2) Taking photographs of Sappho and the children in the midst of a herd of Fallow deer.
3) Playing the piano at a NT property this afternoon, even though only for a few minutes.
Will
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Sex God
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Oh, sod it. Can't resist
I was so hoping this was just a wind up, but knowing the American Chistian right, I fear that it is probably genuine. As always, people who quote The Bible when it comes to morality or sexuality are always quoting selectively. The Bible is actually a collection of books written by many different authors across hundreds of years. Not surprisingly, you can therefore find extracts to support pretty much any viewpoint you wish to extol.
The Bible appears to condemn the wasteful 'spilling of seed', so perhaps that is an exhortation to make sure that you have sex on a regular (perhaps daily?) basis.
Most interestingly, The Lectionary (the table that tells you which passages of The Bible you should reach each day) makes some interesting omissions. Looking into it recently (I won't go into why) I deliberately read the extracts from Genesis that were left out of The Lectionary. Bearing in mind that this is the FIRST book of The Bible, before I was a THIRD of the way through it I was reminded that:
1) Abraham's wife Sara feared that she was too old to have children so she offered her maidservant Hagar to her husband, and Hagar bore Abraham a son (miraculously, so did Sara later on).
2) Jacob wanted to marry Rachel, but her father Laban played a trick on him by letting him into a dark room that contained not Rachel, but her elder sister Leah. The reason given is that Leah is older than Rachel. In other words, you can't marry my younger daughter unless you shag my eldest daughter first. Funnily enough, this is a story that is often neglected by the Christian Right.
Generally speaking The Bible (like most religious writings) is allegorical and not to be taken literally. Unfortunately, religious fundamentalists tend to lack the intellect to realise this.
There is also the interesting and challenging question - why would God give us a libido if he did not want us to gratify it? The traditional answer that it is a test is a) intellectually weak and b) implies that God deliberately wants us to be sexually frustrated. Why would anyone want to worship a God like that?
Will
PS If you want to know why and under what circumstances I have looked into this then feel free to send a PM.
Oh, sod it. Can't resist
I was so hoping this was just a wind up, but knowing the American Chistian right, I fear that it is probably genuine. As always, people who quote The Bible when it comes to morality or sexuality are always quoting selectively. The Bible is actually a collection of books written by many different authors across hundreds of years. Not surprisingly, you can therefore find extracts to support pretty much any viewpoint you wish to extol.
The Bible appears to condemn the wasteful 'spilling of seed', so perhaps that is an exhortation to make sure that you have sex on a regular (perhaps daily?) basis.
Most interestingly, The Lectionary (the table that tells you which passages of The Bible you should reach each day) makes some interesting omissions. Looking into it recently (I won't go into why) I deliberately read the extracts from Genesis that were left out of The Lectionary. Bearing in mind that this is the FIRST book of The Bible, before I was a THIRD of the way through it I was reminded that:
1) Abraham's wife Sara feared that she was too old to have children so she offered her maidservant Hagar to her husband, and Hagar bore Abraham a son (miraculously, so did Sara later on).
2) Jacob wanted to marry Rachel, but her father Laban played a trick on him by letting him into a dark room that contained not Rachel, but her elder sister Leah. The reason given is that Leah is older than Rachel. In other words, you can't marry my younger daughter unless you shag my eldest daughter first. Funnily enough, this is a story that is often neglected by the Christian Right.
Generally speaking The Bible (like most religious writings) is allegorical and not to be taken literally. Unfortunately, religious fundamentalists tend to lack the intellect to realise this.
There is also the interesting and challenging question - why would God give us a libido if he did not want us to gratify it? The traditional answer that it is a test is a) intellectually weak and b) implies that God deliberately wants us to be sexually frustrated. Why would anyone want to worship a God like that?
Will
PS If you want to know why and under what circumstances I have looked into this then feel free to send a PM.
Sex God
Quote by couplefunukYou know? That's what I thought too - and I'm a bloke!
White leggings and a black thong? Classy lady! :-?
