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Shambolic
Over 90 days ago
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The system I'd heard of is GPS based - The car (or rather, black box) logs co-ordinates of where it's been, and these are "databurst" to a collecting system as and when.
Certainly when you think all you'd need is a logging and radio uplinked GPS sat nav type system, that's both more efficient (in terms of true road pricing/ tracking/ accuracy) and more concerning (in terms of Big Brother) than a simple crude pinging method. Though the ping is very similar to how I believe the mobile phone network operates.
And to compare the amount of data in 20 million phone calls to 20 million sets of co-ordinates is a little disingenious of that expert I reckon. Aside from which, for all this "there's x million more cars now" doomsaying, how many are actually ever going to be on the road at any one time. I've got more than one car, and I've yet to work out how to use more than one at a time! smile
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Shark - You have to be doing over 33 in a 30 zone, but to be honest i don’t think those black boxes will do as much as is being said by the scaremongers out there, no technology could track 20 million vehicles at any one time and if it did it would cost the earth twice over.

Erm, if it can't track all the vehicles on the road at any given time, then just how will it know where you've been to be able to charge you?
And you think it won't cost twice the earth? This is the technology (backhander?) loving government who don't exactly have a track record of sensible low cost IT implementation...
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IE 7 still doesn't seem to be working corrrectly

My flabber is ghasted. No, really.
Seriously, get Firefox.
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And we have to pay for the equipment that will track our every move evil

Ignoring the hellish financial side for a moment, this is the really concerning part.
A tax on sitting in traffic burning fuel for nothing, or meandering around in a very thirsty 4x4, but that doesn't have Orwell smugly saying "I told you so" from beyond the grave? Stick it on petrol! Those who use more by driving in a manner (including traffic jams) or in a vehicle that consumes more pays more. There's no unexpected and possibly impossible to pay bill at the end of consumption, you pay before you actually consume. And there's no insidious logging of the people by the very people who are meant to represent not control them.
I do worry that the government spin machine has played this one quite well for all the outcry - There's more than a few people who seem to see congestion as something to be eradicated, and are willing to sacrifice civil liberties (maybe unwittingly) to achieve that. On a cost isse, I saw an interview last year on TV with a railway executive. He pointed out that the network was already at capacity in places, so if more people tried to cram onto already packed trains they'd put teh prices up to disuade them.
So let me get this straight. The government force people out of cars by making it too expensive. The public transport companies force people off their networks by making it too expensive.
So just how do people travel then? dunno
Quote by Geminifemale
Women love cats.
Men say they love cats.
Men kick cats when women arnt looking mad

True, but in fairness it's almost always the cat that starts it. Most likely to get the man into trouble so he gets kicked out meaning the cat is the sole center of attention again.
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I'm not terrified dunno
Nothing can be done to change it so why worry about it :dunno:
Time is better spent elsewhere..

Given how many people seem to need an organised depiction of a creator/ overseer to explain the various (usually negative) aspects of life and existence in general, I'd say if the lack of afterlife was proven without a shadow of a doubt there'd be chaos. Not anarchy, simply chaos. Some people can happliy believe this is all there is, and still find a meaning and purpose to living in the here and now, but I suspect a great many would simply fall apart when faced with unquestionable mortality.
Can you imagine how terrified (and I mean truly terrified, not just a little perturbed) people would be if they knew there was no form of afterlife, and that everything they were and had been would be snuffed out?
The thought that this living, thinking being sat expressing his opinion at a keyboard might just cease to be one day scares the hell out of me. And no amount of rational philosophising can change that. The thought that people I care about might just cease is very saddenning too.
I do have my own beliefs about what happens to the person (soul/ spirit/ mind, whatever you want to call that which makes you you) but they're quite muddy - I'm more agnositcally clinging onto the need for there to be something after the fleshy bits have packed in than holding a firm belief.
And aside from the concerns about just ceasing to be, how would society really be if people thought/ believed this was it? No judgement, no everlasting guilt, just there here and now. How does that effect consience? If I am just a bag of loosely coherent cells acting on chemical reactions I call instinct and thought, then what does it matter how I effect other bags of cells that are nothing more than chemical reactions that give an illusion of person? So is there a need for an afterlife to keep society together and functional?
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Yet over a year on, I actually find myself occasionally shaking my head, rolling my eyes and sarcastically thinking “god forbid anyone is actually meeting people and having sex”

I know I'm a mere lurker, but I totally agree with that snippet.
It's almost as though there's a clique - But in this case, of people who struggle to even show interest in having sex with themselves, and who use the forum to put on a pretence to lure unsuspecting newbies into being ridiculed, judged, baited and finally indoctrinated into the ways of the not meeting anyone for sex.
But then I like conspiracy theories...
As far as I know the V5 still says somewhere that it is not a proof of ownership - The registered keeper is not necessarily the owner, but in reality whoevers name is on the logbook is considered the owner by buyers, police etc.
However, if the person who bought the car kept the payment details, had the invoice or other paperwork in their name etc, then it should be proveable that they are in fact the owner. In other words she is entitled to the car under law but will need help from a solicitor to confirm that and be able to take possession.

It has a habit of talking to you in the middle of the night, but other than that it's quite light on resources (far better than any Norton post 2002) and seems to work better for me than AVG.
Of course, just because it's as good (if not better) than Norton doesn't mean Norton will let go of your system willingly. If you do change AV, it's best to run one of the Norton AV cleaners first as the damned thing leaves traces in every nook and cranny.
I'm not sure I'd go along with the place being rife with cliques, but it's certainly easy to think it is. It seems to me there's a core group who have a similar mindset and so are drawn to each other whilst seeming unapproachable by those who don't share that mindset. That core group make up most of the posts, probably as a result of the "outsiders" not knowing or maybe even wanting to fit in, thereby making the forum seem very cliquey indeed.
Now, that may mean that actually, yes, there is a clique, or it may simply be a fact that like minded people are going to become more established. I know from mainly lurking that there's less obvious seperate cliques now than a couple of years ago (which makes fitting into a comfortable one much harder) but as a perpetual outsider I definitely feel there is an unwritten code of conduct which has to be followed to be accepted - Ie there is very much a clique of sorts.
More importantly, does it matter if there's a clique? To me, yes and no. On the one hand feeling more comfortable interacting in the forums might (on a wannashag level) help in meeting and undressing people, as well as generally being pleasant simply to have a laugh. But on the other hand, not fitting right in might make any friendships/ meetings that do arise from the forum more meaningful as to not be part of the clique suggest at least common not shared mindsets, if that makes sense?
Having said all that, if there is a screwed up sleep pattern insomniac perv clique looking for new recruits, point me in the right direction!
The blue is just samey and really quite dull to me - Looks like every standard Invision forum (even though this appears to be a phpbb) IMO.
But aside from that, the forum just looks wrong to me. Too narrow with too much going on either side. And the white spaces between post boxes doesn't help, makes it look broken up and half finished. I think the blue might be tolerable (if boring) if the white spaces were removed and the whole thing was just wider - Maybe have a little bit of code that allows users to hide and unhide the left and right blocks to allow the content (you know, the important stuff...) to stretch across more of the screen, and look less cramped.
I also have the moving text on the button problem - Are the buttons CSS by any chance? And if so, why? A normal gif works just fine...
And as a full time gutless lurker, I like to be able to search for ads in the local area to then not reply to, not have a page full of ads from all dates and locations no matter what I do!
It could be worse, it could be lime green and red on black with no Firefox functionality, but I have a feeling it could have been better by just being left alone. Maybe it's a bit of the Vista thing: "We must update, new but knackered is good, old but working is bad" ;)
Ick. Ickity ick. Icky ick ick ick.
Blue. How stunningly not like every other forum on the face of the planet (apart from those that use the standard blue grey phpbb skin). I know it must be a winning formula if so many people use it, but this place had an element of individuality, now it's just blue.
The rounded boxes and blueness seem to make the forum content much narrower - I think it's just an optical illusion, but it does seem more claustrophobic to me.
The lack of borders and main forum table extending into the footer just looks weak and half finished. No real definition between content area and background, at least not on my screen. I don't generally like borders, but either a change of colour between table and background, or a border, should be implemented IMO.
The text, especially quoted, looks naff and small.
The page looks, basically, "busy". Too much going on in bold small text distracting the eye. The home and add menu pages are even worse, information overload. They always did have a bit too much going on, but now they've got too much going on in too distracting a way too sad
Searching by distance just wears out my mouse without actually doing anything of use that I can see - Could do with being fixed as surely the ads are quite fundamental and that's an actual fault rather than an aesthetic issue smile
I think if the left and right columns could be hidden so the main table (forum and profiles) could go full width a lot of my issues would be resolved - I'm not interested in a cluttered menu left and right when I'm trying to read a post or perv over a profile.
There are touches I like, some of the graphics are much better, and the smooth/ rounded boxes are more pleasant (if very blue) compared to the blocky versions, but I have to say overall I'm not a fan. Not that I can design a website to save my life, I just know what I like :)
I go with what others have said about "why?".
What do people expect Vista to really do that XP doesn't already? No matter how much MS want to add bloat (usually nicked from third party companies they buy up and dismantle) and eye candy, the truth is the most important part you want from MS is the operating system. Everything on top is applications/ software, and everything from a basic text editor to a fully featured media suite can be found elsewhere, often for legitimately free. XP as an OS is stable and not too resource hungry, Vista is unlikely to prove more stable for the average user, and will eat more power. It's a bit of a con really - You need to keep buying ever more powerful hardware to run ever more bloated software, just to do the same job at the same speed as your old hardware and software. And the spectre of drm needs to be seriously considered - Certainly I don't want any form of "rights management" on my computer.
Basically, you really don't need the latest in everything unless it offers something you simply cannot currently do but need to. But the manufacturers need you to believe you do need the latest and greatest to do anything, otherwise they'd go bust. Save your time money and sanity, and stick with a tried and tested product that works smile
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to me it seems a bit narrow minded and shallow ?

I agree overall, but I think if they were shallow they'd be requesting the exact opposite, surely?
First, I want to say that I'm very good at being nervous and not getting to the point. And not only did I want to say that, but I now have. So that's all good then.
Secondly, I've been a member for quite a while now, but other than some avoiding the whole sex thing posts on the general board once in a mauve moon, and perving over the cams, I really haven't done much to make use of this site. So I'm fairly oblivious to how to write a successful ad. In fact, consider this more or a plea for editing and constructive criticism than an ad, because I suspect it will greatly need it!
And without futher ado, the advert. In a probably very loose definition of the word advert.
I'm 30, single, male, straight and not entirely sure what I'm looking for. There, that's a great start isn't it? I know that as I'm really still unsure about taking my socks off, let alone dipping my toes in, I'd rather not be involved with a couple or attached female. So I guess that narrows it down to I'm looking for single women. I don't currently accom and am not a fan of hotels, but I'm happy to travel up to 45 minutes or so (possibly more depending). I also don't have a mobile - Best to get that out the way now, as I was accused of being married because I didn't have a brain frying need to always be contactable wherever I am.
One offs are fine, in fact more than fine at times, but if the chemistry is there then multiple offs and maybe even an element of conversation and friendship wouldn't go amiss. I'm not looking for a relationship, and nor would I appreciate finding myself sneakily placed in one. So a fuck buddy or two (or more if I have the stamina and immense good fortune) is probably my ideal situation. Oh, it should go without saying, but after a recent experience (elsewhere) I feel the need to say it - I'm not interested in drawn out msn, phone or email contact, especially not if it's then revealed that there never was any intention to meet from the very outset.
Right, so that's sort of what I might want and not want, I suppose I ought to now amaze with my physical details. Imagine Hercules and Adonis had a Twins (the movie) style mating (could be an interesting Hollywood prequel). I'd be the Danny Devito. OK, that's not entirely true, I have much more hair and I'm a fair bit taller, but I would consider myself average. Not bad looking apparently, but I'm not entirely sure whether "Oh, you're lovely and soft" was a compliment or not last time someone hugged me! Though by the time I've finished typing this Ill probably have also finished the diet, and have the body of an Olympian sex god. Or that could be me thinking of the prequel idea again.
So, if there's any single women in the area who have managed to read all that and think I might be worth a try, can I suggest you contact me before your next therepy session?
Well, I still lurk and pop in once in a while to see what's going on in the forums but post once every sixth or seventh blue moon, same as ever.
And I still haven't quite sorted out how to word an ad and actually use this site for what most of it is designed for either, but I am actually thinking about it at (very) long last..
Could the Free registration drop down thing be a result of using a pre-packed software? I'm not up to speed on what's been happening around here the last few months, but when I noticed the free/ paid bit in the box my first thought was "lazy sods, not sorting the software out properly".
As for the postcode, I'm still struggling to see why it's quite such a big deal. Let's say someone from my first half postcode had an ad up. Looking at most ads, unless Tescos started doing a topless night and I happened to be there the same time as the advertiser, I think it'd be a struggle to recognise them! I do agree it should be optional, but as the point of ads is surely to meet people, isn't it in the least bit handy to have a clue roughly (as in you can use a p/c one or two away from you if you're that concerned) what part of the globe they tend to be? smile Maybe a distance thing instead would be better, but I've seen someone argue against that as well...
I do think the whole thing should maybe have been tested properly before going live though.
One of my fleeting visits to the boards... I think I must be one of the very few who actually quite likes the change, at least in theory.
Not happy about the personal data issues, the colourscheme will take quite a bit of getting used to (ie could be better), and it seems very slow at the moment, but as a very casual user (check the ads to see just who doesn't live anywhere near me most days, pop into the boards once every few months at most) I have to say there seems to be a slight improvement in functionality that might not be a bad thing smile
I thought the postcode thing only showed the first bit, which at most will narrow you down to a particualr town or suburb. Maybe still too much info (and I'm waiting to see if I get a plethora of available horny young women, or an attack from a net psycho first), but not to the point where anyone looking will know your shoe size and breakfast preference :)
One thing I have noticed, and quite how welcome it'll be (and it might be postcode related, I don't know), is I seem to be able to search for specific ages, genders, and activities. Which for me, as a naturally quite shy person, means I might be able to actually find the balls to contact someone for the first time since finding the site, as I'll have a better idea of whether or not there's a chance of compatibility. This might have been around for a while and I never noticed it, but I definately think of all the possible downsides to the revamp, this is a definite plus.
Can you tell I had two large glasses of plonk writing the above? If so, I apologise! confused
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this is so bad makes you scared to go any where

I'll no doubt be flamed to buggery for saying this, but...
If that's how people feel, then the terrorists have won.
What is wrong with shite posts? I have limited interests (the ones I have, I am passionate about), so I usually pop into the cafe once every few days, have a cursory glance at the more promising threads, and 99% of the time go away again. This isn't because the threads aren't interesting, it's because they aren't interesting to me.
A thread only becomes a thread when people reply, until then it's just a post. So if people are replying, on the topic of the original post, they're interested. Which means it can't be shite to them, even if it's shite to someone else (and this thread is shite to some, I'm sure).
If the long term posters want to close their little corner of the net off to anyone who doesn't fit their particular brand of clique, then fair enough, this is theirs to do with as they wish after all. Part of the reason I've become less interested is the hand of the mods seemed to be getting heavier, and the "search button is your friend" comment thrown about far too often for my liking (so something's been discussed months or years ago. Does that mean people cannot change their minds, and newbies can't have their say?). This thread just seems to be a natural progression from that attitude.
As I said, the admin and mods of this board can do with it what they want, but I'd like to hope they'd be accepting that not everyone thinks like them, and some actually like to talk about how many waffles they had, or would like a bit of support cause their goldfish is ill.
Long live the shite, if you don't like the thread just move on, how hard can that be?
/ rant
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I also think that if they had a look and increased the major road speed limits (certainly not slow compared to other countries and with the type of roads we have), people would still speed and it would just raise the overall speeds. I don't think it would make a lot of difference to the number of accidents, but it would make them a little more serious. It's like air travel - very very safe (much more so than any road anywhere, especially per mile), but cos you're miles up and travelling so fast, collisions/crashes are so much more fatal.

Not true IMO. People that currently speed are driving at a pace they consider safe for the conditions and car. Should that speed fall within the limit, I doubt they'd go out of their way to go ever faster. There's always going to be some idiots who do it for the hell of it, but that's the case whatever the limit. There's a percentile rule that states x% (85, IIRC) will drive at a safe speed on any stretch of road, and limits should be set to that level. Makes sense to me, after all, if 85% are breaking the limit then that either means an extremely high accident rate, or the current obsession with speed killing is rubbish. Of course it can also mean a lowering of limits on certain roads, but I have no problem with that either, so long as everything is done fairly (not bloody likely when politicians get involved).
Yep, but you still get a few old cars on the roads that shouldn't be doing more than 60-70 - do we have a separate limit for them? Separate lanes of the motorway? Not allow them on main roads? A minefield of arguments... It's down to the driver to act responsibly and appropriately for the conditions.

The driver acting responsibly is exactly the key, And I genuinely believe a lot of drivers do, those that don't are not just going too fast, they may be going very slowly, or driving half asleep, etc. Drivers of rare or classic (or any enthusiast in general) cars tend to understand their cars better than most, and drive within the cars limits as well as their own. Once again, you're always going to get idiots, but no more than there currently are.
I agree they need a discussion in the public eye, but I think 30mph is fast enough for built up areas. The more annoying issue is making sure limits are signed well enough, and that they're sensible for the type of road. Way too many roads with stupid (too low or too high) limits - although it's worse with too-low than too-high it must be said, from personal experience. I've still been down a road and thought the limit was too fast for it, and that some people trying to make use of that limit even in good conditions might be overdoing it a little.

Depending on the area, time, and road type and layout, 30 can be far too fast even. But because it's the limit, people try and stick to it. This is the problem with speed limits though, they restrict speeds on roads where those that can can't, but they give those that can't the impression they should. If you see what I mean (it's late).
Mmm... Don't see anyone there complaining on the extra money on the books from the cameras. They're supposed to spend it on related things like improving road safety.. Dunno if they have though.
Ok, do excuse me, I can go on sometimes... smile

The trouble with cameras in particualr, and speeding fines in general is they are a fantastic source of revenue. You've got the camera partnerships creating jobs and wealth, the police meeting figures and recieving bonuses, and the courts and government taking a fair amount in. Plus of course points mean higher insurance, which just so happens to be taxed and a nice money spinner for the government too. It's win win, the public are convinced speeders are the root of all evil, so politicians are looked upon favourably, the insurance companies get an excuse to make more money, some of which is skimmed off, the camera partnerships continue to pay the top executives, and the police can finally meet performance targets. So long as the limits are never properly set, and cameras are never placed where they might catch the reletively few loonies instead of the reletively many safe but nippy drivers, everyone is happy other than the motorist. But as the motorist was responsible for every environmental and social disaster since the extintion of the dinosaurs, that's alright.
Seeing as the moral majority have decided to inflame this thread, here's my take.
I have done 135, 143, 128, 101, 98, all indicated (so probably 10 - 15mph less in most instances). I am either a patchwork Frankenstien creation, or I managed not to crash on any of those occassions. 143 was done in a large executive car perfectly balanced and braked to maintain those sorts of speeds if conditions allowed. In fact, 70 in some of the cars I've owned has been far closer to the danger point of their chassis than 143 in that car!
There is no reason why 70mph is automatically safer than 150mph, weather, visibility, amount of traffic, nature of the road, car design, car condition, driver condition all come into play. It is far safer to do 103 in a "fast" car on a clear dry wide straight empty road with no junctions or other hazards, than it is to do 50mph on a wet motorway in rush hour in a Herald or Imp. In fact, in all my driving experience, doing anything over 45mph in one of my 60s cars was a far more frightening experience than any of the times I approached or went over three figures on dry straight wide empty roads (see the figures above). Speed limits are an arbitrary figure based on out of date average car capability and very out of date road layouts and so on.
I am not for one moment advocating dangerous use of speed, I'm just sick of people automatically hurling abuse at the "evil" speeders without taking any other circumstance than a number on a dial into account.
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Just realised what Britain is great for Racism. We could win a gold medal at that. Just can't believe the comments about the french on here recently. banghead

It's quite difficult to be racist about the French.
However, it's more than possible, and even can be mildly amusing, to be xenophobic about them instead.
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Just a few words, following the predictable US bashing, it is worth remembering the following –
Without the US, we would be under Nazi rule.

No we wouldn't. Before we stepped in, Hitler had no intention of invading the UK. A great deal of the structure he put into place in Nazi Germany was based on his view of a British ideal. He sent over ambassadors in an attempt to win Britains neutrality and even support for the Nazi policies in the 30s. Even after the start of the war he never had any concrete plans to invade, he just wanted us to keep out of what he was doing. But if the people of this country had been told any of this at the time, then the huge national support and moral required to fight the war we found ourselves in would have crumbled.
Point 2, the US made themselves very rich as we made ourselves very poor fighting the war. The American people never wanted to get involved in the fighting, but were more than happy to sell us weapons and supplies, creating a huge debt on our side. That the US finally got involved was due to much backroom politicking, and by that point the war was already turning for Hitler, as he made the Napolean mistake of taking on Russia, a decision that cost the Germans and the Russians millions of lives. The German war machine was weakend by both the Russian winter and the determination and sheer numbers of Russians fighting them off.
Without the US after the 2nd World War we would have been part of the Soviet Bloc.

Other than a blind faith in the cold war propoganda we were fed, what evidence do you have to back that up? Eastern Europe was swallowed by the communists due to massive strategic mistakes on the part of the allies, predominantly the US (so it can be argued that in fact the countries who did fall prey to the Soviet Bloc did so because
Without the US, the west wouldn’t have had a secure oil supply from the Middle East. Yes it was partly about oil.

Go back not all that far, and a great deal of the middle east were on our side, to an extent even united because of promises to help their desire for sovereinty in return for help against the Ottoman empire. These promises were broken, leading them to distrust us immensly. Nontheless, we had great sway over teh area for some time to come, but caused ever more friction. Even so, nothing was stopping free trade, but we don't want free trade if it means higher prices. And by this time we were very much in bed with the US, a double edged sword when it comes to global dealings.
Yes, in an ideal world we would deal with China and North Korea, but we can’t because they have nuclear weapons. Yes we should deal with Zimbabwe, but they are not threatening their neighbours or sponsoring terrorism elsewhere, as far as I am aware, so we haven’t.

We should either set ourselves up as moral guardians of the world and step in wherever injustice happens (no matter what skin, faith or natural reserves the "oppressed" have") and face the consequences, or keep out of matters which don't affect us. Or at teh very least be honest when we go and beat another country up and kill thousands of innocents as "collaterl damage" and say it's because they're smaller than we are, and have some sweeties we want.
Might be nice if we sorted out some of the mess we historically created though, which does include the Israel/ Palestine conflict, other areas in the middle east, and a few areas of Africa.
Pick away………………..

Just have wink
If you two must fight, can you do it in a paddling pool full of strawberry jelly, wearing nothing but red leather skimpy underwear please?
And maybe video the event for anyone who can't witness it live.
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Ahh, didn't see that it won't even get into Windows now.
That's a little odd for a virus!

Whats odd shambolic?
Minx xx
Just that I've not come across any XP virus that prevents the PC getting into Windows. Plenty that stop it working properly, or restart it, but none that stop it fully loading, or stop it getting into safe mode.
Still, there's no harm in doing a full reinstall once every so often... So long as the data's backed up... cool