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VenusnMars
Over 90 days ago
Straight Female, 54
Straight Female, 83

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People who lower toilet seats are assassins.
Think entertaining company
Think busting for a pee
Take that thought off to the bathroom, a bathroom in which the lightbulb has blown...........
Think sitting down and `letting go`...........
And follow this up with `how the hell am I going to get to my wardrobe without anyone noticing.................`
Nuff said :shock: redface
Venusxxx
Stubbing my toe............I`ll pass on that thankyou!
Meaningful conversation? I used up all my profound last night! lol
Solo? Sick child at home, it might disturb her :shock:
I`m open to being `disturbed` though :twisted:
Venusxxx
This coffee isn`t kicking in quickly enough................
Any ideas?! biggrin
Venusxxx
Erm, seeing as this is coming from someone who had a moral crisis when choosing the next PM victim................

ARE YOU MENTAL?!!!
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :P surprised
Venusxxx
Ok I read the entire thread (Just like me to go arse about face!) and I shall recify a couple of statements. Tigris has only made four posts, this is not enough for me to accuse him/her of ignorance in my opinion. My reply was in response to some of the strong reactions from others here (which is fine, we all feel very strongly about this, which is as it should be) I made an assumption; but in hindsight Tigris had apologised for coming across in a less than friendly way, and has communicated a desire to understand the lifestyle. I for one would be interested in hearing more from Tigris given the well thought out answers to his/her misgivings about this lifestyle.
I`d also like to answer the query about if, say, Mars decided he wasn`t comfortable with swinging. I would of course stop for it is his feeling which is paramount to me, but at the same time I would also have to explore with him what I would see as a step backward in our relationship. Mars allows me to swing because he recognises and understands my libido enough too want me to experiance it`s aspects fully, and I wish the same for him, we both wish to be a part of each others experiances. If he were to start feeling threatened or uncomfortable with this in anyway, I would have to question why, as my libido would remain the same, and I would worry that we had lost something if he didn`t want to offer me this gift. We could explore this without it becoming a pressure. In fact exploring the hidden or new aspects of our characters which crop up now and again, together, as a couple is one of those things which only serve to enrich our marraige further. If the issue couldn`t be resolved in the favour of swinging, then no matter, for as I said earlier, there is much more to our relationship than what we decide to get up to sexually.
Damn I`m feeling profound tonight :shock:
So, who wants a shag?! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
I shall admit I haven`t read the entire thread, but I`ve feel I`ve gleaned enough to warrant the following response. Feel free to correct me if I have missed the point.
Elsewhere on this forum I made the following statement
Quote by VenusnMars
For us (and call us soppy) it has a great deal to do with the gesture of emotional trust we have in each other. We want to swing because we are in love, not in spite of it. Our sexual preferences are such that we love each other enough not to expect each other to make sacrifices. It is our gift to each other, and no matter what we share with others physically, it is this trust and gift of sexual freedom that is sacred to us only.
Venusxxx

I`ll follow this up by saying that for us love involves mind, body, and soul. A marriage judged on physical behaviour only is to me a marriage half experianced. One day we may find our libido gone, tommorrow (god forbid) an illness or accident may render one of us incapable of sexual relations, but I am secure in the knowledge that we have the depth and understanding of each other to surpass this. This understanding includes the recognition that we both find other people sexually attractive, and being the couple we are, it`s our love for each other which encourages us to share this aspect also with each other. This realisation emphasises our love, it doesn`t sully it, we wish each other to experiance all parts of our lives as fully as possible, how could I wish less for the man I love? It is also this which dictates for the moment that we only share this with people we have come to know and love as valuable friends, for it`s an intense gift we share.
Others here may wonder why I am taking the time to respond to the member who seems to be behaving like a troll towards our chosen lifestyle, and if I had to be honest I`d have to say it`s because I pity them. Although I have the utmost respect for those who decide on educated merits that this lifestyle is not for them, I feel that someone who suffers such ignorance is denying themselves a rather beautiful philosophy. It`s not a philosophy that everyone shares, but it is ours, and therefore valid.
I can only suggest that Tigris takes a look at the following thread from a member whose questioning took a much different approach, and as a result received a much more rewarding response.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/20086.html
Please, try education before condemnation. Your life will be much richer for it.
Venusxxx
Quote by zootle
Venus... there is no way you are old enough to have a 16 yr old!!!! Now please stop lying to us all, its just not fair! lol

