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8 Mar 2004

Quote by bluexxx
However, that is not the issue.

It absolutely is the issue.....
In their eyes they may be female.
In the laws eyes they ARE male.
In some peoples minds that accept that there are transgender issues they are female.
In other peoples eyes - irrespective of what the individual feels - they are still seen as male.

1. is Miriam a woman? Yes she is. With respect to the people who say she isn't, she IS. We need not debate this.

In law he is a man - so you cannot make that statement as a statement of fact - it is an statement of emotion.
You may be close to the issue - but it does not mean that there is not more than one viewpoint!
Fred

8 Mar 2004

Quote by bluexxx
She is what she claims to be. In gaining access to the hormones she has obviously been taking so far, she will have had to convince one or more specialist doctors who know a lot more about what gender is than any layperson, that she is what she claims to be. Therefore, it is not just Miriam's opinion on her gender that counts, it has been clarified by experts in the field. Or are you guys saying you know better? :shock:

Sorry, but have to disagree with you there Bluexxx because in a British court of law if this person was to be convicted of a crime they would be convicted as a man and would have to serve out any sentence in a male prison - maybe in isolation - but still a mans prison.
Until such time as this country allows people to change their sex on a birth certificate then they will stay the sex they were born with!
That is not a personal view - just a statement of law!
Fred

8 Mar 2004

However, what they probably failed to tell you is that they are probably making the programme on spec and will then try and sell it once it is made. If it had been commissioned they would have shouted the name of the commissioning company. It could just be destined to join the dusty archive of programmes that never got transmitted!
If it was commissioned then they would have a clearly defined aims and objectives as well as the angle and storyline they are going to use - and will have to stick to it. Non commissioned and they will film everything - edit to make the most juicy programme and sensationalise everything and it will be so skewed that any integrity and truth will be lost!
Fred

8 Mar 2004

I can still use a slide rule and log tables to do complex maths problems, not as fast as I can use a calculator admittedly, but my kids were amazed when I showed them that a piece of plastic could do the same as a calculator. 8)
Isn't it strange though that there is more processing power in a arcade game than there was in the first rocket to land on the surface of the moon? :shock:
On a professional level I used to have to take a star sight and do 2 hours of complex calculations to work out the position of a ship in the middle of the ocean and the accuracy was 5 miles at best if i got a good cross. Now I can press a button and achieve <1m accuracy in <1 second!
However I still have my Nories Tables, my starsight book and a Sextant so if it all goes bang tomorrow and I am in the middle of the ocean I will still be able to navigate! 8)
What a sad git! rolleyes

rolleyes

Perhaps I ought to start a new thread - the most useless thing you have kept hold of JUST in case you need it! wink

wink

Fred

5 Mar 2004

burble burble burble!
Bloody Sun......
burble burble burble!
Stupid bloody woman diredread...
burble burble burble!
newbies causing trouble.........
AND another thing...
burble burble burble!
152 in chatroom.......
burble burble burble!
bloody stan colliemore......
burble burble burble!
what day is it............
Who am I and why is there a Nun sat on my lap? confused

confused

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Heeeelllllllllllllllpppppppppppppppp!

5 Mar 2004

Welcome Nat - if you are still around in a week and I know which way up I am I will give you a snog....(assuming you are the fem of the couple)
If I taste of shit then I am still confused and upside down.
*walks of with a high pitched cackle*
Fred
XXX

4 Mar 2004

Quote by Dawn_Mids
Just steveg_nw's :giggle:

Well you know where you can find it now don't you! wink

wink

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Fred

4 Mar 2004

I have deleted your posting novice 1 as you requested - thank you for remembering the rules.
Young male - you have a PM - read it please!
Fred

4 Mar 2004

I am going to respectfully request you both to delete your postings now.
They are offensive and personal
You wanna fight like this take it elsewhere please.
If I do it I will more than just delete your postings.
Regards
Fred

4 Mar 2004

Think you are on the wrong site.... confused

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Try or

4 Mar 2004

Quote by bluexxx
Steve, funnily enough my 19 year old didn't say ouch.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

So you gagged him as well? :shock: :shock: :shock:

4 Mar 2004

Quote by steveg_nw
I aint that fuckin expeimental!!!!!!!

forget the experi - just say mental! :shock: :shock: :shock:
Fred

4 Mar 2004

Quote by bluexxx
Now boys, are you here to swing, or shouldn't you be saving your pocket money to buy yourselves some hookers? Your choice.

