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neilinleeds
Over 90 days ago
Bisexual Male, 56
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Quote by Stevie_and_Kitty
I also have another (G) arguing in a thread, when the other poster is so at odds with your view and is polarised after the first couple of times of "well you would say that" and "I knew that was going to be your opinion" and "so you really believe that" I think to myself I really can't be arsed wasting time replying. I go and do something a lot more enjoyable like cleaning my V8 4x4

rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Yes, that too. And (H), haven't we done all this before, Jesus, how many more times, FFS? lol
Quote by flower411
And don`t worry we`ll have a few moments of silence every so often to let you get a word in ....

rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Cheeky fucker, what you trying to say? Twat! lol
I can say in all honesty that I really, sincerely hope I am able to put in an appearance tonight. I am currently sat in hospital. Getting home tonight will be a great relief!

I feel like I should somehow have known this but have not picked up on it? confused Hope you're OK? See you later if you manage to join us.
Quote by Too Hot
If you are unfortunate enough to live in a "safe" seat area as I do, it is pretty pointless voting really. I would never have voted labour but round these parts they would vote in a chimpanzee if it was wearing a red rosette so I gave up long ago. In fact, I think I only ever voted once in my life and because of this voting nonsense in a safe seat I am a conscientious objector to even being on the electoral register so never will pass my pointless vote ever again.
Voting reform to include PR "may" see me back on the electoral register, but I can't see it happening.

Same most places really isn't it Too Hot. We make a pretence at representative democracy and we do I guess but the cleaving of Tory / Labour heartland depending on local economic conditions and demographics means little chance of effective change as far as our small voice being heard goes, unless everyone else in the main decides to follow suit and just not turn up imagining history as a guide means yet landslide for the Labour / Tory candidate. It's wrong that real influence re: balance of power lies only with the small number of marginal constituencies that swing elections, everyone else might not as well have played.
Lib Dems fucked their chance at reform here, completely blew it. When the tide was already turning against them as far as popular support for them as a whole was waining re: 'the great betrayal' why risk their one shot with their flagship policy. It was bound to be impacted on by a general antipathy towards them in spite of the merits of the case in itself. Blown it, there'll not be another referendum in my lifetime I reckon now. Tory and Labour alike did everything in their power to resist reform in the first place, first past the post very much works for them to the exclusion of all others but now the people have spoken they'll be even more resistant to further opportunities to strengthen the hand of minority parties at their expense, they've been handed the perfect excuse. Stupid, Clegg got suckered. His party will be rid of him come next election results for that alone. He's consigned them to long decades in the political wilderness all over again after decades of hard work had just about get them out from there.
Yeah, Chameleons would probably be the natural first choice for most that neck of the woods wouldn't it Nellie. Never been there yet, somehow never got round to it, been threatening to go for years.
Xstasia West Brom could be a good option. Been there, very night clubby feel ground floor, would barely know it was a swinging club were it not for the girlies tending to be wearing lingerie and fetish type stuff and little else. ;) Play rooms upstairs in the loft were basic but adequate when I went though none with locked doors IIRC, may be a consideration, maybe not? Downstairs social area off the main club / dance floor area had BDSMesque racks and benches when I went for those fancied putting on a bit of a show. Think we put some people quite off their drinks making use of it when G and I went, you'd think they'd never seen an attempt at fisting someone in cuffs before? lol
Mixed crowd but perhaps a little younger than you might expect ordinarily at a club, and I got the impression a lot were there more for the eroticism of flaunting / exhibitionist stuff in a night club atmosphere more than were actually there to play the two or three times I went. May be being unfair there and just not very representative crowd those nights.
AtlantisEvolution in Stoke is well reviewed. Anyone been? Now you have Mids, reg there IIRC ain't you Jed? And a listing for NottinghamAdultParties there but no reviews. Anyone done those?
All these from the Clubs link over <<<there BTW TwoForOne. Hope you find something fun that suits you. ;)
Yay, Losty's going! Get to meet up at long last. Not before time, been far too long. smile
Quote by Steve
Meh....
The only Sunday in May when I'm busy :-(

