my bed when the kids are at their dads lol
or rest bay in south wales its great for surfing during the day and just chilling out when the suns going down.

Quote by Ian
People will often be blinkered into only seeing the area of swinging that they participate in as being encompassed into the term swinging,and any activity that they don't do falls outside, and does not constitute swinging.
I had a good long read at this
Still don't think it fully answers the orignial question though.
Quote by kentswingers777
As long as contributing to the NHS is compulsary through my wages, that alone gives me the RIGHT to free health care.
The health system is suffering hugely because of the ammount of people that do not contribute, be it illegals or people that have contributed nothing, or those out of work.
People are living longer than ever before which also puts a huge strain on things, as there are more pensioners than ever before.
IF I could opt out of the NHS I would yesterday, but I cannot. So on that basis my £350 a month compulsary contribution goes towards whatever illness I may suffer from.
It does not make one jot whether someone smokes or drinks as to what level of treatment they receive.
In my book if you contribute or have contributed over years of paying NHS contributions, that should make you qualify for free treatment no matter how you came by your illness, to suggest that people who smoke should go to the bottom of the list is quite frankly insulting.
I pay my money and that gives me a right to that health care. Oh and also people have known for over 30 years the damage smoking does so that arguement does not hold much substance at all.
That is like saying a scaffolder should not recieve any treatment if he falls of that scaffolding as he knows there is a danger. As it is I also have private health care as if I fall ill I do not want to wait 16 years to be treated for it. I would be seen within a week for a consultant, unlike months of waiting for an NHS one. So I pay twice which makes my NHS contributions even harder to swallow.
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Justifying the discrimination against minorities by pointing out some of the prejudice and discrimination they face is quite the most ridiculous argument I have ever seen.
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So out of ignorance what is ODD?
Is that also not similar to Autism?
IF I saw a naughty child could it have ODD or could it be Autism or could it be just a plain and simple naughty kid? How is any member of the public supposed to know?
So anytime in the future when I see a kid acting like a little toad I will take a step back, and think what could be wrong, instead of the obvious.
Sorry but there are now so many newish terms to describe naughty kids, that I cannot keep up.
That is not being funny, that is how I see it.
When I got home tonight there is a lovely family that lives just around the corner,ya know the sort coppers always knocking at their door etc. Well I got out of my car and crossed the road and this lovely little girl of about ten who lives there gave me the most dirtiest of looks. When I dared to stare back at her in amazement she spat " what you fucking looking at "?
Now what catagory should I place her in?
Quote by GnV
Unbelievable.......words fail me
Laura Ripley who has never worked was given a £8,000 op on the NHS to help her slim down from 38 to 22 stone.
But the 25-year-old, who receives £600 a month in benefits is unhappy because as a result of losing weight she can no longer claim disability allowance amounting to an extra £340 a month. This, she says, means she cannot afford to eat healthily - causing her to pile the weight back on.
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Of course what you are doing is correct but....before you had your child if you saw a really naughty child behaving very badly in a shop, would you not have thought differently to now?
My guess is like most people you would have just seen a naughty child, so do not be too harsh on others, as they only see a naughty child and do not know anything else.
By you putting things on t shirts means you must be bothered by people's actions and looks?
I see naughty kids every week at the supermarket....screaming because they cannot have their sweets or a cake, but I just see a naughty child. Maybe they are just plain naughty and maybe they are not but, I just see a naughty child that needs a smacky poos, which is exactly what others see.
Quote by Funlovers2009
People are very judgemental.....
Our youngest child has severe autism athough he looks completely 'normal' his behaviour is really not!!
Every time we are out whether it be in Tesco, indoor play centres or just out walking you would not believe the looks/comments.
People judging us as bad parents for not being able to control our child!!
I used to get very upset to the point where I did not want to take him out but you cant live a life like that and it is not fair on him as he is a child after all and needs to have fun just as any other child does. Now I just put 2 fingers up to the world. I know I am a good parent and know that my son cannot help or control his behaviours.
I love him to bits but sometimes he is sooooo difficult that I wish for the sakes of my other children that I could turn the clock back and decide that 2 was enough!!!
Judge all you want ..... I dont care!!
Quote by soul-girl
If my brother found that he couldn't have children and I was in a position to help then I'd help him regardless of his sexuality and who his partner was.
Quote by Mr-Powers
Both of the issues.
The fact a Mother can give away a child she has carried for nine months, would not sit well with most Mothers.
And you base this on what??...this is an assumption based on your opinion and only your opinion.
The second Is I believe that this kind of thing is NOT the norm and therefore the child will suffer, from all walks of life.
What is not the norm...surragacy or both sex parents...again this is your assumption based on little or no facts at all...
Forget about the Mother for a moment and think about the child and the level of abuse he will suffer both as a child and as an adult.
Level of abuse from who...what the same level of abuse that any child would get if say other children found out that their parents were swingers!!!
When you are brought up in exceptional circumstances such as this, surely it will have a detrimental affect on the child when older?
Based on what??...if a child is brought up by loving parents regardless of their gender,how this that detrimental,i'm not sorry for saying this Kent...your argument against this is not only bollocks but your selective narrow mindedness is beyond belief...FFS your a married couple that meet up with strangers for sex...is that normal??
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Both of the issues.
The fact a Mother can give away a child she has carried for nine months, would not sit well with most Mothers.
The second Is I believe that this kind of thing is NOT the norm and therefore the child will suffer, from all walks of life.
Forget about the Mother for a moment and think about the child and the level of abuse he will suffer both as a child and as an adult.
When you are brought up in exceptional circumstances such as this, surely it will have a detrimental affect on the child when older?
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If my brother found that he couldn't have children and I was in a position to help then I'd help him regardless of his sexuality and who his partner was.
Quote by kentswingers777
If my brother found that he couldn't have children and I was in a position to help then I'd help him regardless of his sexuality and who his partner was.