They've obvioulsy never tried to wank into a cup in a clinic without any help or distraction from the surroundings then!
Nor have I by the way hehe! I'm sure I could do it fine without the porn though just based on kink factor :sticky:
I still believe that this sort of act is purely designed to send a message of hate. It only works because of the reaction he knows it will cause. But if his message never gets past his own front gate then there's no reaction.
He can burn what he wants, just don't give him the satisfaction of spreading his vile message. Treat it as the unevent that it actually is. And by doing that it becomes that. The more publicity this act gets the bigger the backlash. That's the real story. That's what he wants to see happen. Deny him his spotlight.
But if it is as Flower describes, 'following people into other threads and even the chatrooms to make insulting comments over and over again' then IMO it's pretty clear which side of the abuse/banter line it's on. And it would be just as clear if it where reported, thats my point. Whoever is experiencing this can easily act on it and have it stopped.
I agree! Certainly in the chat room it would be far more intimidating and confrontational to be receiving insults. If that's happening it should be reported and stopped!
You can't make people get on. You can avoid confrontation on a forum though. Very easily. Minx is right, everyone can chose to respond to or ignore anything they see as provokation.
You might think censorship is fine until it's your veiws that are being censored.
I think the answer here lies with self restraint.
In that case it was a point well made.
So to play devils advocate here for a second, in the future if any posts are deleted will something be put there to show that there was something there? Or would we just not know unless we'd read it before it vanished?
I hate censorship. I'm a grown up. I can make up my own mind about issues. And when the backbiting starts I can make up my own mind who I think is out of order too. I might not always be right but I have that luxury.
Oooh! You quoted me before I'd edited my spelling mistake! :doh:
The populist authoritarianism that is the downside of political correctness means that anyone, sometimes it seems like everyone, can proclaim their grief and have it acknowledged. The victim culture, every sufferer grasping for their own Holocaust, ensures that anyone who feels offended can call for moderation, for dilution, and in the end, as is all too often the case, for censorship. And censorship, that by-product of fear - stemming as it does not from some positive agenda, but from the desire to escape our own terrors and superstitions by imposing them on others - must surely be resisted. ~Jonathon Green
I coudln't put it better myself.
Did someone say lollipops?
And isnt it a tad ironic that a thread about free speech should be more heavily censored than any I've ever witnessed on here?
There's really no point in posting anything if that's going to start being the norm.
The best thing that could happen is that no-one reported on his 'protest'. If no-one saw it it would have no impact. I know its unrealistic to expect that to happen that way. But zero interest in this story would piss on his chips somewhat.
Do what you want, nobody cares, nobody's watching. Make his statement fall on no ears. How much rage and hate can he stir up if no-ones looking? About none I would say.
What awayman said!
Rejecting social morality's a bit off the mark, it's just a bit different to the norm thats all. Mind you when the norms probably affairs and the like I'd say its a much better morality.
Well if you DO want to do anything about the problem there are plenty of things you can do. I was just trying to offer some helpful suggestions. I guess it depends how much the principal of not spending a few quid to sort out the problem is worth. Personally if it were that upsetting I'd say cat repelant was well worth it. It works very well. And would be much easier than getting the law changed.
I've been on a nudist beach where there were families. No-one batted an eyelid at any of it. The majority of people on the beach were naked but not all. And there was no way you could find yourself there by accident, there were plenty of signs on the beach before the nudist area.
I think the more of a fuss is made the more of an issue it becomes. We're talking nudity here, not sexual contact.
And as far as getting changed goes, kids are curious, if they look and see a flash of bum or boob it wont hurt them, and if they comment the worst it'll do is embarrass the hell out of their parent. Still no harm to be done.
Deterents do work. I regularly bought my neighbour pellets to sprinkle around his garden. It doesnt stop the cats going through it but it stops them sniffing around and using his garden as a toilet. Works a treat!
There are loads of other deterents about too, I dont know too much about the infra red ones but if they are that much of a nuisance to you they might be worth consideration.
There are loads of websites on how to keep cats out of your garden using household things too. Fencing isn't the only way. It's pretty easy to make your garden less attractive to use.
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Slight staining?
Triiiiiiiiio! Triiiiiiiiiiiiiio! I wanna Trio and i want one now!
Oh the 80's :thrilled: