism more than anything, they weren't the Polish Air Force proper, but the term was used.
Shall we move on? lol
Quote by noladreams
They wouldn't be my kinda thing... maybe in ladywank fantasies :rascal: but not for real.

lol
Bukake scenarios work quite nicely in my little wank fantasies too occasionally Nola, but yeah, it's something I'm unlikely to do for real. There's a very good ( by all accounts ) gay sauna in Leeds where I could easily do this sort of thing I think and I do sometimes entertain thoughts about going but I haven't got the bottle for it really, and not sure the reality would be anything like the fantasy so I'll keep it as that I think.
Losty, I think that would only increase the horn factor for me. ;) Something I've yet to do, still very much on my to-do list. Nearest I've got is wearing a strap-on so I could DP / DV someone all by me little self. Very bloody horny it was too but it's not the same as having another live, warm body alongside you by a long way.
They've had a lot less appeal for me Lost as the site's grown. In the old days when we had really big munches a couple of times a year and the site consisted of only a few hundred core regulars I'd go to a munch knowing I'd know nearly everyone there, would spend all night bouncing around trying to catch up with everyone. That changed to the point that at Wigan munches I might be lucky to know a dozen people. There'd be a few from the forum, a few from this regular chatroom, or that regular chatroom, etc. It's become splintered. Much less point going when you don't hardly know anyone.
That splintering seems evident still further when you look at the smaller, more local socials that are put on these days. Mostly chatroom types that I don't know, seemingly regs from this chatroom or that again. IMO, much as it pains me to say this, the social thing has at last become cliquey. Didn't used to be the case. Again, what's the point in me going to them?
Quote by Cubes
NB: I think you'll find they're not cats, they're 'familiars'. ;)

That probably explains things Cubes. I had a feeling one of them wanted to turn me into something. Mincemeat probably by the look on its face and the way it kept flashing its claws at me. Unnatural it was. :scared:
Quote by Cubes
Blimey, where you been hiding all this time? kiss

Going by last known whereabouts and circumstances somewhere oop North and possibly weighed beneath an unfeasibly large number of bat-shit insane, no fucking need for it mental cats who won't let her so much as open up her laptop, that's where. Probably. Note she hasn't replied, situation poss. ongoing, may get further communications from Earthchild only intermittently. Monitoring situation Cubes.
Yeah, the headspace is very interesting Andy, worth exploring all by itself. Total role reversal isn't it, being on the passive, receiving end with your partner adopting the more active, dominant role. The sub / dom thing adds greatly to the experience, above and beyond the merely physical.
Don't even need the bullet with a good quality leather harness and dildo. Helps your partner feel more in control, and gives her some pleasurable feedback all by itself cos the base of the dildo is gonna put pressure on her clit as she thrusts. Good times man, good times. ;)
Me too Magik. Discovering new forms of pleasure hitherto unexplored and unavailable any other way is all part of the fun, and boy, it can be a LOT of fun. Takes some getting used to certainly but the first time you have a prostate orgasm from anal stimulation alone all that time and energy spent getting used to the sensation suddenly seems to have been very much worthwhile. As with most things in life, I'm firmly in the 'don't knock it until you've tried it' camp. Best try it more than once actually, just to make sure something wasn't amiss the first time if you didn't enjoy it, or it wasn't just a one off if you did. ;)
How bizarre. I was only thinking about this thread today thinking I'd not seen an update from anyone for a while, thinking it might be due one from me, see how everyone else is getting along.
I'm just dandy Anais, thanks for asking. I'm good as six months sober, barring just one very minor slip that I'm not really even counting all that much Xmas Eve. I'd been stressing so much coming up to Xmas about how I was gonna cope with the big family dinner with fifteen of us all crammed in at my Mam's, the place just awash with booze and everyone else drinking from about 11am and on I just caved and bought beer and vodka to have done with the bloody thing, get it out of the way. That's how an addict's mind works, it's completely fucking irrational. I was craving so bad, what with constantly thinking about it and stressing for weeks and weeks on end I couldn't switch it off, made worse by literally months and months of chronic insomnia getting about three - four hours sleep a night, every night, if I was lucky. Never more than that really, sometimes less. My resistance was gone, my resolve just completely broken, but even so drank less than half of what I'd bought, less than two beers and a double vodka I'd barely had a sip from before throwing it all down the toilet. I didn't even drink enough to feel it really, let alone get drunk.