Bugger. That sucks. Sorry Steve mate, would have been good to see you. Been a while. sad
And thanks Dawnie. Keep seeing my name down as the solitary single m going so far. Not seen my name on a list like that for a while. It's strange. Not used to it yet, clearly. confused
Cool! I think I shall brave the chatroom confusion of multiple convos at all angles and tangents for once, see how I fare. Do not expect sparkling wit and repartee from me tho, may take a while to get back up to speed. lol
And the name of this chatroom will be? Something obvious so I can find it. Like 'Forum Chat' maybe? confused
Hilary Benn my local MP Trev. Based on his couldn't really say as I could really support him personally and certainly couldn't vote through him indirectly for Gordon Brown either last election. Most displeasing as a natural life-long Labour voter though initial support for Blair as a long needed chance to put the Tories out that I so despised soon turned to disgust, Labour lost my vote with him very quickly, and Hilary sure ain't his father.
Lib-Dem candidate, though a wasted vote in this constituency anyways despite being second most often with Tories third as my only real alternative of the three main parties was a uni lecturer living in leafy suburbia getting out towards Otley, North Leeds. WTF does he know about life in the inner city sink estates that form Leeds central? No activism here that I'm aware of anyways.
My vote went to the independent Martin Bland standing as the We Beat The Scum One-Nil party. Only one among 'em said anything I could really support! lol
Ah, but a group effort GnV that's often not fully acknowledged. The first sperms to arrive secrete enzymes to break down the ovum wall dying little spermy deaths in the process so that by their sacrifice taking one for the team one of their slower comrades can finally burrow on through. We salute you little spermies, your sacrifice was not in vain. sad
Just sayin', for no reason I can even begin to explain or even fully grasp myself? confused
lol
Oooooh, profound quotes thread is it? Forgive me, this is gonna be a long post but lots of stuff I find particularly instructive belongs here so I'm just gonna splurge a few out. Oh, and I have lots more where this came from! lol
Quote by HH The Dalai Lama, Tenzin Gyatso
Never give up
No matter what is going on
Never give up
Develop the heart
Too much energy in your country
Is spent developing the mind
Instead of the heart
Develop the heart
Be compassionate
Not just with your friends
But with everyone
Be compassionate
Work for peace
In your heart
And in the world
Work for peace
And I say again
Never give up
No matter what is going on around you
Never give up

Quote by Khalil Gibran
Advise me not, my blamer, for
Calamities have opened my heart and
Tears have cleansed my eyes, and
Errors have taught me the language
Of the hearts.
...
Go from me, for you are taking away
Life - giving repentance and bringing
Needless words.

Quote by Robert Anton Wilson
Nobody sees the obvious, nobody observes the ordinary. There are more miracles in a square yard of earth than in all the fables of the Church.

Quote by Henry David Thoreau
Why should we be in such desperate haste to succeed, and in such desperate enterprises? If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.

Quote by Fyodor Dostoyevsky in The Brothers Karamazov
Above all, don't lie to yourself. The man who lies to himself and listens to his own lie comes to a point that he cannot distinguish the truth within him, or around him, and so loses all respect for himself and for others. And having no respect he ceases to love

Quote by Michel de Montaigne
He who establishes his argument by noise and command, shows that his reason is weak.

Quote by Milan Kundera
Anyone whose goal is 'something higher' must expect someday to suffer vertigo. What is vertigo? Fear of falling? No, Vertigo is something other than fear of falling. It is the voice of the emptiness below us which tempts and lures us, it is the desire to fall, against which, terrified, we defend ourselves.

Quote by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said "This is mine," and found people naïve enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody.

