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has the bell tolled for the swine flu hoax yet ?

dunno, mite a bin right ?
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shoe bomber....underpants bomber.....yemini bra bomber ? what do you all think ?

musta bin wrong ere
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i wonder what the next big staged event wil be to justify the attack on iran ? your thoughts please ? i think its close judging by the rhetoric

i was wrong then !
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who can cut the dept best ? a previous thread said that each of us owes 25k to the public dept ! i say no. the government without our consent, comitted billions of our future tax revenue to fill present black holes in bank balance sheets.
these banksters then proceeded to pay themselves bonuses measured in lifetime earnings of the rest of us. this future revenue will not now be spent on hospitals,education, training, welfare or socially required infrastructure.
so the arguments about the effectiveness or efficiency of public expenditure will come into play in the theatre of political screenplay and who can make the cuts most humanely ! we are being fried by international private financial interests who created an unsustainable dept/interst fuelled ponzi scheme and all our politicians (on the gravy train) capitulated.
i say, repudiate the dept and make the gamblers and sharks go bankrupt ! f$£k em all.
what do you all think ?

i musta bin wrong back then too
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i think that with the expose of the m.p.s with their noses in the trough, on the gravy train (as they always have been), the banking bankrupcy save our childrens future taxes and indeptedness to them and every aspect of society controlled by unelected unanswerable quango's and fighting war's very few of us agree with, we need to bring these charletans and theives to buck ! i think that instead of, as a bbc correspondent descibed it recently, "an unwritten constantly evolving constitution we have in this country" ! ? ? ? we need a written constitution and bill of rights that we can refere to and demand all other's adhere to ! what do you all think ?