I'm counting that as a win, despite the slip, because I was able to exert some control. I'd never have been able to dump the stuff a few months back, come what may. I'd have downed the lot and probably gone back out to buy still more. The annoying thing is Xmas dinner was great, didn't bloody bother me at all, stressing about nothing. Was perfectly happy drinking soft drinks and glad I was sober later when everyone else was getting well messy. Oh well.
Anyways, since the twelve days off at Xmas playing catch up my sleeping pattern seems to be returning to some kind of normality at long last, and my mood has just gone through the roof because of that. I keep catching myself, surprised at just how bouncy and smiley I am at the moment. No cravings whatsoever again now too so the resolve is back in full effect, and I'm finally making strides as far as the next stage goes applying myself to things I want to do with the rest of my life that the booze had put on hold. That's where the rewards really start to kick in. Realised there are no rewards as such just from stopping drinking, it's what stopping drinking enables, so that's something else I'm counting as a win at last too. I feel really positive going forward for the first time in years. It's a good feeling. I want more of it. A lot more of it, and I'm going to bloody well make sure that I get it! smile
I was going to say ( Om nom nom nom. :lickface: ) but reading up on it seems she's not an alien at all. She's from earth in the future. Bugger! So, as is my wont I'm gonna go off on a slight tangent and I'm gonna be the alien. One possessed of the kind of DNA a snail has been blessed with ( hermaphroditic ain't they, both sex organs, yer snail ). And tentacles. Lots and lots of tentacles. And a big long tongue. Think that'll do me nicely. Hopefully Jane'll be mightily impressed with it too.
Too Hot, exactly. It may be true that the majority of people in this country want a referendum on our continuing membership ( though I suspect that claim, like any poll is based on a tiny sample not at all representative of the national demographic ) but how many of those could claim to really understand the ins and outs of it all. Every single one of us gets our information from partial sources with an agenda, the kind of spin the likes of the Daily Mail etc put on this question mostly pandering to petty prejudices and a Little England mentality that I actually fear. The thought that your average Sun reader is gonna be given the chance to take us out of Europe cos of the kind of human rights gone maaaaad bullshit they're often presented with and do not fully understand, at all, fills me with dread.
That may be patronising, that may be me denying my fellow citizen's ability to properly take part in the democratic process but on this issue the whole thing is so spun to death it's hard for any of us to know what the real truth of the matter is, myself included. For that reason I'm happy to leave well alone, knowing my understanding is limited. I know what the benefits are, they in my view outweigh any downsides to membership, and certainly outweigh what is in the main the unknown quantity that is full withdrawal from the EU, and whatever consequences might follow from that.
Well Minxy . . . .
Oh, never mind, it's really complicated and probably wouldn't make any sense, I wouldn't want to bore the forum with it . . .
Get rid of the Godlike for me Losty, I wouldn't bat an eyelid. I see it in a completely ironic way anyways, I know damn well I'm anything but. It always was meant to be viewed through the lens of irony I think, but hey, I don't give a flying one about my forum rank, or the prospect of not having one. I'd be stunned if it changed anything whatsoever as far as how n00bs approach the forum though, I think the argument that was made there on the other thread was largely bullshit.
Post counts though, along with join dates can be useful I think. A join date on its own means nothing. There will be account holders out there who've barely set foot in forum or chat since registering their account years ago. At least the post count is an indication of which of us has actually been active to some degree on the site over the years. I accept there are other ways of checking like a search on forum posts but the post count is there at a glance. It doesn't necessarily indicate a genuine member, but it gives an idea who might be worth looking at in more depth for new users perhaps, IMO. It's not an ego thing at all I assure you.
Having said all that if the majority view was get rid of it I really couldn't give a rat's ass mate.