Quote by Jonathan Huie
Stop holding on to the past. Release your regrets about whatever you may have done or failed to do that turned out poorly. Forgive others for whatever they may have done or failed to do that cause you harm. Declare today to be a new beginning. Let go of the past and move on with creating a joyful new future for yourself

Quote by Antoine de Saint-Exupery
I have no right, by anything I do or say, to demean a human being in his own eyes. What matters is not what I think of him; it is what he thinks of himself. To undermine a man's self-respect is a sin.

Quote by Vasily Grossman, Life and Fate
I have seen that it is not man who is impotent in the struggle against evil, but the power of evil that is impotent in the struggle against man. The powerlessness of kindness, of senseless kindness, is the secret of its immortality. It can never by conquered. The more stupid, the more senseless, the more helpless it may seem, the vaster it is. Evil is impotent before it. The prophets, religious teachers, reformers, social and political leaders are impotent before it. This dumb, blind love is man’s meaning. Human history is not the battle of good struggling to overcome evil. It is a battle fought by a great evil, struggling to crush a small kernel of human kindness. But if what is human in human beings has not been destroyed even now, then evil will never conquer.
Yes, yes, yes please Dawnie. :mrgreen:
Dress to impress eh, smart suits? Yes, I think I could give one of them a spin. Hmmmmm, traditional dinner suit and dicky-bow or smart cas relaxed and a loose, unbuttoned sexy shirt? Option two I think.
*polishes shoes*
Quote by Cubes
It always comes down to the same old thing:

If we allow some freedom of expression and ignore certain comments, we're letting some people take liberties.
If we take action following an official complaint, we're victimising.
The fact of the matter is that 'we' don't have time to read every forum post, or critique them in context with all the previous posts in the thread or, indeed, the entire forum.
The bottom line is that we aim to treat everyone equally, and if anyone has a complaint to lodge against another Site member, or one of their forum posts, there are buttons readily available to report them.
Specific instances will not be, nor should they be, discussed in public.

Fair post Cubes. I understand it's a difficult line to tread, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Think leaving things for adults to sort things out between themselves is very much the way forward. Some of the worst complainers ( Flower, this does not mean you specifically, general comment, take it as such. ;) ) are also among the first to dish it out, which makes their complaint look very childish at times, not to mention hypocritical to the Nth degree. rolleyes
Quote by deancannock
well...been here long enough to remember when the forum and the chat rooms were ruled with a much more stringent hand.....I for one think the forums are now moderated very fairly.....

Agreed Dean. As per above, and I too remember when things were a lot more draconian. ( Draconian possibly wrong choice of word. Stringent is probably better! ;) )
Quote by flower411
"I think the Jeremy Clarkson approach should be taken with anyone who drives a 4x4. Shoot em in front of their families."
And it passed without comment ... but the comment above is so clearly in breach of the AUP it`s hard to believe that it is still there .

In what sense does it breach the AUP Flower? I can't see it. Clearly Staggers was not being serious for one, anyone who took it as such, 4x4 driver or no probably needs to have a word with themselves ( though I doubt anyone did, or was properly offended by it ) for two, the only part of the AUP that could even be remotely relevant does not apply for three:
Quote by In the Admin"]Abusive, aggressive, hateful or racist behaviour towards fellow members, Ops/Mods or Administration staff.

The comment was not directed at anyone in particular, or abusive of them. Some might choose to see it as aggressive if they're an especially sensitive little 4x4 driver but really? Come on. Don't be bloody daft FFS. Get a grip!
Hahahahaha! I take it all back. Funny bleedin' fucker! There's another three for you, now piss off! lol ;)
24 posts already
Shockingly blatant post-whore
Settling in nicely
Entertaining so far
Good little newbie
Take your pick Medman, five ( yes, count 'em, five! ) choices for your three words for you. No, no need to thank me, you knock yaself out fella. ;)
Quote by medman2000
Glad you can see it, those of you who can see it that is wink
this is a good picture, full of filthy promise until you find out it's in your mind lol :wink:

Whaddya mean, all in my mind? The dude is clearly giving the girl head and she's making no bones about her enjoyment of it, the brazen hussy. On a family beach too. Didn't even take themselves off to the nuddy one for a bit of al fresco fun. rolleyes
And then there's the FedEx arrow, can you spot it? Like the Flowers one, once you see it, you'll never see anything else :lol:

I looked and looked and still couldn't see it, had to Google in the end. Doh! Yeah, it's obvious now? confused
Quote by starlightcouple
What are you so scared of Neil? Many people want out of Europe which is UKIP's main political tool. The rest is typical of the left's agendas.

