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31 Aug 2005

Quote by Marcuso
Now I'm sure this is something i can do - I think i Have one or two uniforms still here at home, and one or two pics of me in uniform.
So I guess the question is - What would people rather see? Rough and ready Combats ( as seen in my pic left) or full ceremonial ?
Might also require the services of a photographer - most of my current ones look a bit warry, a bit shit, or both. Any offers?
kbuk

As has been said before and will no doubt be said again before the end of this thread

Quote by Marcuso
For anyone that missed what I posted earlier in the thread

Anyone wanting any pics doing just give me a shout and next time I'm passing I'll nip in and do you a few. (Most of you know that I don't travel far though)
Marcuso
xx xx

Just PM me and I'll arrange something.
Marcuso
xx xx
LOL - ta for that Marcuso
Shows how proficient i have become at paying any attention to whats been typed before - NOT
I'll let you know if i need some help - also have to think about lugging kit all over the country!
kbuk

31 Aug 2005

Now I'm sure this is something i can do - I think i Have one or two uniforms still here at home, and one or two pics of me in uniform.
So I guess the question is - What would people rather see? Rough and ready Combats ( as seen in my pic left) or full ceremonial ?
Might also require the services of a photographer - most of my current ones look a bit warry, a bit shit, or both. Any offers?
kbuk

21 Aug 2005

Hiya Debbie
I have been close to death, or in a situation where i thoughht death was never far away, on a number of occasions - I was out in both Gulf wars, and that experience alone has decidedly changed my outlook on life. to top it all off i've lost both parents in the past three years, and been diagnosed with Hodgkins. | guess on the whole - i'm more of the opinion that life is too short, and i'm going to do as much of the stuff i want to do now, whilst i have both the funds, the time, and the energy. People from the site who know me well enough will probably be able to testify to the change in me over the past year. The flip side to this is that i am much less tolerant for that which i consider to be wasting my time.
kbuk

18 Aug 2005

Quote by fembernie
Helen - I would like to pop along, but it depends on where the station is etc, and the times of trains back into Cental London. Can you let me know what station it is near and I will be able to see what I can sort out. (Unless any kind soul is passing close to the London Eye and could drop me home)
Thanks xxxx

Bernie hon
If it's train times your worrying about, and if Helen puts me on the list for this - but i'll be driving and not drinking - so if you need a lift home - just shout - you've met me now - so you know i'm relatively sane!
anyway - drop me a PM if I can be of any assistance
xxxx
kbuk

15 Aug 2005

tatty
a certain mate of yours, who starts night shift tommorrow, and therefore has to stay up all night, and has told you more than once if you want to talk - then you know where he is, has a free slot in his msn diary for the rest of the night ( well until about seven)
so you know where my msn is - use it if you want!
kbuk
get in contact with me on msn if you need a clue who it is!

15 Aug 2005

Quote by Wishmaster
Kbuk.................Who's he

!

Fekked if I know - i've seen him at munches - but the fat bastard says nothing!
Don't they make t-shirts with swear words spelled incorrectly???
I've no idea - but should they ever become available - i'll be sure to buy one or two!

15 Aug 2005

Quote by PeBbLeSDeMoN
Kbuk.................Who's he

!

Fekked if I know - i've seen him at munches - but the fat bastard says nothing!

15 Aug 2005

Mike
I've got to agree with wishy here. I never ever go to munches with any other expectation - than to have a good time, a few drinks in pleasant company, and maybe make a few new friends. I suppose like yourself - i'm equally shy initially when meeting new people, but over time, as i become more familiar with people, you'll find i tend to come out of my shell.
If you were to mention my name to most people on here - they'd say one of two things! "who is he" or "he's that quiet bloke who sits at the back and says nothing", but equally, there are others who'd say " the blokes a gob shite, and you can't shut him up"
I'm sure there have been plenty of occasions at munches, where signals are being sent out, but i miss them each and every time. But since thats never the reason i am there, and my expectations are zero - i'm never dis-appointed.
Just chill out, don't try so hard to be everything to everyone, and just try be yourself. At the end of the day - thats what people will pick up on.
Like i say - just my own personal opinion - not that it counts for anything
kbuk

27 Jul 2005

Quote by Libra+Love
My son and I just looked at that site together Postie.
His words not mine "They look like holiday snaps"
Thing is, that's what i thought too. He should label that album "These are the days that will fuck with your mind".
How can you holiday at war when the very people you've come to defend are not just struggling to live from day to day, but living in fear confusion, total disruption and muh more?