Looking at Venuses avatar I was thinking the same thing.
Aww, chuffed to bits with that! Both girls tower over me, and yes it can get confusing when I`m out with my eldest! I was told gratuitously (sp?) that I look like a 24 year old at the Notts munch (younger yes, but not that young), and I was chuffed to bits about that too. So I shall drop all dignified attempts at remaining humble and glorify in the flattery here! biggrin
Where else if not SH should I reap the confidence?! lol
I have to say though, Alexander is the one who looks like she bathes in the blood of virgins....honestly!
Venusxxx
Quote by Calista
I know my place

Yeah I know mine too .... bleedin kids have trashed it again though mad
And to Ms Venus"housing associations are better than council houses"Nmars .... :moon: flipa :rude:
LOLOLOLOL
Never mind Calista, I too used to be council, then it all changed and I became really clever llike. You too could be like me! Until then, I will forgive you that slur, for you know not what you say............:mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Quote by zootle
While a nice fresh (legal) 16 year old girl is certainly tempting, since getting my laptop back in March it's rapidly become my main PC at home. So I don't think I could really part with it. smile

OI!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: surprised
I`m it`s mother, THAT will never be legal FFS! evil
Should have seen that one coming......... :doh:
Venusxxx
Quote by teppic
neilinleeds, i've heard a lot about you, all good may i add, look forward to chatting sometime..

Well......ahem...erm......I do keep trying to stop Mars from going on about him....um, I think between you and me, I think he might fancy him :shock:
/Venus turns round to see if her arse is covered enough with that......... redface
Venusxxx
Female, the only boy is the 9 year old.
Best hurry up on the Mother-in-law deal, I`m off to do her with her shopping in a mo, I may have to wheel her into town and leave her there with a sign around her neck :twisted:
I expect to see loads of offers by the time I get back!
Catch you later
Venusxxx
FOR SALE
One teen (16), slightly intelligent, not intelligent enough to get own arse up in the morning for college, raw material, has potential. Will swap for laptop.
0ne teen, (13) highly volitile, will spot ALL things which are `sooooooo unfair` from a distance of 1000 ft, possibly before it happens. Will swap for flat screen monitor, or a 256 meg memory card.
One squinny, (9) will swap for working copy of The Sims.
One mother-in-law...........free to a good home.
Venusxxx
Quote by Vix
Let`s BURN HIM! evil wink :bounce:
Venusxxx

Brill! I'll get me bodhran and fetch Reeses djembe and waterphone.... someone cobble together a bender. I'll see if there's a chance of some herbal entertainment, and let's climb the Tor! We've only just missed Sowain by a week... we can make our peace, for that.
rotflmao
I didn`t get the half of that equipment.........but it sounds fun! :mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Neil! You can pack that in right now! I distinctly counted four syllables in one of those words (cos I can do four). Getting ideas above our station are we?! Don`t make me come up there and put you back in your box!
*taps foot*
Venusxxx
Looks like you`ll all have to endure us sticking around from here on in. Teppic very kindly drove down to our house and sorted out the PC! I`m currently sat here downloading the remaining drivers I need, confident that the PC will not die anytime soon :mrgreen:
Downloading on dialup confused ..........
Didn`t get me broadband did he?! In fact, when I start pissing you all off with my inane bollocks, we all know who to thank don`t we?! No dial-up, increased bollocks.......
Let`s BURN HIM! evil wink :bounce:
Venusxxx
Quote by Vix
I just read the thread.......and I`m sorry, I don`t get it.
However, I did get it better than Neil, cos he`s council, whereas I`m Housing Association. :mrgreen:
Not to worry Neil, I explain what I did understand to you via PM later, as I can go up to four syllables as opposed to your three, after that I`m fucked, cos I run out of fingers. sad
Venusxxx

