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well_busty_babe
Over 90 days ago
Bi-curious Female, 45
Straight Male, 60
0 miles · Staffordshire

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i agree with the fact that other peoples actions do have an impact on us.i would never condem someone for their choices, but it certainly would impact on our choices regarding them.
the way we look at it, our safety is more important that the risk of offending someone.
to be honest its really rare we play, prob 2 or 3 times a year, but then it only takes once to catch someting doesnt it.
we use condoms for sex with other people, not for oral. so i guess there is a risk there. like other people have said, we have weighed up the risks and whilst its not ideal, thats as far as we are willing to take it.
i would not knowingly engage in unprotected oral sex with someone who i knew took more risks than me ( ie sex without condoms) but thats the problem isnt it, the majority of people dont give you their sex cv when you play. and even those who honestly say they dont do bearback, if they have had unprotected oral with someone else who does... its like a domino effect.
it is worrying.
we tend to be tested quite regularly and have been ok up untill now.
fronm the other side of the coin though....
ages ago ( a year or more) we were at a party hosted by a member of this site.
we were upstairs in the playroom with another couple from this site and had engaged in some softswing fun and were then having sex with out own partners.
now me and him dont use condoms between ourselves and so as we had only had sex with each other, and the other couple had only had sex with each other, no condoms were used.
a female half of a couple who may or may not still be members of this site ( i cant be arsed to check) came in the room and commented that we were all disgusting as she had not seen one condom in use during our session!
firstly we put her straight regarding who was with who etc and when she carried on i think i told her in no uncertain terms where she could go.
my question is, does anyone think THAT type of behaviour is acceptable?
i would not eat it, but then i dont eat chicken anyway lol
seriously though, i dont think its worth the risk, i would eat the yummy veg and bin it.
a request!
god this is so embarrasing.
like i said earlier, tonguey had jumbled up some cards in some bags, and as a result we did not know who some of the lovely gifts we recieved were from.
process of elimination have sorted some, but i still am left with
a gorgeous bowl and set of vanilla pot pouree type stuff in a next bag ( i have an idea who i THINK this is from, but have not seen them on msn since last week and am worried that if its not them the real giver may think me very rude lol)
and two bottles of fizz. one was in a black carrier bag and one was not in any bag.
someone has already said one was from them, but am not sure which - so if the other is from you, please tell me lol.
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we just wanted to thank all of you really.
we had a fab time and what made it great was that so many of you made the effort to come and celebrate with us.
i appologise for my slight drunkeness towards the end of the night, i repeat again that some one was putting alcohol in my wine when i was not looking lol :lol:
to everyone who was there ( and also those that coloudnt be there for different reasons) we love you all to death, hugs n stuff again.
we would also like to say massive thanks for all the lovely cards and gifts!
we certainly did not expect it and were overwhelemed by them all. we will of course want to thank you all individually, ( or i would - had tonguey not put all the cards into the gift bags - and so made it impossible to know who some of the things were from rolleyes ) so that may take a bit of time :lol: .
we really hope you all had a fun night and enjoyed it at least partially as much as we did.
a few people have commented to us that it was a lot of planning organising and so on, all i can say is it was worth every minuite of it.
love to you all
WBB and Tonguey
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thank you, all of you for the lovely pms and messages on here.
i am now going to stop boring people to death with it.
but really looking forward to seeing some of you at the weekend, and the rest soon.
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it does appear that different airports have different rules then/
heathrow the other week was having everyone remove their shoes to be xrayed.
and after the normal security, there was aditional random searches of peoples bags.
just a point about tweezers, as far as i have known, tweezers have been banned from hand luggage for years.
every single airport i have flown from has had a no tweezer policy.
a point i would like to make though, all this extra rules does not make us any safer.
i flew into heathrow today, prob one of the biggest terrorist target airports and yet we could have done anything!!!
i was quite flustered and had put two full 500 ml bottles of pop into tongueys hand luggage.
we were asked the normal questions and had said we had no other liquids asside from our small sandwich bags.
the vase went through the scanner and they picked nothing up.
it was only 2 hours later on the plane that i opened the bag and found the bottles!
now that was a genuine error on our part, but how did they not pick it up?
whats the point of all this inconveniece if people can still take the stuff through?
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he aint got hundreds of years left in him! lol
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thaks for re -pming the masses for me hunny xxxx
we got back a couple of hours ago, it was BRILL!
am a bit tired after the travelling but have jumped forward 6 hours so not ready to go bed yet, so you lot have me here lol
thanks for the lovely pms and emails i came back to.
i have hundreds of pics and stuff that i will no doubt bore you all to death with.
now, who is going to bring me upto date with all thats gone on? or do i have to read everything myself?
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anyway, i have other things to be occupying me now.
lovely chatting to you flame, perhaps we will meet in a club one day!
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No Mr Powers, that was not what I was referring to. I meant the implication inherent in your question that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same. You might have not been aware of it but it is present just the same. With reference to my mention of colours & performance, I was giving you an example of a different stereotype where colour was linked to anatomy & performance. Stereotypes can be positive or negative, not necessarily just one way.