BIG FUCKING HERO!!!!
You took some beautiful pics of the country you desecrated. But will you be showing your comic book labelled piccies to your grand kids one day?

AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHH!!!!
DIRTY FUCKING SWINE!!!!!!!!

Libra
I Can't help but take you up on this point. As you may or may not have noticed by my avatar, but i was out in the gulf both times. What you may or may not also know, is that ( and excuse my french here please) war is a fucking evil, nasty business - it's about as gutteral as you can imagine. Of course, not having been there, I doubt you truly would! I have news for you - imagine being thrown into that situation, where at a basic level it's all about survival. Let me tell you, it fucks with your head a wee little bit. Human nature dictates that human beings record and catalogues thing, and sometimes thats all you can do in the situation. Trust me It's an outlet. Were it not for photographs, i'd sometimes wake up and wonder if it was all a dream! you witness shit you shouldn't ever have to consider in your worst dreams. I've taken the kind of photos you hold in such disgust, and i can tell you - it's something you only do once - it's emotional immaturity. Were you to see pictures from the first gulf war, alongside those i took during the second, you'd learn what i'm talking about - i've finally emotionally matured!
My point is - we don't do it because we enjoy it, we don't do it because we want to be there, we don't do it to rub peoples noses in ti - we do it because we don't know what else to do, we do it because we want to remember it.
I apologise for the long post -and if i maybe have hi-jacked it - i just couldn't help myself
kbuk

21 Jul 2005

Quote by Aldeway
So what constitutes a decent post ???? and in who's opinion ????
I thought the point of the cafe was to allow people the opportunity to say what they wanted to say .................. the fact that you dont want to hear it .............. or dont want to comment on it ............. doesn't make it crap ............ it just makes it irrelevant to you !!
Everyone on here is entitled to say what they want .............. if we were all the same wouldnt the world be a boring place ???
Your humour might not be mine........... and mine might not be yours ................. but does that mean that my humour has no place on here and yours does ????
I enjoy my time on this site coz of the diversity of the people on here..................... and that includes the silly, boring,not my taste threads !!!
Getting off the soap box now and going to hide in a dark dark corner !!!! lol

What she said. For all us happy campers, if the thread is shite then don't read it end to end and then moan about it. You have a choice.
STEP AWAY FROM THE DROSS! rolleyes

rolleyes

Don't need anyone to make up my mind for me on what i do or don't want to read. Thank you so very kindly.
For the mods, if you don't like reading all the crap guess you have 3 options...
1. resign your mod status (no conscription in this army eh Sarge?)
2. invent a variable and dynamic web based thread filter which highlights only those questionable words in posts that mean you NEED to take a look. Patent the idea, make a killing and increase the number of people who want to shag you exponentially.
3. Post a thread saying you are gonna cut the crap threads. Ooops already been done
....switches tongue from one cheek to other, steps into his flame proof boxers and waits ...
I bow down before you too!
i'm in so much shit now! lol
bolt

bolt

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16 Jul 2005

Well Since it looks like it's gonna be another essex mafi re-union - i suppose i'd best put my name down ( that is of course if i'm invited)

Quote by blonde
Tatty,
I promise I will try to keep him away from the Vodka Jelly this time too !!!
And........... should I cook something for all of us ?????