I'm scared that quite a lot of the people who say so vehemently they want out of Europe and might be inclined towards voting UKIP get their information from partial sources like the Daily Mail with its similarly xenophobic Little Englander mentality and occasional display of out-and-out overtly racist bile at times and so may not be in full possession of all the facts required to make a proper judgment on the issue, the agenda being led by newspaper owners whose personal interests on this might be very different from your average working Joe on the street they are seeking to influence in this direction.
As a Guardian reader I accept I face the same issues of bias and have the same partial understanding as your average Daily Mail reader so don't think I'm asserting my superiority over choice of reading material but knowing my understanding is limited on this I chose to leave well alone as it's clearly outside my area of expertise. Others sometimes seem not to be so reticent about making fundamental changes despite not having a full grasp of the bigger picture. If being in Europe was so clearly detrimental to the UK d'you not think one party or the other would have pulled us out by now? Instead successive Govts seem willing to bind us ever more closely within it, even Tory ones. I wonder what it is those in Govt know that leads them to conclude that for all the maddening frustrations of its bureaucracy we're better in than out? Hmmmmm? Do you? I suspect not.
The highlighted but is an absolute load of old tosh Neil, and you know it. Why the scaremongering tactics? I thought you was better than that Neil to be honest, and I am disappointed in you. Ben I expected his comment, but I thought you had a bit more sense.

Not scaremongering or a load of old tosh at all. Note I did not say the part you bolded applies to all UKIP supporters. I said it applies to some and UKIP is the vehicle by which they assert their Little England xenophobia. It's a comment on some of its members, not UKIP itself, though it may also be true of some of UKIP's core activists. It's interesting though that the rise in support for UKIP coincides with the utter implosion of the BNP don't you think? Interesting enough for more than one commentator to suggest a link. Be more interesting still further to see how the polling compares in future elections.
Agreed Ben. It's a more genteel version of the BNP for some possessing a similar kind of naturally right wing Little Englander mentality but who find Griffin and his ilk a little brutish for polite company, they like the veneer of respectability UKIP affords for their thinly-disguised xenophobia, though even with UKIP the veneer is wafer thin. Don't believe withdrawal from Europe is anywhere near as advantantageous as UKIP would claim, or as straightforward with real downsides to it. Think the whole question more or less moot anyways, only the Tory right hankering for an England that never really existed for most of us making out it's the burning issue of our time anyways, UKIP is a useful foil for them. Would life in this country suddenly be hugely different for your average Joe if UKIP implemented their entire manifesto overnight? Would it fuck. Kick all the recent European immigrants out today and you might even find things are actually worse for it with the loss of their contribution to the net economy.
Generally speaking I prefer my genitalia free of hard, sharp objects that present a choking hazard if they should come off through over-vigourous oral attentions or light up the dental nerves like a christmas tree if they make contact with the bare metal at the back of my bridge. Like sucking a nine volt battery so it is! lol I've enjoyed a nibble and tug at a clit ring before now, quite a novel experience but I prefer my clitorises as G*d intended. Could come in handy for navigating in the dark though, possibly by attaching a small bell to it for an aural cue to general direction, or maybe a collection of little LEDs forming an arrow or runway landing lights, that sort of thing?
Was fascinated the first time I saw a Prince Albert up close and personal with a guy from here showing it off to a couple of interested viewers at one of the first clubs I ever went to. Briefly considered one hearing him talk about the positive things it did for his and his partner's sex life but the thought of infection or potential nerve damage in a place I'd like to keep as sensitive as I can outweighs any advantages, not to mention the thought of being condemned to a life of sit-down wees if removing the thing leaves me with something very like a garden sprinkler. Thought of giving a guy with one a BJ does not hold much appeal, be likely to smash my bridge to bits if the guy's a bit too quick with the thrusting movements, don't even think about trying for a deep-throat, and they seem quite unhygienic no matter how much time and energy devoted to cleaning any gunk.
I do like nipple piercings for a bit of extra tuggability and tease factor. Preferably just the one so a nice bit of variation, soft, smooth, suckable, chewable nipple one side, biteable, tuggable nipple the other. Only piercing I've ever really properly considered myself, may still get it done one day. Depends how gay I'm feeling when the money, desire and opportunity combine at an apposite moment. ;)
I did my three words thing right Flower. It's that Minxy did it all wrong. Can't even remember the rules of her own game. Is she getting on a bit or summink? Forgetful like all of a sudden? Comes to us all in the end I s'pose?
Anyways, Flower: Argumentative, sometimes rightly. How's that? I understand you Flower and think you're ok, even if thousands don't? lol ;) Always been thoroughly decent and good-natured in PM.
Thanks Neil X