i musta bin wrong back then
the miners strike for jobs, pits, communities and the mining industry, had very little to do with the profitability of individual pits and seams and everything to do with monetarism and de-regulation. the term "thatcherism" is a misnamer as "reganism" is in the u.s. it still exists today under tory bliar/gordy and the camaron/clegg coalition.
the city of london calls the shots and decides policy for the muppets at westminster regarless of who is selected. arthur scargill was and is a naive trades unionist. he DID NOT call the miners out on strike, he was for a ballot but the yorkshire miners were already on strike and surrounded the n.u.m. headquarters in barnsley where the executive were meeting who by a majority vote "endorsed" the action of the striking yorkshire miners and the other autonomous regions followed suite.
the conservative government had planned the strike as they had the printers and railwaymen before them. the purpose was to destroy the organised working class as a precondition to rolling back all the social gains made in the preceding hundred years of organised labour. this was necessary to privatise for profit all state owned infrastructure for their now de-regulated financial controllers in the city.
when thatchers ego "the lady's not for turning" got the better of her when hundreds of thousands demonstrated on the streets of london against the poll tax and the police could not contain the situation, thatcher was for calling in the troops to implement the governments will.
this is when a power greater than those selected stepped in, "the men in grey coats" and she was dispensed with and another "stoolie" was selected. what happened to thatcherism ? individual personalised nonesense. its MONETARISM and its still here. thats why you get bonuses for "the too big to fails" and "austerity" for the too small to save.
this deregulation (no laws) which drove a 20 year credit boom has now collapsed and "all" the industries that were destroyed in favour of finance capital were a product of the primacy of "MONETARISM" which will now be our undertaker.
what i find facinating in these threads is the lack of understanding of peoples class interests regardless of what they are programmed/made to think. by the way, i am a political aetheist.
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Now I know this is in the Daily Wail, but on a serious note this cannot be about to happen.............can it?
A massive ammount of Americans would be opposed to this, certainly so close to ground zero, where Muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people.
IF this did go ahead and I for one think it will not, but if it did....has Obama lost the plot, or is he doing what he believes is right, or is he trying to appease the Muslims throughout the world?
How would the world see America? Would they see it as weak or coming to terms with their loss?
I for one think it would be very insensitive to have a Mosque so close to what has become a symbol of Americas past....a worse atrocity than Pearl Harbour,and will always be remembered as the day America stood still, as did the world on that horrific day.
The blackest day in Americas history maybe?
kenty, 8 members of the 9/11 commision (out of ten) now say they were misled and now no longer believe the evidence that was put before them.
"muslim fanatics murdered nearly 3000 people" did they ? allegedly 18 saudi's and one kuwati hi-jacked 4 american aeroplanes, flew them into the north tower, the south tower, the pentagon and overpowered by passengers crashed another into the ground. they know this because the green saudi passport of the lead hi-jacker, mohammed atta, was found at ground zero !
worst atrocity against america since pearl harbour. correct. read "the grand chessboard" by zibznew brezinski published in 1997 and obviously written before that. all will be revealed about american primacy, a staged event on the scale of PEAL HARBOUR, the war on terror and the invasions and occupations of iraq, afghanistan, uzbekistan, georgia, pakistan and IRAN !
brezinski was an adviser to ronald regan, member of the trilateral commision, member of the council on foreign relations and a member of the bilderberg group. he is now a foreign relations advisor to barry sorrento (aka barrack hussein obama).
building a mosque at ground zero is a diversion and a staged provocation for the halfwits that still believe in the myth of the FEARsome "al quader" led by the unaging cia backed turncoat "osama bin liner"
looks like the man behind the curtain to me but i'm just a con spiracy theorist but i am suprised by the man who saw straight through the climate change conspiracy to bring in a worldwide carbon tax.
even if you and many others on here not only disbelieve what i am saying, but find it too incredible, buy the book and read it. you will find that the events of the past 9 years follow events and policies in that book precisely. how uncanny. the time is now to awaken. regards.
the city, hedge funds and wankers can commit fraud in the hundreds of billions, being too big too fail, they get bailed out by us (the tax payer) and pay themselves millions in bonuses. in return for our support, we get austerity. cuts in benefits, closure of schools, hospitals, fire stations and the sack for hundreds of thousands of local authority workers and still the economy goes down ?
fragile recovery ? green shoots ? some phucker is smokin em ! and meanwhile every phucker gets the sack we are going to have the big society where sacked workers have to volunteer to do what they did before with pay ? cut the lazy phuckers benefits as well but not for the too big to fail, only for the too small to save ! BENEFIT FRAUD ? WHO THE PHUCK BENEFITS ?
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Churchill was deemed fit for a state funeral because the press had never exposed the truth about his less than cuddly nature.....therefore the public where kept in the dark and believed the bullshit about his single-handed victory in WW2 (the sequel).Given a full and free reporting of the facts I doubt he would have received one.
I have real interest in military history inc. WW2 (the sequel)...I do have an interest in the political and social history of this country.....I would suggest that those who express an interest in WW2 (the sequel)read about it and the main players therein
P.S. my dad is too young to have served during the war and has never ever expressed to me an opinion about Churchill

my grandfather who was a miner always shuddered at any mention of his name and would always recant churhills words when he was home secretary during the 1926 general strike.
"starve the women and children and the men will go back to work" churchill obviously knew of marie antoinettes reference to "cake" staggers.
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i hope you have factored in this loss of money in circulation into your business plan.

Business plan? I thought you did not need one if ya was making loads of money?
Business ain't too bad here Guls. lol
i dont need one other than chasing the highest bond/treasury rates but hey, i will probably make the wrong call at the wrong time.
i'm glad your business is liquid and i hope it stays that way for as long as possible. good luck
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How much Kent do you think forcing motorists who, by your own admission, generally refuse to observe speed limits actually costs? How much do you think speed bumps cost? How much do you think cameras cost? How much do you think it costs to keep a copper who could be dealing with all these 'proper' law-breakers some people bang on about parked up in a layby all day in his Volvo T5 or his Suburu Impreza or whatever they run about in these days actually costs?