OOOOOH OOOOH OOOOH - blonde - Yes please cock something - Can you do us one of your famous Pizza's with the plastic mozzarella?
:giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
kbuk

13 Jul 2005

I found these on the the FAA site in the us - i guess it helps with the requirements - good to see it's also officially sanctioned and documented!
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
Federal Aviation Administration
14 CFR Part 61
(Docket No. 75487345, Notice No. )
Regulation of "Mile High Club" Operations
ACTION: Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM)
SUMMARY: This notice proposes to require additional qualifications and testing before a certificated pilot may engage or continue to engage in "Mile High Club" Operations (MHCO) while also exercising the privileges of a pilot certificate.
DATES: Comments should be received before December 31, 1999.
ADDRESSES: Comments may be mailed or delivered in sextuplicate to: Federal Aviation Administration, Office of Chief Counsel, Attention: Rules Docket (AGC-204), Docket No. 75487345, 800 Independence Avenue SW, Washington DC 20591. Comments may be examined in the Rules Docket weekdays, except Federal holidays, between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION
Need for Rulemaking:
Under the provisions of the East Chitlin Switch, Kansas, Wheat Silo Subsidy Act (P.L. 100-872398-A), Congress has mandated the FAA to regulate the activities of the formerly unregulated "Mile High Club" (MHC). Under present rules, anything accomplished at an altitude of one statute mile (5,280 feet) above ground level (AGL), regardless of the degree of difficulty or the level of expertise demanded, earns a certificate good for membership in the "Mile High Club."
Through a procedure of self-regulation, the organization has set forth requirements that activities take place at an altitude of at least 5,280 feet above ground level to prevent Denver pilots from messing around on the ramp. Although the organization has adopted rigid admission requirements for its pilot members, a recent National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) report disclosed an accident in a light training aircraft (LTA) caused by pilot error in the form of disorientation of a student pilot
1. The authority citation for Part 61 continues to read as follows:
Authority: Secs. 313(a), 314, 601, 602, Federal Aviation Act of 1958, 49 U.S.C. 1354(a), 1355, 1421, 1422; sec. 6(c), Department of Transportation Act, 49 U.S.S. 1655(2), unless otherwise noted.
2. Section 61 would be amended by adding the following:

An applicant for a Mile High Club Operations (MHCO) rating on a pilot certificate must meet the following minimum qualifications:
(a) The applicant must have reached his/her sixteenth birthday..
(b) The applicant must present a high school diploma or equivalent indicating a grade of failing or better, or a notarized statement proving the applicant has compromised at least one substitute teacher.

An applicant for an MHCO rating must pass a written examination on the following applicable aviation subjects:
(a) Care, operation, a periodic maintenance of articulating seats in certificated U.S. civil aircraft.
(b) Basic anatomy and other considerations in selecting a co-pilot.
(c) Dangers associated with the destruction of aircraft panel instruments by bare feet.