No, thank you! kiss smile
Open, tolerant, good-natured. Heart clearly in the right place, not afraid to call things how he sees them. Good guy. smile Should post more Paddy.
After reading a couple of posts from neil today. He has mentioned about the forums being the place where your natural character comes out more so than the chstrooms. I do and don't totally agree as I think people can have many sides of their personality which show in different places and moods.

I am delighted to have so inspired you Minxy! lol And yes, you're probably right. Chat allows those with a quick wit to really shine for example, that may be less apparent on the forum given the pace. Horses for courses maybe?
Very disingenuous that article Blue I think, the argument is not a valid one. The deer are presumably eaten as food once shot, the shooting is simply the slaughtering process used in this method of farming deer. May be a fun day out for the hunter in a way that is profitable for the farmer but that's an incidental bonus to the primary aim of food production, culling deer populations being necessary to maintain a healthy, sustainable herd while simultaneously putting food on the table. It's not the same. The badger cull is only indirectly linked with food production, and its value in protecting food production whether milk or beef is highly questionable. Would need to be much more certain of a positive effect before any cull could be justified, assuming there were no other measures available, which is also highly questionable. Anyways, the article is a transparent ad hominem attempting to smear Brian May personally, presumable because the CA's argument is so weak they have to resort to playground tactics and does not have popular support.
I haven't worked the avatar out, do I need to squint as tried that and it didn't work either.

Nope! lol No squinting or making yourself go all boz-eyed like what you have to do to make a shark appear suddenly out of a repeating pattern, anything like that. It's there in plain view. You'll kick yourself when you spot it, wonder how you missed it? No clues though, I'm not spoiling Medman's fun toying with you! ;)
larger image of it in my pictures.

Lies. Only picture I found in your profile is of a cock wearing sunglasses and smoking a fag. Did noone ever tell you it's not good for your testicles, smoking, especially not with the fag in question that bloody close to 'em. Cringing at the possible singing. ;) Looks nothing like that picture over <<<there either.
Took me a while to see it, properly head scratching. Once seen cannot be unseen, you're right! How did I miss it before? lol
Living near a very busy roundabout in London where traffic is heavy seven days a week, cars and others constantly belching out toxic fumes, children around here with a higher than national average asthma levels, and the Government do nothing, and yet decide to protect the non smokers in pubs. Many people around here have not a choice or a chance of moving away. As GnV mentioned earlier about legislation to keep heavy polluting vehicles out of London is correct, but I live on the borderline of that congestion zone. Imagine that if you will. Max wants rights to be able to go into a pub and not breathe in other people's smoke, where are my rights and the rights of my neighbours not to breath in daily amounts of toxic car fumes?