It turns out they have between them, 2 sticks of gum, 16 assorted ciggies and 3 hankies their mums put in their pockets.
So here is the plan.....
They are going to have a masturbation group. They will buy 3 litres of cider from tescos, 6 durex from the machine in the toilets but as there are 7 of them they will toss the 2p piece they have left and the loser has to suck one of the other guys off and he gets both sticks of gum afterwards whilst the others smoke the fags and wash out their hankies!
Next week the guy who loses will promise to steal a tenner from his mums purse coz he is frightened of losing again!

rotflmao

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Fred

4 Mar 2004

I have just heard that there is a plan for a new reality show
"I am a celebrity Dogger - Get me to a Carpark" :doh:
They then have to get from a secret location to a Dogging site only known to all The Sun reporters where Deirdre Sanders is waiting to talk them out of their lifestyle. rolleyes

rolleyes

:roll:
The first one to Kill her wins.... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
The list of prospective celebs is being compiled as we speak. However I have had a quick preview and the following names are on there:
Stan Doggymore
Gillian Tailforth
Fergie
Hugh Grant
Are there any more for the list? wink

wink

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4 Mar 2004

The only depressing thing about it for me was that once again this afternoon and tonight we will be inundated with browsers, idiots, tossers, wasters, reporters and people with a mental age of 6 (that includes the reporters!) and the lady in the interview who sounded so uptight she is definately in need of a good shag after all the tension of an interview!
Bear with us folks - we will have a busy night in here and the chatroom again!
How bloody depressing!
What made me really laugh was she rang the police last year and they had not even heard about dogging........
I spat coffee everywhere!
FFS!

rotflmao

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Still no sign of my mate Deirdre?
Fred

4 Mar 2004

You also have to understand that in light of the recent influx of new people to the site, including reporters, that you will be viewed suspiciously until such time as people know you are not after a story.
As already said you will need to get to know people before you will be given information....
Fred

4 Mar 2004

Try saying it again in English and not TXT speak. Add a little punctuation, check the spelling and maybe you will have a better response!
Fred

4 Mar 2004

Yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaa! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

4 Mar 2004

Quote by Jags
OOOOOOOoooooohh... underhand!!!! Or below the belt??? One of the two!!
:lol: :lol:

BOTH!
He was definitely under your hand and you were definitely below his belt........
I have the photographic evidence as well! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Fred

4 Mar 2004

It is a good job you offered to cough and not ask the women to do it. confused

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If she has had kids and coughs 3 times with no knickers on you'll be slipping in puddles! lol

lol

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4 Mar 2004

Have you been on "Who wants to be a Millionaire" by any chance?
Fred

4 Mar 2004

Quote by WilmaFlintstone
Shhhh Heather .......don't tell them all!!

I think you will find she said "I'm Game" not "I'm on the Game" dear!

rotflmao

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3 Mar 2004

Silkies was murdered at the tender age of one year - who could be so mean??? But, not to worry, have a look at the Silkies tribute page for a while!

I did!

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Goddam The Sun and a pox on it's reporters mad

mad

:x :x
Fred

3 Mar 2004

Quote by NorthamptonMan
Just for the record, today, whilst I was carefully driving past the oblivious workmen through a 10mph posted industrial site, I had a BMW shoot past me at at least 40. Mind you, it would have been difficult for the driver to go slower as the tailgating Merc would have just shoved him along

That was me you bastard - and for the record I was towing him - well I was til the tow parted on the motorway at 120mph. lol

lol

Bloody English Tow ropes - heap of shite! wink

wink

Fred

3 Mar 2004

ooohhh bugga - with you in a min Jags!

3 Mar 2004

Well for me it is difficult... I'm always relaxed!
But something I so love at the moment is playing "Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy" (The original Radio Series) and sitting listening to it with the kids who love it to bits. Alternatively playing old recordings of Mike Harding to them. My son literally rolls around the floor laughing at the Blackpool sketch - particularly "Our Willie - Who was sick again, our mam said he had a weak stomach, our Willie said he was throwing it as far as anyone else!"
Fred

3 Mar 2004

It's a shame you were not helping the Mods and Ops police the site yesterday otherwise you would not have bothered apologising!
I know I have said nothing I want to apologise for!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mad

mad

:x :x
Anyone seen my mate Dierdre?
Fred

3 Mar 2004

Quote by NorthamptonMan
People who make broad, sweeping generalizations.

Couldn't agree more!

Quote by NorthamptonMan
People who believe that speed limits and behaving in a courteous manner to other road users is not applicable to them as they are driving a German car.

What the f**K is that then - surely not a broad sweeping generalization?

rotflmao

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Fred

3 Mar 2004

Will!
Will!
WILLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Run ya dozy bugga!

rotflmao

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3 Mar 2004

OYYYYYYYYY!
Now someone tell me where the FUCK is Dierdre and why she won't come in here and debate the real issues in this matter - that she enjoys the systematic destruction of individuals with relish whilst disguising it as counselling?
COME ON DIERDRE - Show your face you cowardly bitch!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:
Not nice when people pick on you is it?

rotflmao

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Someone give her a call and tell her Fred wants a word!
Oh - and Stan - kick her one from me if you see her!
Fred
(Elected to fuck all, awarded fuck all, professional counsellor and work shy lazy bastard!)