An applicant for an MHCO rating will be tested on the following maneuvers:
(a) Takeoffs. Applicant will prepare the co-pilot for MHCO activities.
(b) Stalls. Applicant will demonstrate any acceptable and workable method of delay maneuvering to avoid premature results.
(c) Approaches. Applicant will demonstrate at least six (6) precision or three (3) non-precision approaches to a co-pilot who does not suspect the purpose of the flight.
(d) Soft Field Landings. Applicant will show proficiency in selecting procedures to be utilized under soft conditions.
(e) Short Field Landings. Applicant will show proficiency in utilizing the proper procedures under short conditions.
(f) Forced Landings. Applicant will will accomplish the minimum MHCO activities despite co-pilot's objections.
(g) On-pylon Eights. Applicant will select two prominent landmarks and maneuver between them. If the co-pilot is not endowed with sufficiently prominent landmarks, the activity may be performed in a light simulator approved by the Administrator.
(h) In-flight Emergencies. Applicant will conduct a suitable approach with the zipper jammed in the "up" position and will demonstrate the smooth emergency extension of gear before contact.
(i) Holding Patterns. The Applicant will show proficiency in covering all points of interest with only two hands.
(j) Radio Navigation. Applicant will insert the radial into the omnibearing selector and achieve station passage before the "off" flag appears.
(k) Back Course Approach. Not an approved procedure.
(l) Diverting to an Alternate. Applicant will make an approach to a passenger when it becomes obvious that the original destination has gone below minimums because of a cold front.
(m) Maneuvering with an Inoperative Engine. Self explanatory.
(n) Weather Recognition. Applicant will readily identify cold fronts and warm fronts with the cockpit lights inoperative.
(o) Lost Communications Procedures. Applicant will show proficiency in blocking the co-pilot's voice channel using a broad-band antenna with great frequency.
61.3 03 Proficiency Review
(a) No person may conduct MHCO activities unless, within the preceding 24 months, that person has:
1. Accomplished a proficiency review given to him, in an aircraft for which the person is rated, by an appropriately certificated flight instructor or other person designated by the Administrator who possesses a valid MHCO Inspection Authorization.
2. Had his/her log book endorsed by the person conducting the review certifying that the person has satisfactorily accomplished all the required activities of the review.
3. However, a person who has, within the preceding 24 months, satisfactorily completed an MHCO proficiency check conducted by the FAA or otherwise been satisfactorily screwed by the FAA need not accomplish the flight review required by this section.
General Experience
No person may engage in MHCO activities as pilot-in-command of an aircraft carrying passengers, nor of an aircraft certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember unless within the preceding 90 days that person has satisfactorily carried out MHCO activities and has made suitable log book entries attesting the fact. This requirement does not apply to persons holding an airline transport pilot certificate or to activities conducted while operating under part 135 of this chapter.
61.3 05 Instrument Experience
No person may engage in MHCO activities unless, during the preceding 6 months, that person has conducted MHCO operations in the immediate vicinity of cold fronts and successfully logged at least 6 hours under actual or simulated IFR conditions which involved at least six approaches.
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kbuk

13 Jul 2005

Quote by PeBbLeSDeMoN
So deep they come out of my ears???? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Oi!!!
thats cotton buds your referring to!

13 Jul 2005

Quote by PeBbLeSDeMoN
Have you seen the size of the fekkin toilets on those blankets arent much help either for a quick fumble!!!!!!!

and they'd tend to keep the person in the next seat awake too! lol

lol

Depends on the size of their.................
Earplugs bolt

bolt

I Keep telling you pebbs - it's not how big they are - it's how deep they go!

13 Jul 2005

Quote by PeBbLeSDeMoN
Have you seen the size of the fekkin toilets on those blankets arent much help either for a quick fumble!!!!!!!

and they'd tend to keep the person in the next seat awake too! lol

lol

13 Jul 2005

Quote by tattyxpx
I really am struggling here to think:

welcome to an everyday state for me!
kbuk

11 Jul 2005

Boi
If you find yourself needing to chat to anyone about what you are going through - feel free to PM me anytime you like - I went through similar years ago during my military career, and the one thing i learnt was if you bottle it up, and think you are coping, with no source to voice your thoughts and feelings - then PTSD may just be around the corner for you! Personally speaking - if i Knew back then, what i know now - i'd take the talking opportunity over the other - it really began to F**k my mind and life up!
anyway - as i say - if you need to talk, about ANYTHING, at ANYTIME - no matter how stupid or irrelevant it might seem to you. = just hit that PM button!
Kevin

11 Jul 2005

A Loadof great tunes listed so far!
my own personal shiver tracks
The Ballad of Bill Hubbard - Roger Waters - THE most haunting guitar i have EVER heard, and for those who manage to listen to lyrics - there is an equalling haunting story being told. This one is very close to my heart!
Forbidden Colours - David Sylvian/ Ruichi Sakamoto - What can i say - another one that throws my spine into a series of mini spasms
Theme from Harrys Game - Clannad - No explanation needed
Murons Burial - Braveheart soundtrack
I could go on and on, and on - who knows - I might well do
kev
Off to revisit his mp3's

27 Jun 2005

House detroyed as requested Little Brother.
I think we may have overdone it a little with the P4 explosive - But on the other hand - the grey smoky cloud does look rather appealing and adds a certain je ne sais quoi.
on a side note - you could have warned me we had live plants in the house - it did shock me somewhat to see a screaming, burning bush advancing across the garden at a rapid rate of knots.
thanks to mids man and mike c for their helping in placing the explosives, and detonating them in a totally un-controlled way. And thanks to little brother for pandering to my armageddon/ pyro fantasies!
lol
kbuk

27 Jun 2005

Quote by kazswallows
well its the cop for me, all offers for help with the truncheon and cuffs greatly appreciated. roll on september know just have to find an outfit for the 'other munch'

I may be able to assist kaz!
gotta agree - the female cop outfit will suit you!
kbuk - off hoping to get nicked!

27 Jun 2005

Quote by babe1
Been and got my water gun for the munch so beware folks hehehhe :mrgreen: :lol: :wink: :wink:
Ask the Landlord can we have the heating on the fire escape this time pmsl. So many hot peeps in 1 place lol. Will need a gun to cool off with lol
Hugs
Babe1
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Oh Dear - looks like me and demon have started something of a trend here - I think i now need to seriously think of upgrading my weapon now it looks like everyones going tooled up

23 Jun 2005

Can I please be put on the reserve list for this sarah? I'm gonna do my damndest to get some time off come hell or high water!
ta muchly - kbuk

23 Jun 2005

Oooooooh - Please put me down for this one
Excuse the pun - but if theres gonna be water pistols - then i have to be there to support my partner in crime Demon!
kbuk

14 Jun 2005

You'll know me normally as a man of few words so I apologise in advance for the length of this post - This rant was written before the jury began deliberation. Does the verdict change anything written here? Nope.
*
I was born in the seventies, and I like to say I really lived in the eighties. Needless to say, I was exposed to the gloved one pretty early on, and like everyone in the world it seemed, I was amazed at the man. No, I don't mind admitting that a pimply, sickly, little kid from West London, was a Michael Jackson fan. Seems like a better question was who wasn't?
The changes.
So after MJ had become a fixture in our collective pop culture did we start to see the changes. Sure, musicians are eccentric by nature. Pushing that particular -envelope seemed part of the job. But MJ, well let's just say he was pushing alot harder. When news about Neverland hit the press, we all thought pretty much the same thing. "Must be nice to have that much money to throw around." Often times we said this while looking at our Wageslip, which was at least twice as small as we thought it should be. Then the tabloids focused on MJ like no one else. It seemed like the man couldn't have a bowel movement without the press picking him apart for how, why and when. So in that respect alot of us thought "If I were in his shoes I'd act weird, too."
Then... it started getting beyond weird. The skin, for one thing. I have a unique perspective. When I was in Primary Schooll I had a classmate named Tina Buchannon. She was a black girl, and she was one of those kids who made friends out of everybody. I loved hanging around with her. Her mother, on the other hand, scared the living hell out of me. She had that skin disease, the one where her skin was colored with random splotches of white. Something about the pattern of those blotches of color in her skin made her face seem to come alive when she talked. Even the smallest word or motion and she seemed to be making horrific faces. So when MJ suddenly appeared chalk white, and a touch thinner to boot, I thought "Ok, I can see why" and quickly forgot about it.
The money.
Ok, let's just put this out front. If you didn't know Michael Jackson was obscenely rich in his prime, well you were in the dark. And as his insane spending begin to reach its zenith, I think even MJ himself was convinced he was obscenely rich. Too rich to ever go broke, it seems. Buying things that were always thought to be above purchase became the norm for the ol' gloved one. Right around this time did small hints and allegations of financial woes began to surface for MJ. I'm pretty certain most of us thought the same thing. "He's got the money." Now in retrospect, a five year old can see how MJ was spending money faster than he was making it. You doubt it? Look at his global record sales from fifteen years ago, then look at them today. Hell, you can look on Ebay and see how he has devalued.
The habits.
I'm not going to pretend about this for a minute, dammit the man is weird. Beyond normal "I want to be left alone" weird. If I were a young man in the center of his universe, with all his resources and notoriety, I would be absolutely smothering in pussy. After the novelty wore off I would no doubt see the light of day and hopefully come back to reality. Reality being a little more caution and some conservation. But MJ.... well he was petting Bubbles the chimp and playing with his own little zoo of exotic animals. So he let kids - sick kids foremost - come to his personal Shangri-la for free. That is great and very kind of the man. It was and still is a very generous gesture. But..... after we hear he has children sleep in his bed, well that whole generous and kind shit starts to look like "Hey kid I'll give you a piece of candy if you'll sit on my lap." Can we fairly say that was his motive? Who knows?
