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Jewlnmart
Over 90 days ago
Bi-curious Female, 54
Straight Male, 55
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Master of Sex
Quote by Lost
Of course the most talented and intellectually gifted in the country need to be nurtured and encouraged to fill those positions in life where it's necessary but also a kick of reality about normal life in normal jobs earning normal wages needs to be instilled in a good proportion of school kids too.
Good secondary educational standards leading to reasonable jobs where the learning is done through the working, with a wage given to for time served and real, on the job, learned skills. This is paramount for most kids in my view. Far less store should be put on the false aspirations wrongly fed to them at the moment. Universities should be for the best of the best and certainly not put into the position of being businesses,
Spot on Lostie. The even bigger joke is that this piece of legislation wont put of those who would be better off going straight into work or vocational training from heading off to university. Only the Russell group universities, plus one or two others will be able to charge the higher rate of fees. The third rate,former polytechnics will still charge the same fees as now to gain a degree in some pointless subject and the students will still leave with a first in Surf Studies and spend their days flipping burgers with no chance of reaching the earnings threshold to pay back their student loan. In the meantime, those with the abitilty and talent to study science, engineering etc. at the top universities will look forward to leaving uni at the age of 22 with debts in excess of £36k just for tuition fees alone. Of course the majority will be in the higher earnings bracket so will pay back their student loans, but they'll also pay more income tax and potentially create jobs and investment.
Master of Sex
Quote by neilinleeds
Also in the news this week, cow farmers and the govt seem to be trying to tell us us that the source of TB in cattle has nowt to do with simple trade and the movement of TB infected cows, and so naturally we must take up all weapons available and do our damnedest to eradicate badgers.Apparently it's cost us all the best part of 9 years and 49 million pounds to come up with that dubious conclusion?
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Bovine TB is an issue that needs to be tackled as it's costing the country a lot more than £49 million. I'm curious as to how we were TB free until four years ago, but have been a closed herd since 2001 (no animals bought in from outside the farm) and have no neighbouring herds of cattle. I may be a thick yokel and I'm sceptical about badger culling being the solution, but how can this be caused by the "trade and movement of TB infected cattle"? I do know that the test is flawed as any inconclusive reacters to the skin test will always test as positive to the blood test, but more often than not show no signs of the disease on post-mortum examination. That's a lot of cows culled unnecessarily (and a lot of unnecessary compensation paid) and a lot of farms placed on movement restrictions that need not have been.
Master of Sex
What a completely shat idea. It's bad enough that a lot of them bulk text their mates if they think somethings going to happen. Having had a dozen other cars pull in to one of our 'quiet little spots' where we usually take people we've met at the main dogging venue, it just kills anything happening. All because the one guy who followed us out of the car park had sent the message to all his mates. Net result nothing happened and he missed out on a show.
Master of Sex
Quote by Bluefish2009
Cows graze, so they should be outdoors, that is just how I like to see them, except for in extreme weather conditions. In some extremes of winter I agree farmers will shelter there cows to prevent damage to there nipples, udders and help maximise milk yields as these can also suffer in cold periods. Possibly some large farms may already shelter there cows for longer winter periods to maximise milk yields.
I am concerned with methods of intensive farming. I know I'm old fashioned, slow to embrace change. But change is not always for the best, or have the animals or our best interest at heart.
I will look forward hearing your views and points when the ales wears off
Blue,
Having work for 2 winters on an out-wintered herd, I can honestly say it has to be the lowest standard of animal welfare and hygeine in dairy farming. The cows are covered in mud and suffer badly from lameness. The grass stops growing, so you still have to feed them and provide them with clean straw to lie on. If you're feeding and bedding anyway it makes sense to do it inside. Seriously in this instance change really is for the best and in the best interests of the animal. There's no sadder sight than a cow stood at a gate on a cold, wet day looking for some shelter.
Master of Sex
Quote by Bluefish2009
Would you like to our milk production from cows who never see daylight?
I do not like this idea at all
That's because you are ill-informed blue. Cows who never see daylight? Utter cobblers in this case, but why let the facts get in the way of a bit of sensationalism.
These cows will live in barns, they will not feel the sun or the rain on there back's.