i never said that Asian men were happy to attend clubs to have sex with women of other ethnicities but would object to Asian women doing the same...i was asking you for your views on the question i was asking!...remember i was asking a question not making a statement!
mr powers, just leave it, you will never win!
you ask a question and are accused of sterotyping, yet he can make comments that decent people at clubs are " very few and far between" and so on.
just leave him to wallow in his own self inflicted and misery and imagined suffering.
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WBBabe: So why the vehemence? Your post of 2033 & 2038 make a few assumptions about me, none of which I am interested in disabusing you of. .

and almost ALL of your posts have made assumptions about a lot of people who go to clubs!
or is it a case of one rule for you and one for others?
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But I have a feeling that my grasp of statistics is better than yours..

yet anopther of your assumptions, you are getting quite good at it are you not?
i fear you would be shocked if i explained to you just how deep my grasp of stats goes, however, unlike you - i have no wish (or need) to try and prove a point.
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And your post of 1607 said that your questions were addressed to me, hence the answer..

the comments about the numbers of people available to the ops baesed on their own requirements were quite clearly address to them. you felt the need to involve yourself in that.
my one and only question to you was about your attitude and what reason you had to make a statement about how people treat asians in clubs.
a question i might add you have not actually answered, you have not given an example it all boils down to "people you have spoken to felt unwelcome".
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I shall leave you to your indignation.