*Her*
Yes leggings can be sexy, and thongs are wonderful but they're so much sexier when they are revealed as a surprise, rather than being on display from the start.
Will
Sex God
I hardly know what to say - and that doesn't happen very often!
As several others have said, yours is a name that I look for on threads as I know that the posts are always going to be worth a read.
Sappho has only been back on the scene for a couple of weeks, and already you two were top of a very short list of people that we really wanted to meet. We like your posts, think we are on the same wavelength and you are also quite close. We are desperately sorry to see you go.
Having said all that, only you can know the full details of what is going on in your lives and it is for you to make the call on priorities. Certainly caring for each other must come first and if that means stepping back from this wonderful community for a while, then so be it. You will be missed, and I am sure I speak for everyone here when I say that our thoughts are with you and (for those of us who feel that way) our prayers too. Please take that in the spirit it is intended.
The only piece of advice I have is don't lock the door behind you but leave it slightly ajar. That way, you can still hear the noise from within and may stick your head round the door to silently observe what's going on and, who knows, you may feel like coming back in and joining the party one day. I genuinely hope that you do.
Until then, all the very best to you both and we hope that everything turns out for the best.
Love and best wishes,
Will & Sappho
As several others have said, yours is a name that I look for on threads as I know that the posts are always going to be worth a read.
Sappho has only been back on the scene for a couple of weeks, and already you two were top of a very short list of people that we really wanted to meet. We like your posts, think we are on the same wavelength and you are also quite close. We are desperately sorry to see you go.
Having said all that, only you can know the full details of what is going on in your lives and it is for you to make the call on priorities. Certainly caring for each other must come first and if that means stepping back from this wonderful community for a while, then so be it. You will be missed, and I am sure I speak for everyone here when I say that our thoughts are with you and (for those of us who feel that way) our prayers too. Please take that in the spirit it is intended.
The only piece of advice I have is don't lock the door behind you but leave it slightly ajar. That way, you can still hear the noise from within and may stick your head round the door to silently observe what's going on and, who knows, you may feel like coming back in and joining the party one day. I genuinely hope that you do.
Until then, all the very best to you both and we hope that everything turns out for the best.
Love and best wishes,
Will & Sappho
Sex God
Now, let me see...
Hi, I'm Will - don't know if you remember me, but you have been to my house and met my family! By the way, it's definitely your round.
Tell, you what. I'll order for you. Now, what's everyone having?
Mind you don't trip over that :scared:. Oh dear. I'll get a cloth and a dustpan and brush.
Ermmm, hello?
I haven't actually finished yet. OI!!!
Strengths
Will
Quote by Missy
Weaknesses:
Very forgetful
Hi, I'm Will - don't know if you remember me, but you have been to my house and met my family! By the way, it's definitely your round.
Quote by Missy
Totally disorganised
Tell, you what. I'll order for you. Now, what's everyone having?
Quote by MissyI'll go to the bar and get them.
Lazy
Quote by Missy
Messy
Accident prone
Mind you don't trip over that :scared:. Oh dear. I'll get a cloth and a dustpan and brush.
Quote by Missy
The awful ability to unintentionally tune people out, even when I don't want to do it, something else will grab my attention, and wallop, tuned out
Ermmm, hello?
I haven't actually finished yet. OI!!!Quote by MissyOw, that hurt! :shock: You're not kneading bread, woman. For goodness concentrate on the 'job in hand', if you please.
The inability to be able to concentrate on more than one thing at once
Quote by MissyYes, it must be time you sent me a PM.
Crap at keeping in contact with people
Quote by MissyAre you sure? Are you really sure? Will power is not a thing to be taken lightly. :rascal:
Not much willpower
Strengths
Quote by MissyOh but you are. You really are!
Despite the above, the remarkable ability to be able to persuade people that I'm Bluddy Awesome! :bounce:
Will
Sex God
Sorry I didn't open the bar last night - but we were actually out. For the first time since the little ones were born we went to a proper, grown up party with no children around. A purely vanilla party, I hasten to add. But still - talking to grownups all evening!
