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the_Laird
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Hello The Laird
Long time no see / hear / whatever...
Hope you are well.
Regards to your charming other half.
As alive as ever de_sade :wink: your regards have been duly passed.
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Rather shamelessly I had hoped that only those that used the aforementioned items might reply...however it seems that quite a few people feel left out...
:shock: You, of all people, should know better
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Quote by foxylady2209
Am I over-reacting?
In my opinion .....YES!
Seeing a family enjoying time together where they are looking after the safety of their children should be rejoiced should it not??
Allowing young people to actually mature and make the decision to wear a helmet themselves....or not....is a sign to me of good parenting.
Similar thing with all life skills, guide them when they need guiding but bring them up to make their own valid choices.
Whilst I wear a helmet, including a full face helmet for downhill cycling at times, I insist that all those who accompany me or who I coach must wear a helmet to cycle.
There is a school of thought, helped by recent publication of stats from Canada that suggest that wearing a cycle helmet actually can cause more serious injury than not wearing one.
Dont believe it myself having seen fatalities before but each to their own.
I think what you saw, a family enjoying time together, should have made your heart glad in todays climate.
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Quote by Jags
Here's some info about the subject
The bottom line is:
What is the Law Regarding Babysitters?
There is no law in England to prevent anyone of any age babysitting but it is advisable to use someone over 16 years old. A person under the age of 16 cannot be charged with neglect or ill-treatment of a child left in their care. Parents remain responsible and can be charged themselves if their child is harmed in any way.
In Scotland the minimum legal age for a babysitter is 16 years old - BUT even some 16 year olds may not be mature enough to be responsible for the care of young children.
Hope this helps.
:P
Actually......
...the legal position in Scotland is......
There is no specific minimum age for a babysitter (although 16 is often quoted). Parents or carers must adopt a common sense policy, with the babysitter being able to look after both himself / herself and the child.
Similarly, there are no legal guidelines regarding the age at which a child can be left at home alone. The rule of thumb is that the child should be able to look after himself / herself. Again, common sense should apply.
Having said that, under the Children and Young Person (Scotland) Act, 1937 it is an offence for anyone over the age of 16, who has responsibility for a child under that age to willfully assault, ill-treat, neglect, abandon or expose the child. This may include bullying, frightening or causing suffering or injury to the child's health.
Roughly translated, if you leave a babysitter under the age of 16 and something happens to the younger child then you, as the legal parent / guardian, are liable and not the siter.
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Quote by Erotykus
Be honest, when did you last see a dead Tibetan ?
Are you really a wanker or is part of an act?
I feel sorry for all those atheletes who have dreamed of an attempt at glory in the olympics. It's a disgrace that China, with its obvious human rights issues, was ever chosen but I dare say they paid the most in bribes.
If ever there was an excuse for a boycott then it's now. Award the British athletes with a specially crafted medal for their integrity and morals in forsaking their personal goals for the courage to do the right thing and applaud them as heroes.
It may be the only medals they win after all
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Quote by Steve
And lifes too short to go round starting threads about people who like to see good grammar dont you think
Sorry Steve but life being too short has never stopped others from digging up people for their method of posting. Correct me if I'm wrong on that obviously!
The current fantasy thread being a classic example
I reckon that by the response to Cherry's thread there have been quite a few people who have had the same feeling of late. It's a topical thread if ever I've seen one!
Or seen a chance to have a dig :dunno:
Obviously hasn't stopped you.
Personally I've seen it in a positive light and something that we should look at as adopting a welcoming approach to new contributors in the forum whilst giving them the confidence to post in an environment that welcomes their contribution with open, non judgemental arms.
Maybe thats just me.
Tell me steve, do we want to be inclusive?
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Quote by Steve
And lifes too short to go round starting threads about people who like to see good grammar dont you think
Sorry Steve but life being too short has never stopped others from digging up people for their method of posting. Correct me if I'm wrong on that obviously!
The current fantasy thread being a classic example
I reckon that by the response to Cherry's thread there have been quite a few people who have had the same feeling of late. It's a topical thread if ever I've seen one!