no, it is i who shall leave you to yours, after all - everyone else ignores you because you are asian - or so you would have us believe.
you know what has pissed me off, you have generallised so much, you have practiacally accused all the non - asian swingers in the clubs you and the "people you have spoken to" of making asians feel unwelcome, uncomfortable and unwanted.
if you go to many places where everyone seems to get on and is socialble with each other, yet you feel like you never fit in, just a thought but it might not always be everyone else who has the problem.
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WBBabe: In answer to your questions, both. But for the benefit of readers I have to reiterate now that it is not my profile or ad that states racial requirements but that of the OP. And as those who have seen my profile can confirm, I am fairly selective myself. Swinging to me is about sharing, not a drive-by. I tried out a fair number of clubs a while ago. Your calculations are wrong. You need to calculate the relative ratios of Asians at the clubs to their success rates compared to those of other groups. The only definitive way of proving this would on the net would be to make up dummy profiles identical except for pics & race & send messages out, totting up just how many struck gold. That however is too much like work. And it can't be done for meets, which is why I asked for peoples experiences & opinions.
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the orgional question was not posted by you, i replied to the origional question showing why there were not many of the people they were looking for.
working our the "ratio of asians at a club relative to their success rate" is quite frankly bullshit!
if there is one asian couple at a club and they dont get laid does that mean it is people not making asains welcome or could it just mean that thoes particular two people making up the couple are not the type of people that inspire people to want to play with them.
the attendence is a MASSIVE factor so it is YOU who is wrong.
it obvious that the more people of a certain "group" attend a club, the higher the numbers of them getting laid.
in any club not every couple pull, if say on an average night 40 percent( to be more than generous) of people in the club get laid, but asians account for only 1 percent of the attendees, they simple maths tells us that its more likely that the asian person will not have got laid.
you can not conduct a meaningfull survey on a minute population. FACT not many asians go to clubs, so it stands to reason that not many asians get laid in clubs!
would not have thought it was sooooo difficult to understand.
i am sure there are many european people who go to clubs and dont get laid, what predudice are we going to lay that on? or can we accept that some people just dont pull!
it sounds to me that you are a little bitter by your own experiences in clubs, maybe you get no attention and it sits better with you to think that people are racist and not interested in you because you are asain, rather than because they are just not interested in you as a person.
you think that you have your race against you with regards to your success in swinging, i would place money on the fact that its more likely your "woe is me" attitude.
ah sorry! my bad
i did not read the names and thought it was the origional poster who had played the " being predudice" card.
i appologise to the OP, its flame hot who i was asking the question of.
i think i have found the problem.
looking at the profile it states asian only, so that limits it to 5 percent of the poulation.
it then says male,( half of the abover 5 percent are fems) so thats limits it to 2.5 percent.
it then says straight ( around 1 in five of the above are bi or gay) so that would limit it to 2 percent of the polulation.
it then says 34 or under.
now bearing in mind the lower age for a member of club is 18, i would say 18-34 years of age is at the MOST a quater of the population, which then brings you down to a quater of two percent, 0.5 percent, so that limits you to half a percent of the polulation.
ie. only 1 person in ever 200 will fit what you are looking for!
no if we consider a swingers club to be made up along the same lines as the general population, then in a
normal sized club holding 100 people you should meet half a person satisfying your criteria.
or in a VERY packed club on a very busy night there should statistically be ONE person who satisfies your criteria.
and this does not even start to take into account what they may not be physically attractive, if we say theat of the people who satisfy what you want, 1 in 5 you fancy.... welll, lets just say you are fucked! (or not as it seems) lol
if you happen to have looked the other direction when they walked past you you have blown it.
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disclamer, this was not a certified study carried out under propper conditions, it was me on my day off!!!
can i ask the op in what way he thinks asians are made to feel uncomfortabel in clubs?
is it that you feel you are ignored?
or people are actually rude to you?
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biggrin Try chesse and blackcherry jam loverly :thumbup:

is that odd?
oops i eat stuff like that all the time lol
tune, i tried to hijack the royal mail van to get the list back, but alas, they were not scared enough of me!
sorry, but hopefully he will have it if you request on the night.
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corrie lol how appropriate
and gem, i agree!!!!!!!! lol
Quote by neilinleedsp.s. yeah, candi statton! smile though, obviously? :P maybe now WBB will stop stalking my PM box, issuing her unreasonable demands to name that tune? confused

oooiiiii, i tried to get you to do the most romatic thing and ddedicate a song to gem, and instead you leave it to her to pick her own!
bloody men! rolleyes :roll: :roll: lol
meant to say, its still got the mingin minge smell too. we were in selfridges food court yesterday buying treats, and the smell of sushi from the other end of the shop was still noticable to me, though tonguey could not smell it.
the thought of it makes me heave, i am the worlds pickiest eater so there is no way i will ever even try it.
even tonguey who eats almost anything wont touch it - so it is saying something! lol
ok. have printed off the list for him, and am posting it to him in the morning, so those of you who have sent them, he should have more than adequate time to get them sorted for you. if anyone else has requests am sure he will do his best on the night if he has them.
ok. have printed off the list for him, and am posting it to him in the morning, so those of you who have sent them, he should have more than adequate time to get them sorted for you. if anyone else has requests am sure he will do his best on the night if he has them.
should be a laugh, if some of you lots music requests are anything to go by lol :lol:
i find it enfuriating.
i end up shouting at the achine in temper.
the worst one i had was bt and after being passed around for 10 mins they cut me off.