It's amazing how many others there were saying the same thing!
Will
I'd better go across and open up the bar now.
It's amazing how many others there were saying the same thing!
Will
I'd better go across and open up the bar now.
Sex God
As Sappho has stated elsewhere, the kids breaking up for school hols puts a bit of a damper on any plans.
However, she did send me a text the other day saying, "Why don't we get Sappho Jr to babysit one evening and go out to take some pics." :shock: :twisted: :twisted:
So, if you're lucky there might be some more Sappho pics :happy: :happy:
Will
PS I s'pose, whilst we have the camera out I could ask her to take some pics of me - but you wouldn't want naked Will pics, now would you?
However, she did send me a text the other day saying, "Why don't we get Sappho Jr to babysit one evening and go out to take some pics." :shock: :twisted: :twisted:
So, if you're lucky there might be some more Sappho pics :happy: :happy:
Will
PS I s'pose, whilst we have the camera out I could ask her to take some pics of me - but you wouldn't want naked Will pics, now would you?
Sex God
Quote by LostI beg your pardon? :shock:
Will look forward to that then
He's looking forward to gagmaster's sex tips I think is what he meant. I assume Lost, like most of us is in awe of his approach and wants some pointers
Spot on old son :thumbup: I can hardly contain myself In fact i've just unwrapped my first bar of Trex to nibble on as I wait in anticipation of reading Gaggy's tips.
Will, seriously what was it that you were so ahocked at
I read it as: "Will. Look forward to that then." :shock:
Sex God
Somehow I think the puff of air is not quite the same! I have have to have my eyes checked very regularly. The puff of air just makes you blink a little. I am told that cum in your eyes stings like hell.
Gagmaster - perhaps you need to experience the real thing so that you know what it really feels like.
BIoke - over to you!
Will :giggle:
Gagmaster - perhaps you need to experience the real thing so that you know what it really feels like.
BIoke - over to you!
Will :giggle:
Sex God
Quote by Cubes
Could it be this article Will?
NB: I used this search to find it. ;-)
That's the one!! :bounce:
Cubes, you're a star. Curious thing is that I put in search criteria very similar to yours (though not exactly the same) and the article didn't come up at all.
I owe you a pint or two, thank you!
Sex God
My strengths and weaknesses are scarily similar to Nola's.
My biggest weakness is that I am rubbish at saying 'No' to people and, as a result, tend to take on too much and end up putting myself under unnecessary pressure.
Strengths include a calm head in a crisis, fairness, honesty and integrity and a consideration for others.
Memory is both a strength and a weakness. I can remember huge amounts of detail about certain things and can often recite entire conversations word for word - but I can also be completely incapable of remembering what someone told me five minutes ago!
My biggest weakness is that I am rubbish at saying 'No' to people and, as a result, tend to take on too much and end up putting myself under unnecessary pressure.
Strengths include a calm head in a crisis, fairness, honesty and integrity and a consideration for others.
Memory is both a strength and a weakness. I can remember huge amounts of detail about certain things and can often recite entire conversations word for word - but I can also be completely incapable of remembering what someone told me five minutes ago!
Sex God
..The other day (within the last week), I was browsing some news articles and came across a link to an article about a guy (I think his name was Gerry) who grew up in Wimbledon and his parents were into swinging using the local babysitting circle as cover. He now lives in Paris, working as a furniture maker, and lives with both his partner (the mother of his children but with whom he no longer has a sexual relationship) and his lover. He and his lover go to swinging clubs and also meet up with other people privately, whlist his partner also has her own sexual relationships.
I wanted to find the article again to show it to Sappho and I have not been able to trace it anywhere.
I thought it was on the Daily Telegraph website, but I could be completely wrong. Did anyone else see the same article or could help me to trace it?
I would be extremely grateful if you could help me to find it.
Thanks in advance,
Will
I wanted to find the article again to show it to Sappho and I have not been able to trace it anywhere.