I don't think he had his little three ring circus built for the specific purpose of grooming child victims, not for a minute. What I do believe is that MJ is a man who has always been and still is CHANGING and if the desire to be with a child in such a way developed, he had the perfect setup to indulge himself. Putting myself in the man's shoes, I bet I would be insanely cautious about everything. Imagine those crazy ass - and yes I did say CRAZY - fans of his, everywhere he goes. It seems that some of the habits he developed because of his crazy followers could be used as a disguise for other things. We see a brief clip of MJ ducking behind a door - well hell, we all think "Of course, it's Michael Jackson, he has to run and hide for some privacy." Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he has played that card for all it's worth, and some very disturbing habits of MJ have started to appear obvious to us.
The fans.
I'll get no less than a thousand hate mails for this next paragraph alone. Oh well, HIT ME. Most Michael Jackson fans are regular people. Some of his devout fans are normal people as well. Many of them are people who contribute positively to our society. But.. as for the ones who follow him like he's some kind of God come to earth, YOU PEOPLE ARE SAD, PATHETIC AND TO BE PITIED. Furthermore, I want MJ's fanatic fans to think about this, the people in the jury are every day people like ALL OF US. They have families, lives, friends and people they love waiting for them when this trial is over. In the mean time YOU ARE MAKING THEIR LIFE HELL with your behavior. If you believe MJ is innocent, then stay your crazy asses away from the court house and let the judge and jury do their jobs. Quit complicating the procedure. Don't you think when the jury gets sick of your antics they are going to be angry at MJ for it? After all it's his name you are screaming. It's him you all seem to worship. And call it what you want, it's worship. Maybe instead of showing up at the court house hours before the start of the trial each day, you should go out and try to GET A FUCKING LIFE. If it's that hard for you, let me know. I'll burn you a few of my Prince cd's. Prince is eccentric too, but at least he can play any musical instrument like a madman, and oh, he likes PUSSY.
( Did I seem a touch angry about that? Yep, you're right. I've lived through the insane crowd scenario first hand. And believe me, people suffer for the actions of fanatics. )
The families of the children.
I agree with most of you when I think "What the hell were those parents thinking, letting their child spend the night with an eccentric, rich weirdo behind locked doors and barred gates in the first place?" I agree that those thoughts are at the front of all our minds. It also led me to a sort of epiphany. It really made me mad, it did. I have seen cancer first hand. It's a fucking green eyed monster. It's a harsh, hungry snake mean son of a bitch and when you think it's going to relent, it comes back three times as strong. So I have also been through the whole long hospital ordeals so many of us have. You know what I mean. Up the lifts, down them again, over to this wing, wait in this room, stand in that line, wait on the phone, fill in this form, wait in another line for whatever else, spend days on end waiting for.... folks it just goes on and on. So my point? After a while it does certainly make things feel hopeless.
Enter stage right.......... a man with endless finances who has taken an interest in your dying child's welfare. I can see how a parent who was distraught with fear and hurt would be blinded to the obvious by even the smallest sign of, you got it, HOPE. And that is why it makes me so damned mad. Am I excusing it? Why hell no. I still think it's foolish and odd as hell, but I can certainly see why someone clinging onto no hope at all is suddenly willing to let things like that happen. When you are faced with losing a loved one, a child no less, you're a hell of alot more open to suggestion. Desperation is, in its own way, just as mean a son of a bitchr as cancer. It can certainly force your hand.
I don't think it's right for the parents to let their children spend a single minute alone with MJ, but knowing how it feels to watch them slowly die, and believing the man holding their hand is the only one who can help, well I guess I can see why they would make such a terrible and obvious mistake.
The worship.
It's clear as a crystal bell to me. MJ wants to be worshiped. He hopes the crowd of fans never goes away. Reality check Mr. Happy Pants, they are dwindling. And quickly, too. The ones that are left, well dammit man just look at them. More hate mail will come from this, but man oh man are they a poor fucking crowd or what? I still consider myself a fan of his music, but I won't chase his limo down the block screaming and tearing my shirt off. Maybe Weight Watchers could cop a deal with his fan club, run that limo around the block three times in a row, trim some of that fatl off his psycho fans.
The music.
I admit it, I hear one of his older songs on the radio every now and then and I crank that shit right up. He has a few songs I think will always be classics, even if he were to rise to be the next Hitler. Why the Hitler reference? Well think of this, is either one more well known than the other?? So I like some of his music and sing along. I draw the line there, and I can not identify with someone who does not. Let's say you are a singer, composer, dancer, etc etc. I can appreciate you having a deeper appreciation for the man than I do. But give me one good reason to take it beyond that?