Not a particularly good analogy, a bit apples and oranges. Transport requirements are not especially well served by public infrastructure for many as yet making a car a necessity for some, distribution of the deemed-to-be necessities in life inevitably means ever greater numbers of trucks and vans. An instant ban on traffic is hardly practical. What you do do is penalise emissions higher than is strictly necessary and strive for fuel efficiency until cleaner sources of energy become properly and widely available to limit the damage done as far as possible. That's sensible, but it's not the same as the simple choice made in favour of none-smokers over smokers. Impossible to opt out completely leaving no carbon footprint whatsoever even if you use public transport exclusively. Still a constributor indirectly.
Of course the safety net should be there, but Government figures on welfare cheats cannot be ignored. Billions of pounds every year is being lost to incompetence and fraud. Check the Government's figures on people who were long term sick, who failed to turn up for their assessments Neil.

Fraud as a percentage of the total welfare bill is relatively small and a bit of a red herring IMO. Of course fraud should be addressed to minimise it as far as is possible, as should swinging the lead. It is a fact though that sickness benefit has been used in the past to obscure the real unemployment figures when it suited with benefit offices steering borderline cases towards sickness benefits instead of JSA, which would account for why so many are now being found not to be quite so ill that they cannot work at all. Also true that appeals against the ATOS Work Capability Assessments are upheld in nearly half the cases where the genuinely sick have been wrongly declared fit for work so keep that in mind. The savings in the end may not be as great as has been suggested perhaps?
And what you say here has a permanence to it that someone can still come across long after the thread has sunk into the archives so your real personality becomes more apparent as it's revealed more over time as you accumulate posts. Harder to fake it here for long for sure, the mask always slips at some point for those that try it. And the regs are very regular, will come across a core of regular posters day in, day out and though that core changes over time it's not as changeable or as large as the list of regular people in a particular chatroom so you get to know them and they get to know you fast.
Wouldn't say you notice that you've been ignorant of people in the chatroom all of a sudden if I got that right. Not always possible to respond to everyone aims a comment at you, miss a lot and have to be selective in the conversations you join in with depending how many you can juggle all at once but same applies here. You don't respond to every post and every poster but perhaps more obvious who you're choosing to respond to and who you're not if anyone's ever inclined to read anything into that at all? Just as selective with the threads you join in with.
Quote by Paddy
F = Fear for newbies.
Sometimes the Forum can be dominated by the regulars, that in-turn installs fear.
I think the Forum is a far better place to get to know people ver chatroom, but each to their own.
There's alot of reputition in Forums especially on Swing Sites.
Sometimes it takes fellow members time to build up the courage to reply in the Forum.
Paddy
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Agreed on pretty much all the above. It can be particularly intimidating where backbiting and personal animosities among the regs is apparent, probably causes some to wonder if established regs treat each other like that how will a complete n00b fare. There doesn't seem so much of it of late though saying that, what there is is maybe more apparent to regs who'll pick up on it more knowing the histories better perhaps? dunno
Think the forum definitely helps bring out the personality of posters more, makes them easier to get to know more fully cos it allows for greater expression on a wide range of topics in a context that has permanence, not as transient and off-the-cuff as the chatroom so think more thought is put into a properly considered post. Usually anyways! ;) Its greater depth is what gives it the appeal for me.
Surely noone's using this thread as an excuse for a bit of a dig, are they? That would hardly seem reasonable? Buy hey, what do I know, sure it's just friendly banter, nothing more. confused
This was one of my favourite posts. Quite pleased with it at the time, think it was the first I tried of what became a short series of stupid bloody threads just name-checking lots of the other regs at the time. The direction wasn't quite what I envisaged when i posted it but still, first post was good! smile