I thought it was on the Daily Telegraph website, but I could be completely wrong. Did anyone else see the same article or could help me to trace it?
I would be extremely grateful if you could help me to find it.
Thanks in advance,
Will
Sex God
Don't you find that sometimes sex on the spur of the moment can be far more erotic than a planned meet?
Sappho and I always discuss each other's planned meets and also the results :rascal:
However, yesterday, I happened to go upstairs for something and found Sappho getting dressed. Now, hot weather and a naked Sappho are a pretty dangerous combination. Before I knew what was happening she had dragged me into the en-suite (I didn't exactly struggle a great deal) and...well I won't go into details, but I think you get the idea.
Does anyone else agree that, although the build up to a planned meet can be a huge turn on, sometimes something spontaneous and unplanned can be hugely erotic?
Will
Sappho and I always discuss each other's planned meets and also the results :rascal:
However, yesterday, I happened to go upstairs for something and found Sappho getting dressed. Now, hot weather and a naked Sappho are a pretty dangerous combination. Before I knew what was happening she had dragged me into the en-suite (I didn't exactly struggle a great deal) and...well I won't go into details, but I think you get the idea.
Does anyone else agree that, although the build up to a planned meet can be a huge turn on, sometimes something spontaneous and unplanned can be hugely erotic?
Will
Sex God
Reading this thread has slightly changed how I am going to post. To be honest it was tweeky's posts that have changed my mind - and I actually have a lot of time for them both.
Before joining this site I was in a sexless marriage. Now, I know that tweeky says it is weak not to make a firm decision and leave - but it's not always that easy. I believed very much in the sanctity of marriage so I tried very hard to be celibate. Now, let's face it, one doesn't get married in order to be celibate. However, my then wife made it clear that, apart from ensuring that I didn't get sex at home, she would also do everything in her power to make sure that I didn't get it elsewhere and that, if I ever dared to leave her, I would never see my son again.
Faced with that I endured 12 and a half years of celibacy with just TWO transgressions. I don't mean two long-lasting affairs, I mean two one-off instances in 12 and a half years. Was I being a shit by being unfaithful? Of course I was, and I carry the guilt of that to this day. No doubt it is my own fault for lacking the moral fibre to be celibate - but, as I've said, I didn't marry in order to become celibate and I was never allowed to express an opinion on the matter.
Eventually, I could take it no longer and I left. My ex was as good as her word and I have never seen my son since. No doubt some of you will think that is a trivial thing. Believe me it is not. Not a day goes by without me thinking of him. The divorce was, of course, hugely expensive - but that pales into insignificance in comparison to the pain of losing my son. I paid maintenance and school fees for years afterwards but the court was powerless to force my ex-wife to allow me to see my son. That's the way it is.
As you all know, Sappho and I have a totally open relationship. However, there was an extended period when sex wasn't happening for us. I had Sappho's blessing to get some satisfaction elsewhere. However, I didn't. I have always seen swinging as an exciting enhancement to our sex life and not a substitution for the lack of it.
We prefer to play as a couple and with other couples - that way there is no danger of being involved in dishonesty. However, we DO play individually (and, yes, we are totally honest with each other about that) and it is possible that the people we play with are cheating. We would rather that is not the case, but we cannot guarantee that it isn't.
Brucie - it IS possible to have morals in swinging, but you cannot impose those morals on others.
Will
Before joining this site I was in a sexless marriage. Now, I know that tweeky says it is weak not to make a firm decision and leave - but it's not always that easy. I believed very much in the sanctity of marriage so I tried very hard to be celibate. Now, let's face it, one doesn't get married in order to be celibate. However, my then wife made it clear that, apart from ensuring that I didn't get sex at home, she would also do everything in her power to make sure that I didn't get it elsewhere and that, if I ever dared to leave her, I would never see my son again.