Run outta fingers? I could give you two or three. rolleyes
As long as you don`t try to add the two or three otherwise I`ll have to cope with really BIG numbers like...........er....nope, can`t do it, my brain hurts! blink
(Psst, council tenants, don`t quote me on it, but really BIG numbers are anything over 5 I think surprised )
Venusxxx
I just read the thread.......and I`m sorry, I don`t get it.
However, I did get it better than Neil, cos he`s council, whereas I`m Housing Association. :mrgreen:
Not to worry Neil, I explain what I did understand to you via PM later, as I can go up to four syllables as opposed to your three, after that I`m fucked, cos I run out of fingers. sad
Venusxxx
I did all mine........all except PiercedJon :twisted:
You can run, but you can`t hide...............:mrgreen:
Venusxxx
Well, I did him a disservice, he does have a certificate in health and safety (not the big one), and a computing certificate, I`ve just been spending too much time online looking at the minimum GCSE requirements etc! He can fill a CV better than I, yet my couple of qualifications open more doors for me in the line of Diplomas etc. Building would be good, and your PM was food for thought Busty, cheers smile
Night school is an option, but he will be needing to leave his job before he completes a course which is why I was thinking a job which offers training.........if only he were 16 again!
Venusxxx
Quote by well_busty_babe
if mars decided he wanted to get some qualifications how about he did some night school classes, basic things like maths and english.
they wouls surely be a big bonus when applying for other jobs once he had them.

Last time he tried a maths class, he sat next to me copying my work! rotflmao
BTW, Good to see you back Mal biggrin
Venusxxx
Oh I can type up a CV for him, he has oodles of experiance in crap jobs........at this point I think he`s so ground down he doesn`t know what he wants to do! A job which offers more than 10k a year, proper sick pay and more than 4 chosen days a year holiday would be nice for a start!
Venusxxx
Mars` needs to change his job, before it kills him. I need a job before he kills me!
I`m looking at taking a nursing diploma as it`s a supportive route towards what I want to do which has some monetary benefits, Mars needs something similar (a secure government job maybe?), he`s sick of working in jobs noone else wants because he has no qualifications. I`d have him stay at home with the kids because he`s better at it than me, but my income won`t allow for that, but I don`t want to see him end up in a dead end full/partime job. Neither can we afford for him to take the time out of work to get an education. At this point completely new ideas would be welcome, we need to turn things around.
Anyone have any ideas of career opportunities which offer training and pay, similar to the route I`m taking? He has no exam passes, he`s a blank slate!
Yup, guess who`s sick to death of researching this in 16 colour res?
Venusxxx
Alternatively you could try sticking something in Clare`s mouth :twisted:
Venusxxx
Us? There`s more than one of you?

I always did have my suspicians.........blink
Venusxxx
Quote by teppic
no, half will do, otherwise i will be up all night rotflmao rotflmao rotflmao

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :grin:
ooooooooo, he don`t know me very well do he?! :small-print:
Venusxxx
Does that mean we have to buy you a pint of coke instead of a half now?! surprised wink
Congrats!
Venusxxx
Don`t worry Neil, I have a slipper with Sarge`s name on it. It`s a big bugger too :twisted:
I have ways of dealing with these upstarts.
Venusxxx
Ack Steve, from someone who is married to a guy who not only doesn`t post a great deal, but also has to attend 4 munches, spend a couple of weekends with friends, and meet up with regulars at the SMB before he relaxes with people well enough for them to get an idea of the person...............I`d say you really don`t have a great deal to worry about. Some things take a little longer with some than they do others, eventually most of us get there in the end!
Venusxxx
Old pair pf slippers?! SLIPPERS?!
I`ll give you the slipper Sarge :twisted:
Ok, why am I here? (rhetorical question Sarge, don`t even THINK about it!)
I am here because I can`t cope with not eating brekkie at the PC, so I sat here vainly going through the motions of reinstalling windows, knowing it wouldn`t work.......cept it did! WTF is that all about?! I did nothing different, one of my HDs just decided to work. I`m back on 16 colours and no sound, and am convinced the PC needs trauma counselling, and was simply having a bad mental break the other day.
Thankfully, Teppic will be meeting up with us tonight smile , and giving us some hardware which doesn`t need mental health counselling, until then I am NOT doing anything else to this machine.
It`s good to be back biggrin
Venusxxx