Cost? It has only now become a problem because central Government have TOLD councils to cut spending. The costs of putting up speed cameras was never an issue until this new Government came into power, as councils have been overspending for years.
Now one of the things they want to cut back on is the cost of one of the things that do save lives. I am sure they could cut back on other things rather than this? Or is it purely and simply because of the lack of money they now make from them?
I am not one of those who as you put it " bang on about parked up in a layby all day in his Volvo T5 or his Suburu Impreza or whatever they run about in these days actually costs ".
I would rather they be seen actively policing, rather than as we have been informed sitting in a police station all day.
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Once you've worked that out, perhaps you'll tell us how it's all to be paid for? Oddly enough. I suspect you'll be among the first to complain when you get a Council Tax bill that actually covers it?

I do not mind my money going to constructive things within the community, what I do object too is the money being wasted on mad practices purely to boost the councils own PR exercises.
The way you and others are going on is that I want all speed cameras taken off the roads, to allow anyone to speed, that is rubbish. I want constructive policing, just as I want constructive speed camera sites, and not placed purely to gain huge ammounts of cash.
If we are honest we all, or most of us recognise the need for strategically placed speed cameras.....that is not on three lane dual carriageways, but in more constructive sites like the places that have been mentioned in this thread.
kenty, you are unhappy that council's overspent ? council's do not overspend and have not. councils are required by law to remain within budget. their budget is set by central government based upon their regions capital reciepts and rate support grant from central government and AUDITED BY CENTRAL GOVERNMENT ! they are required by law to provide certain essential services which, by the fall off in capital reciepts caused by the present deflationary enviroment and cut in central government support, they will not be able to do, regardless of however much waste or misplaced as you would put it, programes they cut !
as a generalisation, capital reciepts nationwide are of the order of 40 to 50% down during this fiscal year. along with cuts from central government support, councils will be making 20 to 30% cuts in manpower across the board next year and probably nearer 90% of capital projects will be shelved.
as major employers in every part of the country including kenty street, i hope you have factored in this loss of money in circulation into your business plan.
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Well at least he has done something worthwhile in his life now.
He is dead so is another, and two very seriously injured and all because some nutter could not control his jealous rages...good riddance to bad rubbish as someone used to say to me when younger.
So Guls as you were the one with the conspiracy theory....did he really shoot himself or was it some banker/copper/or politician who did it? :twisted:
At least no copper this morning is having to hand his gun over, and then go through all that rubbish they put them through when a police officer shoots someone.
Lets hope he has a very private funeral.

kenty, i am very sorry that raoul moat is dead as, if you look at my txts, you will see that i thought that would happen, however he died. dead men dont talk.
i do not presume raoul moat killed anyone or injured anyone. that is trial/inquest by media/internet/police. there were others, remanded in custody, connected with the case. I HAVE PRESUMED NO CONSPIRACY between any parties. i do not know how many shots of firearms took place, i do not know how many injuries he has and i do not know what he died of, yet.
i do know what the media have said has occured from day one and i do know what the police have said from day one.
until an autopsy of the body takes place and an inquest has been heard, i will remain open minded. i hope this process will be afforded to the late mr. moat, his family and friends. it's a shame that it was not available to dr. david kelly and his family but i hope that should you be accused of any crime, that DUE PROCESS be afforded to you.
where the conspiracy theory is here or politicians and bankers having a hand in it goes over my head i'm afraid.
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this guy has been tried and covicted by the press and the total control of information by the police who seemingly are not going to arrest and detain him but execute him. the press claims his mother has said he would be better off dead. i do not beleive any sane mother would say that no matter what their sibling had done.
there is something which we are not being told and i would like to hear the other side of the story before they kill him.
a lie goes round the world before the truth gets its boots on. in a world where weapons of mass DECEPTION predominate over reason and truth, its healthy to be sceptical.