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To be honest Cherry I’m very much of the same opinion as you. I’m all for constructive criticism and healthy debate. I just find the whole correcting of spelling at best tiresome and at worse condescending. If that view upsets some people then so be it.
Is there any need to publicly chastise people on a forum for their lack of grammar or spelling ability?
No I don’t think there is.
If, as many have said, the posters lack of spelling, punctuation and grammar has made up your mind not to play with someone then fine, move along. What then gives anyone the right, morally or otherwise, to set about destroying perhaps what little confidence they have built up to post in the first place??
People making the effort to join in should be encouraged. This isn’t an exclusive club for the better educated or more academically able as far as I’m aware or has the site really changed that much???
If it bothers you that much then PM them with some helpful advice. There’s no need to make people seem small.
Is there any need to publicly chastise people on a forum for their lack of grammar or spelling ability?
No I don’t think there is.
If, as many have said, the posters lack of spelling, punctuation and grammar has made up your mind not to play with someone then fine, move along. What then gives anyone the right, morally or otherwise, to set about destroying perhaps what little confidence they have built up to post in the first place??
People making the effort to join in should be encouraged. This isn’t an exclusive club for the better educated or more academically able as far as I’m aware or has the site really changed that much???
If it bothers you that much then PM them with some helpful advice. There’s no need to make people seem small.
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I have had equal measures of despair, agreement and worry over this thread.
I may be unique in my addition to the debate in having first hand experience of the effectiveness in the use of this device in areas of trouble.
I hope that I have had some part in explaining that not all teenagers are trouble makers, far from it, and I hope that the system is used in the same manner as it is in Scotland (although seeing as you lot are allowed to throw speed cameras up just anywhere then I fear not)
Some of the comments on this thread have been exceptionally worrying for the law abiding majority that is the youth of today.
I may be unique in my addition to the debate in having first hand experience of the effectiveness in the use of this device in areas of trouble.
I hope that I have had some part in explaining that not all teenagers are trouble makers, far from it, and I hope that the system is used in the same manner as it is in Scotland (although seeing as you lot are allowed to throw speed cameras up just anywhere then I fear not)
Some of the comments on this thread have been exceptionally worrying for the law abiding majority that is the youth of today.
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Quote by SlurpySarah
I personally think that this device is an excellent idea - it can be turned on when a threat exists and is a non-violent way of preventing possible trouble.
With you 100%
The main thing about all this is the subject of "children's rights". WTF is that about?? Why do they deserve any rights apart from those that we, as adults, allow them? They don't pay taxes and contribute very little to society until they are old enough to work, pay tax and earn their place as full citizens.
So it's the same line of thought for adults who have never worked then? Just because you dont pay taxes doesn't mean you dont have rights. To suggest otherwise is both scary and offensive.
Kids hanging around in groups is usually a symptom of boredom - of them having nothing else to do. Parents - get up off of your lazy arses and ensure that your child's free time is fully occupied!:x :x
SlurpySarah
100% again
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Quote by tyracer
problem is gang of yobs know the law, and know they cannot be touched just moved on.
Not true in Scotland. Dont know about English and Welsh laws.
..but also drive the parents out of the community which let their children run riot.
Already happens in Scotland with evictions for anti social behaviour carried out quite effectively
Once a few hoodies and alike have had such a beating the words spreads and people who seek to behave in an anti-social will walk in fear with one eye looking over the shoulder waiting for it to happen.
So everyone who dresses in a particular way is guilty of anti social behaviour and therefore fair game. Hope to fuck they are not from an ethnic background, gay or catholic as well 'cause thats been used in the past in a similar vein
Im telling only way people understand you are pissed off with intimidation is when a fist or object strikes them hard and puts them down.
Words do not work with these type of people.
Thank yourself lucky shop owners and householders do not have the right to bear arms.
Because these aggressors would be delt with and the police reduced to bin men picking them up off the streets.
The problem with the kind of vigilantism that you are advocating is that it attracts the kind of people who actually believe some of the shite I've just read and you've just written.
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Quote by Lost
I've heard the kids are getting their own back by using it as ringtones on their mobiles so teachers and parents can't hear them............Genius!
:rotflmao: You got to give kids credit where credit is due.