The race card.
This just baffles me. In the eighties Michael Jackson single handedly knocked down racial barriers with his (then) squeaky clean image and snappy dance moves. He has sold just as many albums to white people as to any other demographic. Then, years later he sues Sony music for... you guessed it. Discrimination. Please, I mean really. I honestly thought he was above that. MJ got filthy rich standing on the shoulders of the entire world and America, black and white. ( I bought the album Dangerous just because of a sound byte on the song Jam, a really cool glass breaking sound - so there, I admit I helped pay for one of the doorknobs somewhere in Neverland. I also bought the Smooth Criminal single. Annie are you ok, are you ok Annie?!? )
The cohorts.
Ok, so you're filthy steenking rich. You need a lot of people to help you keep your affairs in order. That makes sense. So let's do this, a simple scientific experiment. Take a picture of each of MJ's close associates, aides, whatever the hell you call them. Put the pictures side by side and show them to any person over the age of eighteen. Anyone, regardless of age, color, ethnicity, etc. Nine out of ten will most likely say the same thing you and I did. Looks like a bunch of fucking thugs to me. Shifty looking, shady characters they are.
The truth.
I honestly, honestly hope MJ is innocent. If it's all an ugly lie then he should be vindicated. But what a lot of his fans and followers haven't taken into consideration is this; Most people who believe MJ is guilty didn't come to the conclusion immediately. We've seen things over the years that make us ask questions, that raise concerns, and over time we've felt growing doubts about the man. In time a picture is painted with words, actions and images. If the man were proved innocent beyond a shadow of a doubt tomorrow, how many of us would be somewhat relieved.....but still think "Damn he's just plain weird"? So the doubt is most certainly justified.
The kid.
What if everything stopped suddenly? The trial, the media coverage, the insane fanfare. What happens to the kid? Will his treatment continue? Will he be faced with another tumor? Why hasn't anyone in the ever present media mentioned his best/worst case scenario? Of course, there will be a few belly crawling scum bags who will eventually point the finger at the kid himself. Put yourself in his shoes. What is his best hope for day to day life? I would say at this point, a shit load of confusion, at best. I hope that he can scour a little hope out of all of this, and maybe some vindication.
The mother.
I'll make this perfectly clear. I feel the kid's mother is trying her best to get into MJ's pockets. Is she trying to take advantage of MJ in order to get a fat cheque? I think so. BUT... I also feel that MJ himself took advantage of the opportunity to indulge himself. He felt that by using his resources - that being money, people, and more money - he could quell any situation that might occur. I strongly believe that if MJ is convicted, child welfare services should conduct an equal investigation into the mother's conduct as well. I feel there have been too many strange incidents and too many odd occurrences surrounding MJ and children for the issue to be ignored. What if the court determined he was innocent, but afterward he continued sleeping with young boys? I know how that would make me feel, how about you? Furthermore, name one other celebrity who could do such a thing and effectively pass it off as harmless?
MJ's family.
When someone close to us is accused, we want to believe in them. We want to trust them. So for MJ's family, well I truly feel for them. I think the entire Jackson family is living proof that enough money and attention can drive anyone just plain crazy.
After the trial.
Face it, most of The World is going to be sick and tired of the trial way before it's over with. If he's found innocent, then by all means let the man live his life. Just one condition... could he do it else where? I mean, damn. I'm sick of hearing his name. Give Neverland to the American Cancer Society and let his henchmen run the Ferris wheel for half of what he was paying them to kiss his arse. Move to some obscure country and be at peace with your bad self. And if he's guilty, then he faces what any of us would. Let's hope. After seeing Scott Peterson convicted, some of my lost faith in the system was restored. Let's just see what happens.
In closing.
That's my Ten Pence worth. Some of you agree, some of you hate me. I have given some of you what you wanted to hear, and others, well I've pissed you off. Either way, at the very least I've given you what I feel is the TRUTH. Why are you reading my ten pences worth and I'm not reading yours? Well because I took time to share mine, that's why. And I encourage you to do the same.
Now beat it.
Laughing insanely