It's one thing being sceptical, quite another to see a conspiricy in every bloody thing immaginable.
Why do you say that the police are going to execute him? Because they have deployed armed officers? FFS what do you expect them to do? dunno
i see no conspiracy. i did not say that the police are going to execute him max but if they can get away with it, they will. dead men dont talk. what i do know and so do you, is that what we are generally first told, is more often than not, crap.
if this fugitive can be apprehended alive with no further deaths or injuries to anyone and he get's the opportunity to have his say in his defence as the accused, i will no longer be sceptical, but informed and knowlegeable. until then, i do not trust the process taking place thus far.
Sorry Gulsonroad, you are talking utter bollox. The man has the option to give himself up and face trial. I'm sure this is the option that the police would prefer as they certainly won't want any more police officers or members of the public harmed but if he doesn't and decides to confront the police then they will have no option but to shoot him. That's not execution in my book.
well max, we shall see and you may be absolutely right, in which case i will admit that you and kenty were right and i was wrong. until then, i remain open minded and unswayed by the presumption of guilt.
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Why do you say that the police are going to execute him? Because they have deployed armed officers? FFS what do you expect them to do?

Conspiracies eh Max? wink
The guy has killed someone, and seriously injured two other people with a deadly firearm.
Eventually he will be cornered and it will be some poor Police officer who may have to make a life or death decision. Guls what would you do in that situation? Offer him a sweet ffs?
I think a shoot to kill policy is the only way to possibly stop another killing.
The guy is a psycho who will always be a danger to society, best to end it now if possible.
IF a Police officer does shoot him dead it will be that officer who will be grilled and then have to live with that event and what he has done, for the rest of his life....what a decision to have to make.
I hope though that when cornered he does the best thing possible, and end his own life without any other further bloodshed.
who has decided, on what irrefutible evidence, judged by his peers, that this particular guy has killed anyone ? kenty, you are coming to a conclusion and deciding whats best for him (suicide) without him having the opportunity to defend himself.
i am not being conspiratorial, merely sceptical until proven. open minded. you above all should understand what i mean when you were able, by reason, to know that global warming, supported by academics and governments around the world was a scam before the "proof" came out at copenhagen.
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this guy has been tried and covicted by the press and the total control of information by the police who seemingly are not going to arrest and detain him but execute him. the press claims his mother has said he would be better off dead. i do not beleive any sane mother would say that no matter what their sibling had done.
there is something which we are not being told and i would like to hear the other side of the story before they kill him.
a lie goes round the world before the truth gets its boots on. in a world where weapons of mass DECEPTION predominate over reason and truth, its healthy to be sceptical.

It's one thing being sceptical, quite another to see a conspiricy in every bloody thing immaginable.
Why do you say that the police are going to execute him? Because they have deployed armed officers? FFS what do you expect them to do? dunno
i see no conspiracy. i did not say that the police are going to execute him max but if they can get away with it, they will. dead men dont talk. what i do know and so do you, is that what we are generally first told, is more often than not, crap.
if this fugitive can be apprehended alive with no further deaths or injuries to anyone and he get's the opportunity to have his say in his defence as the accused, i will no longer be sceptical, but informed and knowlegeable. until then, i do not trust the process taking place thus far.
the guildford four, weapons of mass destruction, charles de menzies, climategate, swine flu, green shoots, we are not closing your school etc. i dont believe everything i'm told.
we have gone from, "he is not a threat to the public, only to the police" to "mum said he would be beter off dead" and now "he is now a threat to the public"
we do not know what he has or has not done. we only know what the police have told the press and the press have sensationalised it up to sell print.
he is entitled if possible, to a fair trial by his peers. as are the rest of us.
magna carta 1215 i think
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I don't think many people besides the police think he is still in the area.... if he is going high into the northumbria hills and he knows the place like the back of his hand it is so dense then will virtually impossible to find him....
anyway we got caught up in it on sunday night when our local "social club" was raided as part of the ongoing investigation... hence we had 5 armed vans and helicopters overhead till 2am
anyway the main talk today at our place of work has been following:
a) the head coppers hair, what on earth is she doing to it..
b) what moat has done to setback the rehabilitation of gingers into normal society....
c) how after all this time of saying he wasn't a thread to the public they now tell us he is... wasn't the fact he has already shot 3 people be proof enough????