Faced with that I endured 12 and a half years of celibacy with just TWO transgressions. I don't mean two long-lasting affairs, I mean two one-off instances in 12 and a half years. Was I being a shit by being unfaithful? Of course I was, and I carry the guilt of that to this day. No doubt it is my own fault for lacking the moral fibre to be celibate - but, as I've said, I didn't marry in order to become celibate and I was never allowed to express an opinion on the matter.
Eventually, I could take it no longer and I left. My ex was as good as her word and I have never seen my son since. No doubt some of you will think that is a trivial thing. Believe me it is not. Not a day goes by without me thinking of him. The divorce was, of course, hugely expensive - but that pales into insignificance in comparison to the pain of losing my son. I paid maintenance and school fees for years afterwards but the court was powerless to force my ex-wife to allow me to see my son. That's the way it is.
As you all know, Sappho and I have a totally open relationship. However, there was an extended period when sex wasn't happening for us. I had Sappho's blessing to get some satisfaction elsewhere. However, I didn't. I have always seen swinging as an exciting enhancement to our sex life and not a substitution for the lack of it.
We prefer to play as a couple and with other couples - that way there is no danger of being involved in dishonesty. However, we DO play individually (and, yes, we are totally honest with each other about that) and it is possible that the people we play with are cheating. We would rather that is not the case, but we cannot guarantee that it isn't.
Brucie - it IS possible to have morals in swinging, but you cannot impose those morals on others.
Will
Sex God
Hi there,
Please add both Sappho and me to the list.
I realise that only puts us on the reserve list for now, but hopefully we can get on to the main list or, better still, you get to the magic 120.
We haven't been to a munch for ages and it would be nice to catch up with old friends - and make some new ones too!
Will
Please add both Sappho and me to the list.
I realise that only puts us on the reserve list for now, but hopefully we can get on to the main list or, better still, you get to the magic 120.
We haven't been to a munch for ages and it would be nice to catch up with old friends - and make some new ones too!
Will
Sex God
To get back on topic (I know, dull aren't I?), something only becomes a cliche (verbal, visual or otherwise) because it is widely used and that wouldn't happen if it hadn't struck a chord with large numbers of people - which means that people must relate to it.
From a bloke's perspective there is something about sexy secretaries and nurses. I don't do the schoolgirl thing as that wold feel too weird for me but, as I confessed to Sappho this morning, I definitely DO have a French maid fantasy. It may be tacky and unoriginal but there it is.
So you go ahead and lust after the neighbour's scaffolders. Why not?
All I can say is that, after reading some of the posts on here, I'm obviously in the wrong job :doh:
Will
From a bloke's perspective there is something about sexy secretaries and nurses. I don't do the schoolgirl thing as that wold feel too weird for me but, as I confessed to Sappho this morning, I definitely DO have a French maid fantasy. It may be tacky and unoriginal but there it is.
So you go ahead and lust after the neighbour's scaffolders. Why not?
All I can say is that, after reading some of the posts on here, I'm obviously in the wrong job :doh:
Will
Sex God
I know you asked for replies from female halves of couples and you keep getting replies from guys, but I think the problem can be seen from the title of your thread "How do I get my gf into swinging".
I really think that's the wrong way to look at it. Swinging is something you have to choose. "Getting her into it" sounds as if it is something that YOU want to do and you want to know how to entice/trick/persuade her to join in too. I don't think that's the right approach at all.
Try talking about the concept of swinging, very gently at first and in totally generic terms, and see how she reacts. If she really doesn't like the idea then I don't think you can force her (and I'm sure you wouldn't want to).
As others have said, this is a lifestyle choice and I think the key word there is choice.
Will
I really think that's the wrong way to look at it. Swinging is something you have to choose. "Getting her into it" sounds as if it is something that YOU want to do and you want to know how to entice/trick/persuade her to join in too. I don't think that's the right approach at all.
Try talking about the concept of swinging, very gently at first and in totally generic terms, and see how she reacts. If she really doesn't like the idea then I don't think you can force her (and I'm sure you wouldn't want to).
As others have said, this is a lifestyle choice and I think the key word there is choice.
Will