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kbuk

12 Jun 2005

US Marines you say?
Wow - thats some achievement - I'm surprised they managed to find the house, or make it in without shooting any of themselves, or the housemates dead lol
They have a history of doing that lol

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10 Jun 2005

Between the Sheets - The Isley Brothers - For ockysweeties! lol

10 Jun 2005

OK Tune - I think by now we know that you have an intense dis like for this thread - the whole idea is badly thought out and "clicky"
Have you ever stopped to consider that what you are effectively doing is the equvalent of walking into someones front room, or the cinema - and saying to them "what you are watching is shit, and you are an idiot for enjoying it"
I'm Sorry you feel left out - To the extent you need to slag the idea off., and get some attention.
As mentoined before - If you don't like the thread - then no one is forcing you to read or post - i'm sure there has to be one thread on here that meets with your obviously high standards!
Enjoy
kbuk

8 Jun 2005

Haven't laughed so much in years - Chill out Tune. After all, as others have mentioned - if you don't like it, find it divisive, and peurile - then quite simply pass it by, move onto something you might enjoy, and leave us i'll advised simpletons to ours!
Makes youwonder how such a badly thought out and stupid little piece of fun makes a 30 page thread in a little over 2 weeks. Someones gotta be finding it even a little bit fun, and remember some of us readers are not necesarily responders!
have a nice day!
kbuk

8 Jun 2005

Quote by Shikukai
What constitutes a boy racer??? Is there an age range?

Typically they are neanderthal morons, who are bedecked in the latest fashions designed by burberry, blingged up to the max. they are almost totally deaf, due mainly to playing "bangin choons" that consist of nothing but a ear bleeding bass line with the occasional electronic fart, at a volume that most commercial ariliners find hard to beat. Their cars can be anything that can be afforded for approixmately Â£200 ( preferably in primer grey) to which they then waste untold thousands attaching various oversized, poorly fitting, obscene bodykits, which they often fail to paint.
Once they have the obligatory penis extension - they then either, crawl around at ten miles an hour so all their mates can be "impressed" at their lack of taste or colour co-ordination, or they tear up and down at rediculous speeds, totally ignorant to the fact that they only passed their driving test a few weeks ago and have no idea whatsoever how to control any car - chances are you'll be lucky if they have any insurance should one of these morons hit you ( and they will one day - trust me!)
They'll also try and burn you at the lights even if your car is more powerful. Finally, if they lack the requesite funds to finance such a dream motor - then they'll more than likely nick someone elses. Thay are, after al, a little bit wooooo, a little bit weeeeeeee, well dodgy, i'llnick anything me!"
ok - rant over - but i think on the whole i'm not far wide of the mark!
kbukl

8 Jun 2005

This has always been somewhat of a bone of contention with me regarding Bi fems - Just who of them are genuinely Bi, and how many of them are Bi cos Hubby fancies the ideas and is maybe press ganging me into it.
IMHO - you can't make anyone "av a go" or get them to become something they aren't already. If this is in fact the case - I'm afraid you are going to have to let her make the choice and come out with that decision.
Just my worthless opinion
kbuk