c) you do not know, as it has not yet been proven, beyond all reasonable doubt, that he has killed anyone ! whatever has happened to habeas corpus ?
this guy has been tried and covicted by the press and the total control of information by the police who seemingly are not going to arrest and detain him but execute him. the press claims his mother has said he would be better off dead. i do not beleive any sane mother would say that no matter what their sibling had done.
there is something which we are not being told and i would like to hear the other side of the story before they kill him.
a lie goes round the world before the truth gets its boots on. in a world where weapons of mass DECEPTION predominate over reason and truth, its healthy to be sceptical.
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Is there not a shortage of qualified teachers?

yes ben, there is not a shortage of qualified teachers. there are too many for the education budget to pay for. as there are too many firemen, too many paramedics, too many doctors, too many nurses, too many home helps, too many on benefits and so on and on and on.
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i'm a member of the human race and i am prejudiced towards people i dont like.
racism is promoted by the ruling elite through their corporate owned and controlled media and levers of state power with lies, distortions and exaggerations, preying on the backwardness and prejudices of the exploited classes as one of the methods to maintain division in their own interests. in my opinion. bit like getting people to believe in gnomes at the bottom of the garden, witch doctors, ju ju men and deity's really, preying on suspicion and backwardness.
if you want to believe it's the black, brown, yellow, big nosed, slitty eyed, catholic, protestant, muslim, bhuddist, non british man's fault for the shit your in, the fucker who got you to believe it is laughing all the way to the bank with an obscene bonus and everyone who believed him is heading for austerity with the rest of us.

Give me a clue - is there ANY subject in a thread that you won't trot the same old stuff out for? Tell you waht - I'll start one on ice-cream flavours and you can tell us how 'some people' are laughing all the way to the bank with their bonuses cos we are stupid enough to eat vanilla. :giggle:
"while rome burns" comes to mind foxy. but keep licking your ice cream, everthing is fine, "green shoots" ice cream, same ole same ole ice cream, coming out of recession ice cream (but the cornet is fragile), how about a "v" shaped ice cream or the in vogue "double dip" ice cream, a no job ice cream and a no school ice cream, a cut in benefits ice cream (just a cornet really) or a "gulson does'nt know what he's talking about on ANY subject and no one should pay any heed to what he's saying because he just keeps trottin out the same old stuff ice cream"
can you get a racist ice cream ?
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You certainly do not like the banks Guls. lol

got nothing against genuine controlled and regulated in the interests of society and legitimate bussiness, BANKS. got everything against total fraud and deception ponzi schemes that implode the world financial system with debt created out of thin air at interest that can never be repaid, that will cause at best penury for us and death, destruction and war for billions on the planet. AND RACISM serves that end !
i'm a member of the human race and i am prejudiced towards people i dont like.
racism is promoted by the ruling elite through their corporate owned and controlled media and levers of state power with lies, distortions and exaggerations, preying on the backwardness and prejudices of the exploited classes as one of the methods to maintain division in their own interests. in my opinion. bit like getting people to believe in gnomes at the bottom of the garden, witch doctors, ju ju men and deity's really, preying on suspicion and backwardness.
if you want to believe it's the black, brown, yellow, big nosed, slitty eyed, catholic, protestant, muslim, bhuddist, non british man's fault for the shit your in, the fucker who got you to believe it is laughing all the way to the bank with an obscene bonus and everyone who believed him is heading for austerity with the rest of us.
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staggs
to your daughter
congrats .commiseration and admiration a job in the teaching industry is never about the money and rarely rewarding so hats off :thumbup:
i hope they give her a brick when she starts her new job wink