I, for one, will vote with my money, I shall not buy milk from intensively reared cattle. I shall buy milk from cows who have roamed the Fields during the day and eaten fresh Green grass for that time. :thumbup:
I've been following the plans for this 'super-dairy' for a few months now. From what I understand the cattle will be housed in large opensided buildings with open feeding and loafing areas. Plenty of natural light, fresh air and freedom to move around and exhibit social behaviour. In fact this type of system has been used for decades in this country and the only thing that makes this one any different is the sheer scale of the operation. Working there wouldn't appeal to me as it will be each man doing a specific job, but as someone who has worked as a herdsman for 25 years I'd be curious to see the whole operation in action.
I can't see welfare to be an issue, especially given the scrutiny they'll be subjected to if it ever gets built. They'll also have their own vets available. A common misconception about housed cattle is lameness, but having our herd split into 2 groups- one housed, one summer grazing- there is no real difference in the rate of lameness suffered by either group, but each group has different issues. The housed cattle get digital dermatitis and solar ulcers, the outside group suffer sole punctures and related infection, white line lesions and under-run soles. As with all dairy farms, clean yards and routine foot trimming/foot bathing will minimise the incidence of lameness. With 8,000 cows they'll almost certanly employ a team of trained foot trimmers.
For me the big issue surrounding this plan is the potential environmental impact. That number of cows will produce 350,000 litres+ of slurry each day. I know the plans include a digester power plant to generate electricity from this waste, but it's still a lot to dispose of. I would speculate they're going to grow around 1,500 acres of Maize for forage which brings with it problems with run off. At a local level there's going to be 5 or 6 articulated milk tankers collecting each day and numerous feed deliveries each week too.
Master of Sex
Quote by Bluefish2009
These cows will live in barns, they will not feel the sun or the rain on there back's.
I, for one, will vote with my money, I shall not buy milk from intensively reared cattle. I shall buy milk from cows who have roamed the Fields during the day and eaten fresh Green grass for that time. :thumbup:
Even in Winter Blue? I'll reply more fully in the morning when I'm not so full of ale.
Master of Sex
Quote by Bluefish2009
Would you like to our milk production from cows who never see daylight?
I do not like this idea at all
That's because you are ill-informed blue. Cows who never see daylight? Utter cobblers in this case, but why let the facts get in the way of a bit of sensationalism.
Master of Sex
Quote by Bluefish2009
Agreed, but from what I can tell these will brain wash people into giving up all there worldly goods, family, friends, and previous way of life. Then forbid them from contacting anyone from there previous lives.
Sounds a bit like getting married.
Master of Sex
A big thankyou to the Tweekys......Mr for organising and Mrs for giving a pretty distraction while the Mr waffled on 
. Our second Bristol meet and we had a ball. We chatted to so many and Jewl danced and snogged and exchanged ice with many more.
Special mentions to:
Derek Kelp for the pre-munch munch.
Iainmac and Paulxkaren for allowing us to use their apratment to change into our glad rags.
Meeko and *him* - Is there some sinister cloning experiments going on at SH towers. Given Shi's reaction I never thought I'd ever wish I looked like Meeko too
900rrt - For convincing me that no one would notice my 'dad dancing'.
Anais - Scary? Hell no! But I'd still do as I was told just in case.
Will and Sappho - Good to meet you both
The TCPs - Was nice chatting
Incoming - How many more of your 5-a-day did you have.
And to everyone we haven't mentioned a big thankyou for making it such a great night out and roll on the next one.
Mart
. Our second Bristol meet and we had a ball. We chatted to so many and Jewl danced and snogged and exchanged ice with many more.Special mentions to:
Derek Kelp for the pre-munch munch.
Iainmac and Paulxkaren for allowing us to use their apratment to change into our glad rags.
Meeko and *him* - Is there some sinister cloning experiments going on at SH towers. Given Shi's reaction I never thought I'd ever wish I looked like Meeko too
900rrt - For convincing me that no one would notice my 'dad dancing'.
Anais - Scary? Hell no! But I'd still do as I was told just in case.
Will and Sappho - Good to meet you both
The TCPs - Was nice chatting
Incoming - How many more of your 5-a-day did you have.
And to everyone we haven't mentioned a big thankyou for making it such a great night out and roll on the next one.
Mart