Quote by neilinleeds on "]((( a lithe and supple shadow darts through the woods, hugging every contour, dressed all in black . . . . )))
shhhhhhhh!!!!!!
<<< flits from tree to tree, shadow to shadow . . . . >>>
you haven't seen me right! that's why i'm wearing black!
<<< tiptoes stealthily to the edge of the treeline . . . . >>>
d'you like it? found a lovely all-in-one catsuity thing in satins wardrobe. quite fetching eh? gave me an idea.
<<< trains binoculars on SH HQ . . . . >>>
<<< sprints across open ground, dodging arc-lights and patrols with big 'orrible alsations with huge teeth and stuff . . . . >>>
s'ok these foot patrols are rubbish. Sarge is only paying 'em £3 an hour! dogs look a bit nasty tho!
<<< sidles along the wall of the GFZ, and shins up a drainpipe, a bit like Solid Snake maybe, or that other bloke, you know him on the PS2 with the three lights on his hat . . . . >>>
look, i don't know what he's bleedin' called do i? i haven't got a bleedin' PS2. you know who i mean! he's on telly all the time! it's a game FGS! anyway be quiet i'm creeping . . . . that means you Shireen i said FGS not the other one ok! :P
<<< tuts quite quietly . . . . >>>
<<< takes a glass cutter and inscribes a perfect circle, with an artistic flourish, on the GFZ sky . . . . >>>
Venus taught me that. she's quite talented you know!
<<< pours treacle all over and sticks on a big sheet of brown paper, taps, and removes aforesaid perfect circle of glass . . . . >>>
d'you like that? DaveJ taught me that! it's how they used to break into warehouses down on the docklands years ago! how he made all his money!
<<< drops silently from a huge height in a Keanu Reeves stylee to the floor of the GFZ bar . . . . >>>
see. got in easy eh? security my arse. where is the sarge anyways? not seen him for days? dunno
<<< opens a nice chilled Pinot Grigio, and retires to the GFZ jacuzzi, and just for once, finds it totally devoid of Easy . . . . >>>
nice one! i ache all over! now someone hijack this thread and fly it somewhere sunny. i need a holiday . . . . . . . .
Hey Medman, welcome to the forums and all that. smile
Found the chatrooms quite by accident at first, not even looking for a swinging site, knew nothing about it but liked the chatroom immediately, very, very funny some of the people in it back when 200 people in the one room on IRC was a busy night, got into the site bouncing along with them. Didn't get the forums at all when I did finally have a look mooching around the site, first post was quite typically a chatroom related question.
Took me kinda flouncing outta the chatroom for a bit to start reading the forum more about 6 months after arriving here and a bit more posting before I really got it and found my posting boots, first hundred posts even maybe but then a little light went on, been here since. Can't get back into the chatroom now, too fast and too many convos going on. The slower pace suits me but do have to rein in a tendency towards the overly-verbose a lot of the time! rolleyes lol
Seem to have drifted into arguing over the smoking ban which is a little off the original topic as pretty sure that's not the reason for any growth, but . . . as a smoker who was opposed to the ban for my own selfish reasons Max is correct though, the moral right of the none-smoker not to breathe in toxic by-products takes precedence over that of the smoker creating them, can't be argued otherwise. The smoker's right to inflict that can't possibly take priority. And I enjoy going out to smoker's areas when I'm out, they're very sociable places and I've had some real good convos with interesting people I wouldn't otherwise have engaged with which is a massive, unforeseen bonus.
Anyways, agree with you Ben, Parliament could do with a healthier, broader mix of opinion beyond the two and a bit main parties. Wouldn't necessarily want UKIP to influence things too much given their main agenda but special interest and minority parties do highlight issues perhaps not given sufficient priority by the governing parties. There's a need for more of it.
For many it was a massive vote loser to take away people's benefits and cut the Welfare bill, but the Tory.s have with hardly a whimper from anyone

Real long-term savings from this massive assault on the poor with its yet to play out unintended consequences yet to be realised or proven I think Star but it's going through with general popular consent because the politics of envy and the entitlements of the supposed not-so-deserving poor has been so well played. So effectively that people are happy to see their own safety net and that of those they may consider the more deserving poor dismantled wholesale so long as it means the lowering of the lifestyle of the undeserving relative to themselves. Or so it seems to me anyways. Turkeys voting for Xmas, they may regret it if circumstances change and they suddenly need the safety net they're letting go.