I know plenty of teachers who would disagree with that statement. Some rewards are hugely more worthy than merely financial gain.
sorry my point was that teacher`s where in fact not well paid enough
well come september, they are in fact not gonna get well paid enuf more. (those that will have a job)
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My sister is a teacher
fricking easy life wink
well perhaps they should all be sacked and only 50% of them re-employed on longer hours and lower wages then ? that might get the economy back on its feet ? wink wink or have the government thought of that already ? wink wink wink
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This was originally a thread about teachers. Please refrain from making offensive remarks about people. Using derogatory terms for different nationalities is not funny and all posts are covered by the AUP, even those apparently written in a jocular manner.
Thanks.
i am sorry to have offended you nola.
my post is about teachers, schools, colleges, universities and all other manner of educational institutions. if you read all of my posts on this thread, you will know that i am not being funny. if you read my previous posts, some over a year ago, you will find that i have explained in detail that regardless of which political party was elected, that the present austerity measures would be adopted.
you would also find that i am not only not a racist but that i am distinctly anti-racist and anti the mainstream propagandised muslim demonisation that has created an atmosphere of fear towards differing cultures. using derogatory terms for different nationalities in such an obviously backward stupid manner exposes just that. which is my intention.
finally, having initially always responded to threads specifically on subject and whilst probably contravercially (hope thats spelt right) and objectively, there are people on here who constantly and deliberatly divert the discussion away from the issues raised with personal criticism of the individual or the grammatical construction of text. once again nora. sorry. there was no intent to offend anyones culture, colour or credd. quite the contrary.
oh staggers, i forgot.
i just fort, we cud make all them feral yoof join the army and send em off to kill the fussie wussies in afganistanbannanistan ooh is fretinin us wiv suicide terorism bomin an all that, you know, osama bin liner an his crew in ciaqader in them caves in tora bora or is it iran now ? well wicked ay ? or them issy railies and yanks cud attack them rag ed irainins wen the world cup final is on. cool.
that will get the world ecolonomy goin again.
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Of course it never occurred to me it's the bloody foreigners.....how shortsighted of me

yes staggers, its the bloody johnny foriegners faults. could you do me a favour staggers ? if, when i want to post, i send a draft to you first, you check the grammar and punctuation, send it back to me and then i will post it. sorry to bother you with this but i need to satisfy a criticism for criticisms sake egotistical marxist charletan. thanks mate.
You're more than welcome....can't vouch for my punctuation skills though there often seem to be far too many full stops in my pc
wot about this for an idea to solve the world global international financial crisis then staggers, for us brits anyway.
we send all the dirty rotten johnny foreigners ome, sack all incompetent lazy teachers, sack all airline workers, stop payin rates, close down meals on wheels, stop all public bildin projects includin ospitals and schools cos kids dont wanna learn and too many scroungers on the foreigners usin it, stop all benifits and make the lazy bastuds work like wot we do and while we are at it lets have british jobs for british workers in british companies and last of all, blame the fookin next door neighbours for for avin too big a mortgage and owin too much on credit cards !
i fink these measures will revitalise the british economy and make the banks start lendin again to increase the amount and velocity of cash in circulamisation and start the ecolonomy boomin again espeshly in the souf east init !
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Of course it never occurred to me it's the bloody foreigners.....how shortsighted of me

yes staggers, its the bloody johnny foriegners faults. could you do me a favour staggers ? if, when i want to post, i send a draft to you first, you check the grammar and punctuation, send it back to me and then i will post it. sorry to bother you with this but i need to satisfy a criticism for criticisms sake egotistical marxist charletan. thanks mate.
Thats the most sensible thing you have said in months. lol
oh no its not kenty. i neva say anyfin sensible. please dont tell anyone i know that you fink i said anyfin sensible. you will get me a bad name. lol