You're dead right Losty. The endless refrain of 'the search button is your friend' wore pretty fucking thin, always from the same people, always directed at n00bs wanting to engage with us and finding their attempt at conversation ( which is what the forum is here for FFS! ) thrown right back in their face. Used to piss me right off, could be nothing but off-putting. The search button may have been their friend, but carry on like that Mr ( or Mrs ) it's gonna be the only friend you have on 'ere to talk to before long, and now look. rolleyes
Edit: I just went off to check that I'd never used the above phrase before anyone else did and pulled me right up on it. Seems I did, but only ever ironically, luckily. Phew! Nice bit of Googling through old threads, I just made me laugh so well though with this blast from the past on this very subject. lol I wouldn't know where to start doing that anymore, one in a series of long and arduous scientific investigations I once conducted on 'ere. I wish I knew how to get back to it. sad
Oddly, as I remember it far from stirring the forums up in a positive way Kent contributed greatly to a somewhat poisonous atmosphere. Lots found him offensive, plain and simple as far as I could see from the conversations that took place in PM and elsewhere, were a little pissed off he'd not been banned sooner. Trouble was he couldn't take criticism, resorting to personal abuse all too often when he'd run out of actual argument, such as those arguments were to begin with. Often that would spill over into other threads to the point the whole forum was infected by it and other regs just stopped posting cos they were sick of bloody seeing it.
It's my feeling the CA forum was hived off from the Cafe in the first place to try and contain that kinda thing a little more, parking the kind of controversial threads he delighted in starting, sometimes by way of simple trolling for a reaction in my view off somewhere by themselves. I highly doubt a mod here would ever confirm that, if true, but that's my take it on it anyways, so no, no amnesty for Mr Kent thanks. Ta.
Quote by Sgt Bilko
I think the decline started when Sgt Bilko moved to Australia! wink

Hmmmmmmm. On balance Sarge I'd say it was one of the few things that's happened on here in years gone by that's actually improved things. Security round the GFZ is much better than it was when you was in charge, we've got half a dozen minimum wage uniformed dudes on split shifts these days for what you got paid for an eight hour stint all on yer tod. Gotta economise in these financially straightened times we live in mate yer see, you were just too expensive. These guys don't insist on armoured vehicles and stuff they can rally round the car park in convoy for one, job lot of company cars from Skoda, they're happy as pigs in shit. Downside is I've not managed to break in for a cheeky jacuzzi without having to wipe down the tide mark and other sundry stains I don't care to investigate too much in years, but hey ho.
No need to be so defensive Robbo. Maybe 20 different posters on this thread, you've taken umbrage with one of them who questioned what you were driving at and whether your argument was valid, but you've had responses from what, another four of us engaging in the discussion with you in a way that there would be little to take issue with, surely? What does that tell you? That on balance those who chose to respond did so because they acknowledged your right to hold your opinion, the exact opposite of what you suggest, and felt something you said was worth responding to? You're saying people will be intimidated by something as inconsequential as a forum rank, we've just demonstrated that there is no reason for that, it's you who chooses to be intimidated by it. Why? We can't do much about that Robbo if you're gonna insist on it, can we?
Noone wants to feel small when they join the forum? Every single one of us started on the forum with a single post and went from there. We all felt small when we started to engage with those who'd preceded us. We all had to work at acceptance carving out our own personal niche testing what worked for us, and what didn't. If ever we made spectacular twats of ourselves I can guarantee you we'd have been told to wind our fucking necks in and have a word with ourselves, some being more or less polite about that than others. To imagine that things are somehow sooooo different for new users than they were for every single one of us in terms of how to approach the forum is just plain wrongheaded.
There is sometimes a difficulty new users face in that others have to learn to read them. It takes time for a poster to establish something of their character, and takes time for others to get where someone might be coming from. It can often cause misunderstanding. Again, we've all been there, the only way to get past that is to keep revealing more of your personality and help others read you as you intend. If you don't put the effort in you'll never get there. Not much anyone can do about either, it's entirely up to you.
Nicely Cubes. And look what's there, not halfway down the page. Steve_G on pointless posting just to up post-counts on the Ping Pong thread just as we've been discussing here, and further discussion on the value of post counts generally. =D
Loving the page you fetched up. Agricola / Articifer Xmas Tale and DaveJ Avatar Challenge FTW! biggrin It just wouldn't work these days a thread like that, not for 30 pages of it from loads of regs but rotflmao all over again at it. Cheers. smile