I think that Gothicpunk said most of it for me with his post. I do support the use of such devices though. Maybe there would be a way of regulating the usage. How, When, Where etc.
I do however believe that there is a place and a point to the end that some part of police duties should entail going about on foot, a Visible presence, work at being approachable. . Lets have youth clubs and sports clubs even have surgeries at schools and put a copper or two in them for example?
This I know would not be not an easy thing to achieve given that no one is keen on putting people at undue risk.
Many schools have full time police officers in them (Met has in the region of 200 alone) and the initiative is one which is spreading throughout the uk. Not because a school is particularly bad but because it is seen as a way of breaking down barriers between the Police and young people. I've seen it in action and it works.
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Quote by splendid_
I didn't tar anyone with any brush.
Nor did I say that you did.
Garfield was talking about hanging about/out that is not a crime as far as I am aware. Although I don't work in law, I am sure to get an ASBO you have to be doing something a little more hardcore than just 'hanging about'
Define hanging about? Is the noise that groups make a nuisance or a crime? Is the behaviour that a group may indulge in high jinks or criminal activity?
You see splendid, I wish it was just as cut and dried as that but it 'aint. In fact your rather casual use of the terminology regarding "hardcore" and "hanging about" belittles something that is a major problem to society and by that I mean ALL society. From the people who have to live beside it to the young people persecuted for no valid reason as a result.
I think that as a society we are keen to point the finger and just simply not look at what we can do to change and improve the world around us.
I'm sure we are all ears right now Splendid. I'm always looking for new ways to engage young people away from crime and bad lifestyle choices.
They are crimes and as such should be reported to our overworked policeforce.
Thats where the mosquito device works. I have seen it used in the back court area of an old folks home where young people were congregating to drink, smash bottles, piss up against cars and cause much anxiety to the residents. Similarly I have seen it work in areas where there has been a high incidence of drug abuse and it's stopped a shooting gallery situated beside a nursery.
The Police force are overworked and overstretched. Devices such as these provide a fast and efficient solution to such problems which are compounded by the lack of Police resources.
Your job role doesn't make you more or less entitled to an opinion so I see no reason why you felt the need to mention it.
Now you see that quote really irks me. I use it not to show entitlement to an opinion, I dont need to, but to validate the fact that I have considerable experience in this particular sphere and as such can and do see both sides of the argument. Does that make it any clearer to you or was it originally an attempt at a demeaning "slap down" ??
Our children are our future and as a society we are failing them by criminalising every aspect of their lives.
We are failing them in far greater ways than criminalising their "hanging about". Perhaps if more people were less inclined to spout forth about the problems that kids face and get off their arses and do something positive to make a difference to their community we wouldn't have to keep going around in circles with this age old debate.
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Quote by Freckledbird
how does an inanimate object identify what is anti-social behaviour... ?
still does answer the question, if i have groups of kids hanging out around my unit i wouldn't hesitate in installing said device!
Why because i have the right to protect my investment so i will use what ever deterant there is to do that, simple as.
'hanging around' isn't a crime.
Good point.
Yep
great point. .....as long as you aren't 84 years of age, on your own and they aren't hanging around outside your house until four in the morning, drinking and throwing empty bottles into your garden with all the associated noise that goes along with that.
They are a deterent that works in cases of people causing anti social behaviour and I'm all for them.
Dont tar me with the brush that I hate kids. I spend my working life and a huge part of my social life working with disadvantaged kids in areas of severe deprivation. I know the "blame the kids" culture inside out and vehemently object to it as the sweeping statement it so obviously is but there is no getting away from the fact that at times, kids behaviour is to blame.
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Quote by splendid_
I think it is a perfect idea. Although I think that we should go one step further and imprison all young people from the age of about 18months until they have reached an age where society deems them suitable to live amongst them. (what is that magical age again ?)
thanks for the link I have ordered 14 to surround my house/car/place of work until my new measures of imprisonment are introduced.
sarcasm is the lowest form of wit I know.. but I just can't be bothered with articulating a better response to the 'all young people are gits' argument.
I haven't read the quotes or controversy listed.
My experience of the device is that they are highly effective at combatting ongoing anti socialbehaviour that is caused by groups of youths in specific areas.
